Elemental Hero vs Elemental DOORS (Miro Fennbirn vs Figure)

[VeneficaAuthor]

Rules

• Speed is equalized
• Both 7-B
• Location is an empty city (no civilians)
• Starting distance is 20 meters
• SBA for anything else

Figure:​

Miro:​

Incon:​

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Figure mainly fights via firing explosions at enemies.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Figure mainly fights via firing explosions at enemies.

What is the method he uses to shoot them?

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

What is the method he uses to shoot them?

They're condensed projectiles that explode on impact.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Miro can use his wind element to fly around to avoid them, or push them back as well.

He will attack with fire blasts, lightning blasts, or a combination of the two. Water is very difficult for him to conjure and wield, so he will only go for water moves if given time. Fire is his easiest element (and the reason why he is called ‘Firestorm’) so he will most likely attack with those moves first

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Miro can use his wind element to fly around to avoid them, or push them back as well.

He would not be able to push them back. They travel too fast.

He will attack with fire blasts, lightning blasts, or a combination of the two. Water is very difficult for him to conjure and wield, so he will only go for water moves if given time. Fire is his easiest element (and the reason why he is called ‘Firestorm’) so he will most likely attack with those moves first

Fire and lightning are nothing new to Figure, having fought and should be superior to Rush and Halt. He'd know if and how he can avoid it. Especially if it's lightning coming from a cloud/the sky.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

He would not be able to push them back. They travel too fast.

Fire and lightning are nothing new to Figure, having fought and should be superior to Rush and Halt. He'd know if and how he can avoid it. Especially if it's lightning coming from a cloud/the sky.

Looking at Rush’s profile, his ability to wield fire is greatly dwarfed by Miro’s, and he should be able to replicate anything Halt can do too

Miro attacks with lightning from his hands and legs, but could also conjure it from the skies too. Same with his fire (and water if he uses it)

Miro’s fire reaches between 400 and 500 degrees Celsius. He can attack with beams and blasts together, and concrete them to be more like beams or waves of pure magma

His ultimate move, “Firestorm”, creates a city-wide inferno which incinerates the entire AoE. That attack should be a reliable wincon; he could use it from deeper into the city where Figure wouldn’t be able to hear him or feel his presence. Considering that he can’t fly, I don’t see a way he would escape

Of course, he will only use this move if Figure is giving him a really hard time beforehand, so before that, he’ll go for something like “Sweltering Searing Stream” to outright disintegrate Figure. That beam has heat more skin to lava (between 1000 and 1400 Celsius at least)

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Looking at Rush’s profile, his ability to wield fire is greatly dwarfed by Miro’s, and he should be able to replicate anything Halt can do too

Miro attacks with lightning from his hands and legs, but could also conjure it from the skies too. Same with his fire (and water if he uses it)

Miro’s fire reaches between 400 and 500 degrees Celsius. He can attack with beams and blasts together, and concrete them to be more like beams or waves of pure magma

His ultimate move, “Firestorm”, creates a city-wide inferno which incinerates the entire AoE. That attack should be a reliable wincon; he could use it from deeper into the city where Figure wouldn’t be able to hear him or feel his presence. Considering that he can’t fly, I don’t see a way he would escape

Of course, he will only use this move if Figure is giving him a really hard time beforehand, so before that, he’ll go for something like “Sweltering Searing Stream” to outright disintegrate Figure. That beam has heat more skin to lava (between 1000 and 1400 Celsius at least)

One problem: Figure is hardly effected by Seek's 5,600 Celsius Sun being a few meters away from him.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

One problem: Figure is hardly effected by Seek's 5,600 Celsius Sun being a few meters away from him.

That doesn’t mean a city vaporizing blast wouldn’t hurt a lot

Even without using fire, Miro could embed him with a few hundred water bullets (hitting like a machine gun and penetrating his skin, and is able to do so easily to other 7-B opponents), he just needs a few seconds to actually conjure up the water. Figure doesn’t have the Regen (upon another glance, no regen) to survive what “Bullet Rain Barrage” would do

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

That doesn’t mean a city vaporizing blast wouldn’t hurt a lot

Even without using fire, Miro could embed him with a few hundred water bullets (hitting like a machine gun and penetrating his skin, and is able to do so easily to other 7-B opponents), he just needs a few seconds to actually conjure up the water. Figure doesn’t have the Regen (upon another glance, no regen) to survive what “Bullet Rain Barrage” would do

Figure does have somewhat superior physicals, but that could do quite a bit of damage. Though, if it takes 'a few seconds' to conjure these bullets, I don't see what's stopping Figure from interrupting him before Miro does so. In fact, Figure has far superior LS and could potentially just pull a Canon Figure and rip off Miro's head.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Figure does have somewhat superior physicals, but that could do quite a bit of damage. Though, if it takes 'a few seconds' to conjure these bullets, I don't see what's stopping Figure from interrupting him before Miro does so. In fact, Figure has far superior LS and could potentially just pull a Canon Figure and rip off Miro's head.

