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[azontr]

 

[Pikaman]

There is no skill metric Pika wtf are you talking about

There should be tbh I’ve asked about it before

I don’t use “peak human skill” to be disingenuous about anything, it’s just a very quick and easy way to say that the God Tiers in WWE are the Skill GOATS of what is in verse a very respectable form of combat that incorporates a large and long list of Martial Arts and improvised techniques

 

[RandomGuy2345]

@Pikaman azontr is just being azontr. We do this all the time to each other lol

Though to elaborate on what Pika said, WWE has skill levels only the strongest of humans can accomplish, and even that might not be enough to topple the GOATS of the WWE such as The Undertaker, Ultimate Warrior, and Hulk Hogan, one of which Jericho has fought on par with.

 

[azontr]

@Pikaman azontr is just being azontr. We do this all the time to each other lol

Though to elaborate on what Pika said, WWE has skill levels only the strongest of humans can accomplish, and even that might not be enough to topple the GOATS of the WWE such as The Undertaker, Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, and many more.

I'm not "just being azontr", I actually disagree with something lol. Surprising. You cannot generalize skill levels as something only the "strongest of humans can accomplish", as that completely varies from verse to verse, and trying to generalize that into a category is not possible.

Like yeah you could say that Jericho is more skilled than Eren in some ways but it isn't possible to generalize Jericho's skill as "peak human" to say that Eren's particular fighting style wouldn't be challenging for Jericho to overcome. You can use other particular feats to say so, of course, but this particular generalization you cannot. I don't think Jericho has ever fought against military-trained opponents, and that means he'd still have trouble dealing with Eren's fighting style, even if he, in general, is the more skilled/experienced opponent due to his wrestling career.

 

[Pikaman]

I'm not "just being azontr", I actually disagree with something lol. Surprising. You cannot generalize skill levels as something only the "strongest of humans can accomplish", as that completely varies from verse to verse, and trying to generalize that into a category is not possible

I think “strongest of humans can accomplish” isn’t great wording, what I’m saying is by “Peak Human” I mean that if you put Chris Jericho in the real world he would be amongst some of the best martial artists known to man.

we can just bring out the massive skill article if you don’t like us trying to condense it

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'm not "just being azontr", I actually disagree with something lol. Surprising. You cannot generalize skill levels as something only the "strongest of humans can accomplish", as that completely varies from verse to verse, and trying to generalize that into a category is not possible.

I was specifically referring to when you told Pika you were just being a ********, You and I are shitheads to each other (for the sake of laughs of course. Don't take this the wrong way everyone), so this was just you being you.

Like yeah you could say that Jericho is more skilled than Eren in some ways but it isn't possible to generalize Jericho's skill as "peak human" to say that Eren's particular fighting style wouldn't be challenging for Jericho to overcome. You can use other particular feats to say so, of course, but this particular generalization you cannot. I don't think Jericho has ever fought against military-trained opponents, and that means he'd still have trouble dealing with Eren's fighting style, even if he, in general, is the more skilled/experienced opponent due to his wrestling career.

That's fair, but Jericho has fought people with many different fighting styles.

we can just bring out the massive skill article if you don’t like us trying to condense it

I think azontr already seen the massive skill article before lol

 

[azontr]

I think “strongest of humans can accomplish” isn’t great wording, what I’m saying is by “Peak Human” I mean that if you put Chris Jericho in the real world he would be amongst some of the best martial artists known to man.

we can just bring out the massive skill article if you don’t like us trying to condense it

That's Random's wording, not mine or yours lol.

And I've read the skill article before. Multiple times, actually. I agree that WWE is skilled. I just don't like this particular generalization your abusing to support that.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

That's Random's wording, not mine or yours lol.

Well actually, it was technically Pika's wording. I just phrased it differently

 

[azontr]

Well actually, it was technically Pika's wording. I just phrased it differently

If your phrasing it differently that's your wording, you absolute imbecile.

 

[Pikaman]

That's Random's wording, not mine or yours lol.

I.. know

And I've read the skill article before. Multiple times, actually. I agree that WWE is skilled. I just don't like this particular generalization your abusing to support that.

It’s not a generalisation, it’s a condensed version of a skill article that anyone who has ever been on a WWE thread has seen before countless times, and are sick of doing so. Apologies if it comes off as misleading, but I don’t really see how misconceptions can come of this way of very briefly addressing Jericho’s skill

 

[RandomGuy2345]

If your phrasing it differently that's your wording, you absolute imbecile.

