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Or more like the greatest example of bias and fans.yeah, you don't understand anything about it then. DB hypertimeline is possibly one of the most straightforward and simplest examples of higher time on the wiki
you could make this exact arguments all the way for tier 2 to tier 5 as well believe it or not, thats how flawed it is
actually is the worst example because hypertime is a concept of DC! (and they put Dc in low 1-C)The only way is to accept the facts, DB's hyper timeline is one of vsbtles' greatest examples of how it makes total sense to be low 1-C (it is used for several examples in other verses)
This is the first work with such a feat of fitting so well with the hyper-timeline, DB was born to be low 1-C.
actually is the worst example because hypertime is a concept of DC! (and they put Dc in low 1-C)
Perhaps it would be a prejudice from the opponents themselves who cannot see other verses being updated higher than their work.Or more like the greatest example of bias and fans.
Come on, there was no statements of hypertimelines in Dragón Ball ever
It's even more funny because Sonic has 2 dimensional tiers attributed to hypertimelines afaikWhy are you saying this with a picture of Sonic on your profile?
Ficcion sin limites did the same thing but at least they didn't use hypertimelines.It's even more funny because Sonic has 2 dimensional tiers attributed to hypertimelines afaik
same shit different packagingFiccion sin limites did the same thing but at least they didn't use hypertimelines.
Fire Force had all the 5D things, but nooooo, Dragon ball one is better than the in literraly statements of a realm which is a higher dimensionPerhaps it would be a prejudice from the opponents themselves who cannot see other verses being updated higher than their work.
bias? what kinda bias? attempting to change standards while a CRT is going well is certainly convenient....or biased.Or more like the greatest example of bias and fans.
there are none is almost all fictions that do qualify for it. that's not how we scale anything. there's no statements of "goku is Low Multiversal and MFTL+" in DBS either yet here we are, we infer it from different feats and statements. seems to me the only one biased here is you, because if you're willing to give that luxury to your favorite fictional works but not to dragon ball, then that's bias indeed. and if you don't do it for any fiction, you're frankly on the wrong site, try comicvine maybe.Come on, there was no statements of hypertimelines in Dragón Ball ever
Except that they at least don't use the "hypertime"excuses.same shit different packaging
i mention a cosmological thing, you don't need to mention another thing completely different, que mierda?bias? what kinda bias? attempting to change standards while a CRT is going well is certainly convenient....or biased.
there are none is almost all fictions that do qualify for it. that's not how we scale anything. there's no statements of "goku is Low Multiversal and MFTL+" in DBS either yet here we are, we infer it from different feats and statements. seems to me the only one biased here is you, because if you're willing to give that luxury to your favorite fictional works but not to dragon ball, then that's bias indeed. and if you don't do it for any fiction, you're frankly on the wrong site, try comicvine maybe.
It simply did not meet the requirements, it was literally unmasked.Fire Force had all the 5D things, but nooooo, Dragon ball one is better than the in literraly statements of a realm which is a higher dimension
Bingo!!!!It's even more funny because Sonic has 2 dimensional tiers attributed to hypertimelines afaik
not seeing how it's an "excuse" and from your conversation here you've made it clear that your problem isnt hypertime itself but specifically Dragon Ball being allowed to have/quality for it. in that case you're just being downright disingenuous and its not a good look.Except that they at least don't use the "hypertime"excuses.
and? my stance stays the same. no fiction (except for maybe DC) that qualifies for hypertimelines (sonic included btw, as others pointed out, which you conveniently dont criticize which pretty much is a dead giveaway segueing into the point above) explicitly uses the term. literally one of the worst arguments i hear on this site is authors not using power scaling terms we made up in order to accommodate fictional settings in the first place.i mention a cosmological thing, you don't need to mention another thing completely different, que mierda?
That sounds just like what Pain said for the universal scaling, he was the one preventing it just because in his mind, it didnt fit or didn't like it or the requirements, blah blahIt simply did not meet the requirements, it was literally unmasked.