Miro can easily fly much higher than Figure can reach via wind (even if Figure uses his acrobatics to jump the city buildings) and charge his water from the clouds. It would even be more beneficial to do so, considering the water he could gather from said clouds would significantly reduce the amount of time and effort needed for him to wield Bullet Rain Barrage. He’ll have to fly in a little closer to land it more effectively, but still should be well out of his hands reach. Explosions could be a bit of a hinderance but he should still have the advantage there

(btw if Figure can survive Seek’s sun he should have heat resistance added to his profile)

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Miro can easily fly much higher than Figure can reach via wind (even if Figure uses his acrobatics to jump the city buildings) and charge his water from the clouds. It would even be more beneficial to do so, considering the water he could gather from said clouds would significantly reduce the amount of time and effort needed for him to wield Bullet Rain Barrage. He’ll have to fly in a little closer to land it more effectively, but still should be well out of his hands reach. Explosions could be a bit of a hinderance but he should still have the advantage there

Should've mentioned this before, but Figure has dealt with projectiles firing in similar patterns to Miro's supposed Machine Gun-type stuff. In fact, that's like, half of the skills every EDBG character collectively uses.

(btw if Figure can survive Seek’s sun he should have heat resistance added to his profile)

I know, sorry.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Should've mentioned this before, but Figure has dealt with projectiles firing in similar patterns to Miro's supposed Machine Gun-type stuff. In fact, that's like, half of the skills every EDBG character collectively uses.

Miro could alter the trajectories of his bullets by moving his hands around (think like Future Trunks burning attack), and have them fly in spirals, zig zags, and all around to surround him. His water move is able to be “erratic/unpredictable” (as stated on the technique details on his profile)

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Miro can also use one hand to perform the attack (with less bullets/efficiency) while charging more with his other hand to keep the attack going for an extended period of time. He can keep it ‘erratic’ by moving his fingers instead

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Miro could alter the trajectories of his bullets by moving his hands around (think like Future Trunks burning attack), and have them fly in spirals, zig zags, and all around to surround him. His water move is able to be “erratic/unpredictable” (as stated on the technique details on his profile)

How would Miro even know Figure can deal with the attack and attempt to switch it up?

Miro can also use one hand to perform the attack (with less bullets/efficiency) while charging more with his other hand to keep the attack going for an extended period of time. He can keep it ‘erratic’ by moving his fingers instead

Figure could potentially nullify the bullets with his explosions.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

How would Miro even know Figure can deal with the attack and attempt to switch it up?

Miro will just react to the way Figure tries to deal with it. He’s an S Class hero, he knows what he is doing in fights

Figure could potentially nullify the bullets with his explosions.

Do the explosions have any fire to them? Any at all? If so, Miro can just manipulate the fire aspects of the explosions to his own advantage (to negate damage or turn it right back on Figure). Any fire left behind after they are used can be controlled by him too. His natural control over the elements allows him to take control even if enemy moves if they consist of fire, electric, wind, or water powers

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Do the explosions have any fire to them? Any at all? If so, Miro can just manipulate the fire aspects of the explosions to his own advantage (to negate damage or turn it right back on Figure). Any fire left behind after they are used can be controlled by him too. His natural control over the elements allows him to take control even if enemy moves if they consist of fire, electric, wind, or water powers

No, no they don't. Now that I think about it, Figure's basically just Katsuki Bakugo if he was a Demogorgon knockoff.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

No, no they don't. Now that I think about it, Figure's basically just Katsuki Bakugo if he was a Demogorgon knockoff.

Can the explosions survive being whirled up by 250+ mph wind tornados? Or even being intercepted by Miro’s concentrated fire beams?

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Can the explosions survive being whirled up by 250+ mph wind tornados? Or even being intercepted by Miro’s concentrated fire beams?

What do you mean, "whirled up"? I don't think wind (or heck, even fire) can null explosions...

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

What do you mean, "whirled up"? I don't think wind (or heck, even fire) can null explosions...

He’ll trap them in wind fields or just block them with firewalls. He’s known to do the same with lightning/blast attacks from other enemies so he can do it to immaterial moves like explosion attacks

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

What’s to stop Miro from using a tornado under figure and distorting his senses by tossing him like a rag doll for a bit? After that, he’ll be totally wide open for the Bullet Rain Barrage at which point Miro wins

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

What’s to stop Miro from using a tornado under figure and distorting his senses by tossing him like a rag doll for a bit? After that, he’ll be totally wide open for the Bullet Rain Barrage at which point Miro wins

Depends on how big the tornado is, because Figure is a pretty big fella. If it's like a real-world tornado, then yes, he could get tossed around, but Figure has the defenses to take a Bullet Rain Barrage, albeit severely injured. Figure, while being combat-savvy, still has animalistic instincts and receiving critical damage would enrage him more than anything.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Depends on how big the tornado is, because Figure is a pretty big fella. If it's like a real-world tornado, then yes, he could get tossed around, but Figure has the defenses to take a Bullet Rain Barrage, albeit severely injured. Figure, while being combat-savvy, still has animalistic instincts and receiving critical damage would enrage him more than anything.