If you were smart, you'd realize that was joke, you absolute buffoon.

 

[Pikaman]

Well actually, it was technically Pika's wording. I just phrased it differently

Nah I actively disagree with using strength as a metric of skill, there are martial arts white belts with better skill than The Hulk, does not mean he would not obliterate them

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Nah I actively disagree with using strength as a metric of skill

I didn't even use strength and equated it to skill but go off ig lol

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Also, how's Eren dealing with Jericho Social Influencing, Instinctive Reactions, and Immense Pain Tolerance?

 

[azontr]

It’s not a generalisation, it’s a condensed version of a skill article that anyone who has ever been on a WWE thread has seen before countless times, and are sick of doing so. Apologies if it comes off as misleading, but I don’t really see how misconceptions can come of this way of very briefly addressing Jericho’s skill

My brother in christ how is referring to someone's skill as "peak human" not trying to generalize an entire category of skill

Like yeah I get not wanting to post the whole skill garbage thing but it's still sorta misleading no matter how you spin it. In my eyes, at least. If you don't think it's a misleading statement then feel free to keep using it, I don't govern what you do with your life lmao.

Also, how's Eren dealing with Jericho Social Influencing, Instinctive Reactions, and Immense Pain Tolerance?

By banging your mum.

I don't know.

 

[Pikaman]

I didn't even use strength and equated it to skill but go off ig lol

skill levels only the strongest of humans can accomplish

Please, elaborate

 

[azontr]

Please, elaborate

 

[WeeklyBattles]

my god i leave for 5 minutes and theres a whol page to respond to

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Jericho at least has ways of countering Eren's regen.

His finishing move is a KO move, and he can make Eren pass out with a submission maneuver.

Please, elaborate

Terrible wording by me.

What I meant to say was Jericho would be the one of, if not the most skilled humans in the world.

my god i leave for 5 minutes and theres a whol page to respond to

Good luck lol

 

[azontr]

my god i leave for 5 minutes and theres a whol page to respond to

ratioed

 

[Pikaman]

my god i leave for 5 minutes and theres a whol page to respond to

It’s mostly bickering ngl…

 

[azontr]

It’s mostly bickering ngl…

Instigated by yours truly

 

[Pikaman]

and he can make Eren pass out with a submission maneuver.

Is.. forfeiting a thing is vs threads? I’ve never really had to ask until now but what happens if Erebus just… taps out?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It’s mostly bickering ngl…

It's mostly just me and azontr doing what we always do every time we talk to each other (for the most part), while Pika is there playing both sides.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Instigated by yours truly

L

 

[azontr]

Is.. forfeiting a thing is vs threads? I’ve never really had to ask until now but what happens if Erebus just… taps out?

I mean... No? I don't think tapping out has ever been an option unless for some reason the OP sets up the match with custom rules like that.

 

[azontr]

L

W

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Is.. forfeiting a thing is vs threads? I’ve never really had to ask until now but what happens if Erebus just… taps out?

Nope, unless if it's specifically stated in the rules.

Tapping out most likely won't save Eren here.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It’s mostly bickering ngl…

Also, I'm bored asf, as nothing has really happened in the WWE Video Game Profiles thread, so azontr coming here and ******* around like he usually does is a good distraction.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Press 'X' to doubt

Reiner is 185 cm (slightly over 6 ft) and 95 kg (209 lbs), Chris is less than 20 lbs heavier than him and Eren can full on overhead throw Reiner with his reversals as well as copying Annie's fighting style

You're gonna have to elaborate on this. You better not say the same bullshit me and Pika have been hearing for the past few months. I will pull out the bingo card.

What i mean, and i may be mistaken here, is that WWE fights arent meant to go straight for a kill, whereas Eren's training is exactly for that

And on top of that, according to Chris' profile he has a problem with arrogance, which would play heavily in Eren's favor seeing as Chris is half a foot taller and almost 100 lbs heavier, Chris likely wouldnt see a visibly scrawny guy like Eren as a massive threat only for Eren to immediately put him on his head and go for a kill

 

[Pikaman]

What i mean, and i may be mistaken here, is that WWE fights arent meant to go straight for a kill, whereas Eren's training is exactly for that

Yeah this has doomed Jericho in other threads, he is skilled but against opponents with more lethal tactics he can sometimes fall short, which was the reason Agent 47 stomped him (at least I think it was a stomp the thread just kinda died after it was decided 47 beat him conclusively)

 

[Phoenks]

Am I mistaken or you guys now allowing Erens manuver gear? If so, that mobility advantage is going to win him the match.

