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Definitely. I find it rather silly that it has immunity to the other status effects, but not holy, the status effect that is the worst against it by far.
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Elden Ring Profiles
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Liquid_Bigb0ss
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That was a mistake. It has extreme resistance but not complete immunity. Just enough resistance that you might as well not try, but the reason it was removed from the wiki was because the healing part was a mistake. And apparently it was never replaced with the resistance.
Edit: Though I realized that the absorption value would count as resistance of course, which the wiki says that the elden beast has 80% absorption. Aka it completely negates 80% of all holy damage it takes.
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Liquid_Bigb0ss
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Also all of Godrick’s resistances are all linked to the tree sentinel page and it's resistances on fextralife
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Oh **** my bad
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Now that I think about it, I'm very interested in making a profile for Marika
But do we really need to merge her with Radagon? I know they're technically the "same" character by the end of the game but one of Melina's speeches makes it clear they began as different people and they have some significant differences (nothing for example shows that Radagon can curse people or resurrect them like Marika could and there are even implications Marika is the one who caused them to merge AND forcibly did so as a mean to keep Radagon from interferring with her plans)
But do we really need to merge her with Radagon? I know they're technically the "same" character by the end of the game but one of Melina's speeches makes it clear they began as different people and they have some significant differences (nothing for example shows that Radagon can curse people or resurrect them like Marika could and there are even implications Marika is the one who caused them to merge AND forcibly did so as a mean to keep Radagon from interferring with her plans)
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The implication is rather ready that it's Radahn. He's the only one there of similar size to Morgott, we know the Redmanes attacked the capital before and the narration for the scene mentioned demigods fighting.
But the clear thing is that it's a younger Radahn. We know he gets bigger size wise with age and in the picture he's only Morgott's size. It's unlikely he reached his apex yet when he earned the name Starscourge.
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It was Radahn, clearly, the pic itself is obvious enough and as Qaw pointed out, the lore clearly states he tried to attack Leyndell at the beginning of the Shattering
The issue is about is it worth mentionning this for Morgott when we don't know how strong young Radahn was at the time
The issue is about is it worth mentionning this for Morgott when we don't know how strong young Radahn was at the time
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Marika already has a profile fyi, albeit a terrible one.
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Well, shit
At least, I can help making it better
At least, I can help making it better
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Yes but only as a segment of his AP justification.
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I never said it isn't. I said we don't know it was him for a fact, and that it shouldn't be stated as a fact. With Margit it's easy to tell it was him due to his unique appearance and cane, so we can say for a fact it was him, but we only see armor that looks like Radahn's in the image. It is not impossible it could simply be a high-ranking soldier. Not to mention, I don't know how Radahn could have ever escaped that. Pinned down, no weapons, no allies, surrounded by an army of soldiers. And then you have that this event is never mentioned anywhere in any Elden Ring content, despite it being a pretty big deal, it is explicitly shown in the opening cinematic. Usually things like this have those swords with the carvings engraved on them to tell the story of what happened, but the only one Margit has claims he felled "countless heroes", which if anything could suggest it was just a high-ranking Redmane soldier, which would be fairly consistent for Margit rather than Morgott, but of course this is speculation.
In the end, not saying it isn't Radahn, just that it isn't a certainty. For the justification, I would personally put "Likely defeated a young Radahn".
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Well, he does have gravity magic. Wouldn't be to hard to leverage that as an escape.
I think this is fine.
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Should we talk about the hypothesis of Radagon being actually used by the Beast as a puppet and not being himself in the final fight?
Liquid_Bigb0ss
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Well, it seems pretty probable too me. Could be a reason why elden beast gets merged with radagon and marika.
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Well, when you think about it, his boss fight is pretty weird in that regard
He doesn't say a single thing throughout the entire fight, doesn't even grunt when hit, doesn't bleed and his movements are stiff, almost robotic in nature. He's supposed to be an absolute master of Golden Order Fundamentalism (to the point he personnally created at least one Incantation) and is stated to have mastered Glintstone Sorcery yet doesn't use either of them, instead he uses golden light/energy that don't ressemble any Incantation or any kind of spell since he doesn't use complex, ritualistic gestures but feels more like raw energy overflowing him (to the point he can do things unrelated to fighting moves and still passively release blasts and waves of energy), like if it was animating him.
We also see his body emitting shadows from which the Elden Beast emerges after the boss fight against. Adding to the fact that we know the Beast is the one who tortured and mutilated Marika (and thus Radagon since they share a body) since one of its moves involves crucifying the Tarnished on an Elden Ring arc and then impaling them with an "elden spear" like Marika, the fact that Radagon's body is so broken it's literally empty (as in, there's no organ where they should have been) and is filled with the Elden Ring before the fight and the three golden projectiles he creates looks like the projectiles used by the Beast...
He doesn't say a single thing throughout the entire fight, doesn't even grunt when hit, doesn't bleed and his movements are stiff, almost robotic in nature. He's supposed to be an absolute master of Golden Order Fundamentalism (to the point he personnally created at least one Incantation) and is stated to have mastered Glintstone Sorcery yet doesn't use either of them, instead he uses golden light/energy that don't ressemble any Incantation or any kind of spell since he doesn't use complex, ritualistic gestures but feels more like raw energy overflowing him (to the point he can do things unrelated to fighting moves and still passively release blasts and waves of energy), like if it was animating him.
