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Dragonball Cosmology Revision: Part 3

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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Oh no, just because he didn't write it doesn't mean it's not canon, let's cite an example, episode G raquien and episode G kuramada didn't write it either, does that stop being canon? Of course that no! Akira toriyama has his own handwriting and autograph, and on the cover it says "Akira toriyama"

Oh no, it's not canon because there's a little boy talking 😔
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this is how it works here, arguing with me will not change that
 
So there is just one scan even in guidebook for infinite universe that is

An endless space of light and darkness.
 
Blog is looking good, but scans are needed.

Tho we need also a section for the misconceptions against the following:
  • 3-A Universes/Low 2-C Timeline
  • 2-C Universes (in canon at least)
  • High 3-A sized U7
So we avoid dealing with those everytime.
 
pineappleman said:
If someone can send me the exact phrase where there's a translation problem, I've got a native speaking Japanese friend I can ask to give his input
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銀河

宇宙 中 中 に ある ある 的 的 な 星 々 の 集まり 星 星 の 集まり 星雲 を 作り 集まっ さらに いくつ か か 星雲 が 集まっ て た た を 銀河 という 宇宙 宇宙 という という 宇宙 宇宙 の 南 北 北 担当 担当 東西 南 北 担当 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し て いる を 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し王 は, 実際 に は こ 銀河 を 監視 し て いる. 東西 南 北 の 銀河 と いう 区分 は, 天界 の 神々 や 界王 たち が が 宇宙 宇宙 空間 に 無限 に 存在 する 銀河 を 統括 する する 銀河 を 統括 する ため に を 統括 する ため に を 統括 する ため 銀河 を 統括 する ため 銀河 を 統括 する する単位である。



Galaxy

A localized collection of stars in the universe. A collection of stars that come together to form a nebula, and a collection of nebulae is called a galaxy. The 4 kaioshin, responsible for the east, west, north and south of the universe, actually monitor these galaxies. The division of galaxies into east, west, north, south is a unit used by kami and kaio of the celestial realm for commercial purposes, in order to oversee the infinite number of galaxies that exist in outer space.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Blog is looking good, but scans are needed.

Tho we need also a section for the misconceptions against the following:
  • 3-A Universes/Low 2-C Timeline
  • 2-C Universes (in canon at least)
  • High 3-A sized U7
So we avoid dealing with those everytime.
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I agree. The misconceptions regarding those three points needed to be cleared.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
銀河

宇宙 中 中 に ある ある 的 的 な 星 々 の 集まり 星 星 の 集まり 星雲 を 作り 集まっ さらに いくつ か か 星雲 が 集まっ て た た を 銀河 という 宇宙 宇宙 という という 宇宙 宇宙 の 南 北 北 担当 担当 東西 南 北 担当 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し て いる を 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し王 は, 実際 に は こ 銀河 を 監視 し て いる. 東西 南 北 の 銀河 と いう 区分 は, 天界 の 神々 や 界王 たち が が 宇宙 宇宙 空間 に 無限 に 存在 する 銀河 を 統括 する する 銀河 を 統括 する ため に を 統括 する ため に を 統括 する ため 銀河 を 統括 する ため 銀河 を 統括 する する単位である。



Galaxy

A localized collection of stars in the universe. A collection of stars that come together to form a nebula, and a collection of nebulae is called a galaxy. The 4 kaioshin, responsible for the east, west, north and south of the universe, actually monitor these galaxies. The division of galaxies into east, west, north, south is a unit used by kami and kaio of the celestial realm for commercial purposes, in order to oversee the infinite number of galaxies that exist in outer space.
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Sorry to break it to you but, you cannot argue for this.

As said in the Discussion Rules,
  • We do not use the Daizenshuu (and previously released guides based on Daizenshuu) as a reliable source to determine Universe 7's size because many claims regarding its size and structure, such as the existence of four galaxies, or them existing infinitely, the universe being infinite, the heaven being infinite, etc. have been found contradictory, as discussed in several threads. However, the cosmology is subject to change if we get reliable information from new anime episodes, movies, manga chapters, and/or official guidebooks.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Sorry to break it to you but, you cannot argue for this.

As said in the Discussion Rules,
  • We do not use the Daizenshuu (and previously released guides based on Daizenshuu) as a reliable source to determine Universe 7's size because many claims regarding its size and structure, such as the existence of four galaxies, or them existing infinitely, the universe being infinite, the heaven being infinite, etc. have been found contradictory, as discussed in several threads. However, the cosmology is subject to change if we get reliable information from new anime episodes, movies, manga chapters, and/or official guidebooks.
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Just relax, we're all debating the infinite Universe, according to Fire's blog, so just stop bringing up rules from 200 years ago.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Just relax, we're all debating the infinite Universe, according to Fire's blog, so just stop bringing up rules from 200 years ago.
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Rules which are still applied tf is this logic.