I mean, what stops him from just gripping onto Jericho's body, or escaping to regenerate every time he takes some damage.

Seems like it's going to be very hard for him to deal with.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Reiner is 185 cm (slightly over 6 ft) and 95 kg (209 lbs), Chris is less than 20 lbs heavier than him and Eren can full on overhead throw Reiner with his reversals as well as copying Annie's fighting style

Okay. How is that going to help Eren in the long run against someone who can casually do overhead throws with no problem? Copying fighting styles is fair ig.

And on top of that, according to Chris' profile he has a problem with arrogance, which would play heavily in Eren's favor seeing as Chris is half a foot taller and almost 100 lbs heavier, Chris likely wouldnt see a visibly scrawny guy like Eren as a massive threat only for Eren to immediately put him on his head and go for a kill

I mean yeah, but, Jericho is generally the more skilled fighter, so if someone is trying to kill him, he would do his best to try to avoid that from happening. At least Agent 47 was more skilled than Jericho. Eren isn't. Plus, Eren is using CQC/H2H here, as well as Jericho. No equipment for Eren, so killing becomes even harder, especially since Jericho has Instinctive Reactions and Immense Pain Tolerance. Jericho is willing to Incap, KO, or Choke Out his opponent, so these are definite win cons for Jericho here.

Jericho is arrogant, but it's not to the point where it's a legitimate detriment to a fight. That logic would apply to someone like Austin Theory.

Yeah this has doomed Jericho in other threads, he is skilled but against opponents with more lethal tactics he can sometimes fall short, which was the reason Agent 47 stomped him (at least I think it was a stomp the thread just kinda died after it was decided 47 beat him conclusively)

Read what I said above.

Am I mistaken or you guys now allowing Erens manuver gear? If so, that mobility advantage is going to win him the match.

I mean, what stops him from just gripping onto Jericho's body, or escaping to regenerate every time he takes some damage.

Seems like it's going to be very hard for him to deal with.

100% agreed. I think we should just stick to a 1v1 CQC/H2H scrap between the two to keep it fair.

 

[Pikaman]

Yeah this has doomed Jericho in other threads, he is skilled but against opponents with more lethal tactics he can sometimes fall short, which was the reason Agent 47 stomped him (at least I think it was a stomp the thread just kinda died after it was decided 47 beat him conclusively)

Not to say he can’t hold his own though. He has great survivability thanks to a combination of instinctive reactions and pain tolerance, and can likely hold his own against a truly deadly opponent long enough to regroup and go for something like social influencing (unless they are practically naturally bloodlusted like 47, which is just a bit too much for Jericho if he doesn’t have a skill advantage, though he potentially holds that here)

 

[Phoenks]

If you restrict the 3D Gear this match can not be added as it is Eren's standard equipment.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Not to say he can’t hold his own though. He has great survivability thanks to a combination of instinctive reactions and pain tolerance, and can likely hold his own against a truly deadly opponent long enough to regroup and go for something like social influencing (unless they are practically naturally bloodlusted like 47, which is just a bit too much for Jericho if he doesn’t have a skill advantage, though he potentially holds that here)

Agent 47 had a skill advantage on Jericho, so that screwed him in that fight.

Jericho has a skill/experience advantage here, along with Pain Tolerance and Instinctive Reactions, which does help him a lot here. He'll also use Social Influencing if he really needs to.

 

[Pikaman]

At least Agent 47 was more skilled than Jericho

Yes, I do need to stress that 47’s combination of superior skill and deadly fighting style won him the match, going straight for the kill helps with Jericho, but without a skill advantage it only carries so much weight

 

[RandomGuy2345]

If you restrict the 3D Gear this match can not be added as it is Eren's standard equipment.

(idk why it is though, early in the series yeah but later in it, no)

(Guess this is early Eren?)

Wait, I didn't know that was standard equipment!

 

[Phoenks]

I don't see any way for Jericho to consistently overcome the Regen + Mobility combo.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I don't see any way for Jericho to consistently overcome the Regen + Mobility combo.

Wait, is the mobility thing really just standard equipment for Eren this early into the series?

If so, I can't see how Jericho can do any permanent damage to Eren.