We also see his body emitting shadows from which the Elden Beast emerges after the boss fight against. Adding to the fact that we know the Beast is the one who tortured and mutilated Marika (and thus Radagon since they share a body) since one of its moves involves crucifying the Tarnished on an Elden Ring arc and then impaling them with an "elden spear" like Marika, the fact that Radagon's body is so broken it's literally empty (as in, there's no organ where they should have been) and is filled with the Elden Ring before the fight and the three golden projectiles he creates looks like the projectiles used by the Beast...
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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Yeah, I think we should just merge Radagon and the Elden Beast's profiles.
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Honestly, the problem is that we aren't sure this is true, it's HEAVILY implied but not outright confirmed. At worst, I suggest to leave them with their own profiles but with a note for both of them about the situation
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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Honestly, the problem I'm seeing is that you can't have a Radagon match without the Elden Beast getting involved.
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I wish we could have seen more of Marika though. The girl's one of the most interesting characters I've seen in recent years and was probably uber powerful, like the second/third strongest being in the game with Endgame Tarnished and the Beast (excluding the Outer Gods of course), I wish we could have seen her fight
XSOULOFCINDERX
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The only thing we know about her power in and of itself is that she supposedly killed the Fire Giant's Fire God or something if I remember correctly.
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The lore says she somehow personnally managed to slain the Fell God (wether this means she killed a proxy like the Beast for the Golden Order or a chosen champion like the Rot has Malenia or the GW has her/Radagon or a literal manifestation of the God himself is unknown) but we know Godfrey was the one leading the genocide and he was the one who killed their leader. At least Marika is above Radagon cause its' clearly stated she's the one true god and her consorts only become gods after marrying her and being gifted with her power
For the record, I recall the lore saying Marika was the one who pulled out Destined Death from the Elden Ring and sealed it, how would that translate as an ability?
For the record, I recall the lore saying Marika was the one who pulled out Destined Death from the Elden Ring and sealed it, how would that translate as an ability?
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I’d leave it but make a sandbox on case this is true
Godfrey still not strong
I’d also argue that’s Sealing and potentially Concept if you take the Destined Death as being the concept directly
Marika is really compelling and I can’t wait to see more of her
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Conceptual Manipulation since she literally removed the Concept of Death from the world.
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Sounds like it, plus Sealing as Hellbeast said
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For the record, I'm still dealing with Morgott, Astel, Ancient Dragonknight Kristoff and Shabriri and I would like to make a Twinsage Sorcerer profile and Preceptor Miriam
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Who?
Dust_Collector
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Bro you never heard of Partcjes is? His questline is one of the best in the game imo.
(Pretty sure he just mistyped Patches or something).
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Clearly I mean Partcjes, the absolutely best Elden Ring character
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Godfrey is said to have beaten the Fire Giants, but nothing is said that he defeated their leader or Fell God. The only one who has such a statement is Marika. All the demigods are also said to be strong because of their connection to Marika and the strongest of them (Malenia and Radahn) have no relation to Godfrey.
Generally speaking Marika > Godfrey. Which is important imo, since Godfrey's grace did not tell him to go to the Erdtree, but to try and kill us first. Meaning that Marika thought he needed the Tarnished power before he entered the tree rather than just his normal strength.
Liquid_Bigb0ss
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Well to be fair, we don’t actually know if Godfrey has a maiden, or if he even needed one. Could of been his grace/marika telling that he needs to get rid of the competition first before going into the tree.
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Godfrey maidenless?
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You might be right. Though we do know that Maiden's can give their person the power to convert runes and being Maidenless is considered against the norm for Tarnished.
Considering Gideon's plan was to stop the player first and then Godfrey, I feel like it was a similar thing here. He needed our power to fight Godfrey like how Godfrey would need our power to fight Radagon/The Elden Beast.
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Godfrey was the first Tarnished and he only became one when he was banished after the war with the Giants (though how much of a true banishment and how much of a commong plot with Marika in their plan to shatter the Ring it was remains unknown, cause yes, he's heavily implied, and outright confirmed in cut dialogues, to have been part of her conspiracy) so he probably didn't have a maiden
Liquid_Bigb0ss
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I think most of the tarnished we see are actually maidenless. Gideon says that new tarnished are pretty much worthless (“I’m sick and tired of these namby-pamby tarnished who think us no more than a shelter from the rain”) and the tarnished we can fight seemingly only have one flask; implying that they do not have the guidance of grace anymore and cannot use a sight of grace because of this. And I think that would also apply that their maidens would abandon them, maybe?
though Godfrey of course has grace, and therefore can use a site of grace, and have access to flasks. But he doesn’t even use not one healing flask in our fight. Which I why I believe it could be that he just doesn’t NEED a maiden (or rather, what Godfrey thinks at least). Godfrey is ridiculously strong already, with almost nothing in the lands between being able to match his power or even come close to it.
He prides himself on this strength, and greatly the values the idea of one’s own strength (“Thy strength befits a crown” n all), so it could be possible that he believes using the power of maidens, runes, and flasks to not be valid when it comes to his own strength and how he sees it… but that’s just my take on it.
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Marika personally houses both the Elden Ring and Radagon post-merger. So either we do a Marika/Radagon profile, we separate them all or we combine them all.
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I'm fine with merging Marika and Radagon but the profile is at risk of being confusing, plus how would we name it? It's not like they have a common name. Separating them can be viable since they have their own accomplishments and we can still put a note at the bottom to explain why we didn't separate them. And in any case, the Elden Beast should have its own separate profile (like I said, we can make a note about the whole Radagon-is-a-puppet theory)