You cannot discard laws just because they're old.

And besides, the infinite universe has been refuted 300 times already. If you're against the rule, make a CRT to remove it.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Sorry to break it to you but, you cannot argue for this.

As said in the Discussion Rules,
  • We do not use the Daizenshuu (and previously released guides based on Daizenshuu) as a reliable source to determine Universe 7's size because many claims regarding its size and structure, such as the existence of four galaxies, or them existing infinitely, the universe being infinite, the heaven being infinite, etc. have been found contradictory, as discussed in several threads. However, the cosmology is subject to change if we get reliable information from new anime episodes, movies, manga chapters, and/or official guidebooks.
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It's funny, because Heaven is now accepted as being universe sized, and we're arguing for an infinite universe which would also make it infinite. And so has there being more than four galaxies been accepted, so an infinite universe is the only thing left to making that entire rule moot.
That rule ought to be updated sooner than later, or just gotten rid of for the better.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Rules which are still applied tf is this logic.

You cannot discard laws just because they're old.

And besides, the infinite universe has been refuted 300 times already. If you're against the rule, make a CRT to remove it.
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No, no, no, make yourself another CRT if you want to argue about rules, the thread here was created for the purpose of discussing the blog, stop mentioning rules which are based on the AKM argument that there are only 4 Galaxies in Universe 7.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Just relax, we're all debating the infinite Universe, according to Fire's blog, so just stop bringing up rules from 200 years ago.
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When there is just one scan which pretty much already using all kind of metaphoric words which looks more of a aesthetic than something trying to really stressed over the words, also has no support from the series, also has been contradicted with edge thing. It's not enough evidence.

Edit: Oh no... Did I just...
 
Reiner said:
When there is just one scan which pretty much already using all kind of metaphoric words which looks more of a aesthetic than something trying to really stressed over the words, also has no support from the series, also has been contradicted with edge thing. It's not enough evidence.

Edit: Oh no... Did I just...
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Oh it's metaphorical because, show arguments for it?
 
pineappleman said:
It's funny, because Heaven is now accepted as being universe sized, and we're arguing for an infinite universe which would also make it infinite. And so has there being more than four galaxies been accepted, so an infinite universe is the only thing left to making that entire rule moot.
That rule ought to be updated sooner than later, or just gotten rid of for the better.
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Well, I think it would only affect Toei anime if it was accepted since this CRT was accepted.

So, in the manga, the sky is not as big as the universe.
 
Reiner said:
When there is just one scan which pretty much already using all kind of metaphoric words which looks more of a aesthetic than something trying to really stressed over the words, also has no support from the series, also has been contradicted with edge thing. It's not enough evidence.

Edit: Oh no... Did I just...
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Reiner said:
Raw?
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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
銀河

宇宙 中 中 に ある ある 的 的 な 星 々 の 集まり 星 星 の 集まり 星雲 を 作り 集まっ さらに いくつ か か 星雲 が 集まっ て た た を 銀河 という 宇宙 宇宙 という という 宇宙 宇宙 の 南 北 北 担当 担当 東西 南 北 担当 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し て いる を 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し て 北 を 担当 し王 は, 実際 に は こ 銀河 を 監視 し て いる. 東西 南 北 の 銀河 と いう 区分 は, 天界 の 神々 や 界王 たち が が 宇宙 宇宙 空間 に 無限 に 存在 する 銀河 を 統括 する する 銀河 を 統括 する ため に を 統括 する ため に を 統括 する ため 銀河 を 統括 する ため 銀河 を 統括 する する単位である。



Galaxy

A localized collection of stars in the universe. A collection of stars that come together to form a nebula, and a collection of nebulae is called a galaxy. The 4 kaioshin, responsible for the east, west, north and south of the universe, actually monitor these galaxies. The division of galaxies into east, west, north, south is a unit used by kami and kaio of the celestial realm for commercial purposes, in order to oversee the infinite number of galaxies that exist in outer space.
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omegabronic said:
no, as the visual is from the actual series it takes priority
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No, visuals are not taken primary to the statements. It doesn’t matter if it’s part of the official canon. That isn’t a good argument. You can argue that a High 3A universe is contradicted in Super, but not by using visuals lmao
 
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