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Earl is not bored enough so i help him in that regard

Firephoenixearl said:
Why, thank you not! I will be sure to repay this debt remind me to put Rei Ogami against Knight Run later
You and I both know that he stomps the entire verse so eh.
 
Actually this might be a lil less black than we thought. I need to consider somethings for that though.

Like whether ikki will feel envy (which would make it a passive stomp for Ogami), which i will need to re-check Ikki vs Stella to see whether Ikki's thoughts after seeing Stella grow practically endlessly could be called envy or just admiration and fear.

But other than that this could work. As long as we at least use Chibigami, since Adult Ogami has resurrection which Ikki can't bypass.
 
Ikki is still stronger so his skill from the 2nd key might come in handy (same for his skill in the 3rd key, but 3rd key doesn't exist).

Also i love how you just made this match and nobody participates just basically me vs me this whole fight
 
I mean, youre the only one "profititing" from this match, i was simply curios what you would think. And this thread gets yeeted either way so yeet?

I would have done Ikki vs GetBackers if that would have been fair haxwise tbh.
 
Mirio vs Ikki stats equalized Lets go

No but seriously, i said yeet but yeet this after you give yourself anneurysm from a lengthy, bipolar debate you had in your head and reach a conclusion~
 
If you do that i'll personally murder you cus i already said Ikki wins there

Ok but like do i even wanna debate this? I seriously just get a headache thinking about debating this. This is a heavy hax vs skill debate. The ultimate fire user vs the ultimate skill. Ogami has an insane advantage, but then again, it's not sth Ikki has not dealt with before. So quick rundown:

Satan and Lucifer - Ikki can obviously easily dodge but the fact that he's covered in them will be a problem for Ikki to hit, however Ikki managed to get through a similar wall of EE fire against Stella so he will be able to land a hit.

Belphegor - The only thing it can null is the sword but then again it's not detrimental to Ikki's fight, and he can still fight unconscious, but that is IF the fires hit which is gonna prove to be a tall order against someone like Ikki.

Mammom - Pretty much useless here, everything Mammon does is Low 7-C attacks which Ikki can tank or block and the turbulence of air to suck things in. But Stella did the same thing on a higher scale by using gravity instead. So this fire is pretty useless here.

Beelzebub - Beelzebub is invisible but it still produces heat and someone on Ikki's level will definitely pick that up and even has his danger senses to warn him. If Rei makes it rain, then he'll deal with it similarly to how he dealt with the rain of army bullets, just dodging and if need be Trackless Step.

Leviatha - Leviathan can deconstruct matter and it is nothing more than just a faster working version of Satan's blaze, however Stella's EE was also fast and Ikki can dodge these. As for the passive attack on envy, i still haven't checked, but Ikki takes pride in his swordsmanship from which stems his famous quote With my greatest weakness, I will defeat your greatest strength. So he doesn't see anyone as these out of reach gods he's the "you'll never know unless you fight" kind of guy. And even assuming he does feel envy towards Stella (though from what i remember it was more like fear), Chibigami still lacks any means of seeming as outwordly as Stella whose fire became so bright it turned into actual light, could instill fear and was physically untouchable by anything in the tournament and basically dwarfed him in every category that wasn't speed or skill. Chibigami lacks ways to show that kind of superiority over others, so i do not see Ikki feeling envious.

Asmodeus- Pretty useless, illusions of that level wouldn't really work on someone like Ikki. He'd see through it and would even react on instinct if Chibigami were to attack him during that.

So while Rei's chances aren't 0 for obvious reasons, i feel like Ikki's skill and match-up experience (having fought these types of abilities to at least a certain extent) should give him the win more often than not.

Ikki takes this.
 
All of them should be the same speed, that part is just cus there is a dude who uses sound to boost his speed (causes sound booms under his feet to move faster) and there is a dude who moves at light speed due to becoming light and both are part of the series. You can see where im going with this.

But no, there's no reason to say some flames are slower than others.
 
Not just Rei, the whole scaling becomes wonky. Example Toki who gets to fight Rei whose flames cought a SoL dude before, somehow becomes unable to react to a dude who uses sound to boost his stats.

Cat Boy is comparable to other rare kinds who stated that Heike (the dude who moves at SoL by virtue of using light) should be SoL in speed if he's capable of keeping up with them. Cat Boy gets pretty much blitzed by the dude who uses sound to boost his attacks.

So it's basically just inconsistency all around. Which is why they have such a large gap "Speed of Sound likely SoL", due to this.
 
The thing is, it's not actually sound. He uses it to push his body, so he uses the energy of the sound, so i guess it can be said that if he uses enough energy he could possibly propel himself far beyond Speed of Sound so there's that.
 
I remember when I started reading Code:Breaker and tried to get it revised way back. Most of them were listed at subsonic despite the series basically starting with bullet timing and the weaker characters being able to react to sound based attacks. When I got to the point where people were reacting to light and treating Yuuki's sound attacks as fast, I just kinda gave up.

You've done good work Fire.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
The thing is, it's not actually sound. He uses it to push his body, so he uses the energy of the sound, so i guess it can be said that if he uses enough energy he could possibly propel himself far beyond Speed of Sound so there's that.
Why is sound speed even in the profile if the guy with sound is faster than the guy with light? Or, well, if light speed isn't consistent in the verse then it shouldn't be light speed in the profile, but i think this is one of these verses where light speed applies to nearly every power, chinese novels have consistently light speed lightning for example.
 
XDragnoir said:
Why is sound speed even in the profile if the guy with sound is faster than the guy with light?
I mean, i don't think we should really assume the dude who uses sound should be SoL logically speaking so it's honestly just downplay if we take SoS as it's disregarding all the SoL feats in the verse and bordering on wank to just take SoL as it's disregarding Yuuki Tenpoui blitzing people.

So you can use whichever end you want in matches, it's no problem.
 
If you had said that before, them the match with Touma would have been actually fair if we used the speed of sound end.
 
Vote you cowards. The time has come.
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This madman actually managed to summon a bunch of people to vote on this shizophrenia trip.
 
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