Miro should be able to wield his wind to create F6 tornadoes (319-379 MPH wind) right under Figure, which should be more than sufficient to launch Figure around since normal real-world tornadoes could work.

As for Figure being enraged, it shouldn't change Miro's approach. Creating a super-powered tornado like the initial one would tire him, but after Figure survives that, he can replicate a similar (less effective) effect by trapping Figure in a smaller wind vortex that bounces him around at specific points to conserve energy while he flies up to the clouds and gathers another Bullet Rain. If Figure is angry enough, I imagine his senses would be clouded and being blind suddenly becomes a massive weakness

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Miro should be able to wield his wind to create F6 tornadoes (319-379 MPH wind) right under Figure, which should be more than sufficient to launch Figure around since normal real-world tornadoes could work.

As for Figure being enraged, it shouldn't change Miro's approach. Creating a super-powered tornado like the initial one would tire him, but after Figure survives that, he can replicate a similar (less effective) effect by trapping Figure in a smaller wind vortex that bounces him around at specific points to conserve energy while he flies up to the clouds and gathers another Bullet Rain. If Figure is angry enough, I imagine his senses would be clouded and being blind suddenly becomes a massive weakness

Canon Figure can literally hear the Player's heartbeat and EDBG Figure should have superior senses to his canon counterpart. But anyways, if Figure isn't able to get close to Miro and his explosions keep getting nulled, I guess Miro takes this.

Miro finds the DOOR to victory FRA

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Miro FRA

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Hold on... Going over Figure's profile again, he has

• Combustion: Figure quickly absorbs all projectiles and uses the damage from those projectiles to create a stronger close-range explosion.

Figure could just absorb Bullet Rain, and all of Miro's other projectiles.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Hold on... Going over Figure's profile again, he has

Figure could just absorb Bullet Rain, and all of Miro's other projectiles.

I think this is Incon then at best, or a Miro win if he kills via wind somehow

Even if he absorbs all projectiles, he can’t hit Miro with anything because he’ll just fly well out of range. It’s says it’s a close range explosion, so nothing he absorbs will hurt Miro. Miro only needs to be close to Figure to land his bullet rain, and if figure absorbs it, Miro won’t get close anymore

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Hold on... Going over Figure's profile again, he has

Figure could just absorb Bullet Rain, and all of Miro's other projectiles.

How does the absorbing work? Miro could potentially find a way around it, depending on whether or not it’s a full-body thing

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

How does the absorbing work? Miro could potentially find a way around it, depending on whether or not it’s a full-body thing

The projectiles disappear and Figure fires the explosion.

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

And yes, it is a full-body thing.

 

[Froggytron]

Hold on... Going over Figure's profile again, he has

"Figure quickly absorbs all projectiles and uses the damage"

It sounds like a power with cooldown, can Figure spam it non-stop to prevent 100% damage from all wind/lighting etc. attacks? Does using Combustion drain more stamina than the other attacks/techniques? That could also matter for the result

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

"Figure quickly absorbs all projectiles and uses the damage"

It sounds like a power with cooldown, can Figure spam it non-stop to prevent 100% damage from all wind/lighting etc. attacks?

True, Miro could just hold off water for bullet rain until the process ends

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

It sounds like a power with cooldown, can Figure spam it non-stop to prevent 100% damage from all wind/lighting etc. attacks? Does using Combustion drain more stamina than the other attacks/techniques? That could also matter for the result

He wouldn't be able to spam it, but he'd only use it when he has to. He also has acrobatics to dodge the other attacks. It would drain the same amount of stamina as any other attack would, and Figure's stamina is Superhuman, so...

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

He wouldn't be able to spam it, but he'd only use it when he has to. He also has acrobatics to dodge the other attacks. It would drain the same amount of stamina as any other attack would, and Figure's stamina is Superhuman, so...

Miro could use the wind and hit him with a minor barrage (which figure absorbs), and then achieve the same result as previously by hitting him with Bullet Rain Barrage after the process to absorb ens. He’ll do so immediately (and after the explosion if necessary, but he could also just curve billets around it), which doesn’t give Figure the time to do it again

Basically the same thing as previously decided but slower and more complicated

 

[Froggytron]

How large is Miro's stamina and willpower? Could he use multiple attacks after each other, multiple times, to eventually take down the Figurine? It sounds kinda demanding

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

How large is Miro's stamina and willpower? Could he use multiple attacks after each other, multiple times, to eventually take down the Figurine? It sounds kinda demanding

Yea he should be able to. He’s had his powers since he was 6 years old, and is 23 in this key so he’s had ample time to gain more stamina and wield them to greater degrees. He can use multiple elements at once as well

Not to mention, he is S Class rank 3. His stamina, skill, power, and experience are all UP THERE

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I’m keeping my vote with Miro based on the above

 

[Froggytron]

Since all turned back in Miro's favor, I think I will vote for Miro FRA, hitting the grace (0:3)

But if Figure still comes up with some arguments, I will listen

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Miro FRA ig