Sometimes i myself am amazed why it is necessary to have quotes stating it, when we have several things in the verse showing that it is a hyperline of time, it reminded me of a certain someone, where he says that it is not spoken, but in the image of the work it is saying the opposite
I don't like the hypertimelines on Sonic in this wiki, like i said FSL did it better
If you have a problem regarding hypertimelines then make a crt about itI don't like the hypertimelines on Sonic in this wiki, like i said FSL did it better
I believe if there were strong arguments for this it would have been possible, we had to do several crts to achieve this, we had to show a whole list of evidence, until we finally got it, you can do the same to try to update your favorite verse ( show several evidences that there is indeed a hyper-timeline in the verse, of course, if it doesn't just have one mention, lol )That sounds just like what Pain said for the universal scaling, he was the one preventing it just because in his mind, it didnt fit or didn't like it or the requirements, blah blah
Yeah my problem is just hypertime itselfnot seeing how it's an "excuse" and from your conversation here you've made it clear that your problem isnt hypertime itself but specifically Dragon Ball being allowed to have/quality for it. in that case you're just being downright disingenuous and its not a good look.
what scaling terms?all your terms are not used at all in fiction.and? my stance stays the same. no fiction (except for maybe DC) that qualifies for hypertimelines (sonic included btw, as others pointed out, which you conveniently dont criticize which pretty much is a dead giveaway segueing into the point above) explicitly uses the term. literally one of the worst arguments i hear on this site is authors not using power scaling terms we made up in order to accommodate fictional settings in the first place.
"you wrong because you argument dumb" If you don't wanna pay attention to what I said that gives me even less reason to talk about this lol. Anyways I'm out til Sparking Zero and Daima ya'll have lost it in this thread.yeah, you don't understand anything about it then. DB hypertimeline is possibly one of the most straightforward and simplest examples of higher time on the wiki
you could make this exact arguments all the way for tier 2 to tier 5 as well believe it or not, thats how flawed it is
Fire force does not even have hypertimelines, why would the 5D come from hypertimelines?I believe if there were strong arguments for this it would have been possible, we had to do several crts to achieve this, we had to show a whole list of evidence, until we finally got it, you can do the same to try to update your favorite verse ( show several evidences that there is indeed a hyper-timeline in the verse, of course, if it doesn't just have one mention, lol )
that's not what most people inferred from your argument and that's certainly not what you've really been saying. you specifically criticized Dragon Ball's concept of hypertime, not the Wiki's actual standard. please don't dig yourself deeper, no one's buying it atp.Yeah my problem is just hypertime itself
exactlywhat scaling terms?all your terms are not used at all in fiction.
not really relevant here but you're pretty much steelmanning my pointInstinctive reaction is used without that name at all, or concept manipulation is used without that term being used either.
never said it isThe problem with hypertime is not that it is a DC concept,
that's how scaling worksis that somehow people decided to use it to apply for all fiction if they meet the requirenments.
and i said this 4 times already, i don't like Sonic having this
lets just say i paid about as much attention to what you said, as you did to the hypertimeline stuff and blogs. is that fair?"you wrong because you argument dumb" If you don't wanna pay attention to what I said that gives me even less reason to talk about this lol. Anyways I'm out til Sparking Zero and Daima ya'll have lost it in this thread.
lets just say i paid about as much attention to what you said, as you did to the hypertimeline stuff and blogs. is that fair?
I don't know, i don't understand anime about fire that goes back in time at speed, but anyway, there doesn't seem to be any evidence for it being low 1-C, otherwise it wouldn't be in 5D nowadays.Fire force does not even have hypertimelines, why would the 5D come from hypertimelines?
Where did i said that i like hypertime for other verses?WHERE?????that's not what most people inferred from your argument and that's certainly not what you've really been saying. you specifically criticized Dragon Ball's concept of hypertime, not the Wiki's actual standard. please don't dig yourself deeper, no one's buying it atp.
Okexactly
Not reallynot really relevant here but you're pretty much steelmanning my point
Mmmnever said it is
Whatever you saythat's how scaling works
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It should have stayed thereDragon Ball is one of the most difficult verses to get updates for because it's too famous, if any update passed it was because it met the requirements with wiki here, otherwise we'd be years in 2-C.
That's how much you hate the idea of DB reaching level 5D, but why don't you make a crt to change this?It should have stayed there
because i know they would not accept it unless i am a staff or a respect member in this place.That's how much you hate the idea of DB reaching level 5D, but why don't you make a crt to change this?
Because like i say, people like Pain didn't want the verse to be higher than planet levelI don't know, i don't understand anime about fire that goes back in time at speed, but anyway, there doesn't seem to be any evidence for it being low 1-C, otherwise it wouldn't be in 5D nowadays.
Only animeFellas is Zeno's profile composited, or only anime?
Dang it I was planning on doing high godly regen negation for ZenoOnly anime
Just try, i know you're doing your bestbecause i know they would not accept it unless i am a staff or a respect member in this place.
Also the reviewing time is to long!
Ok show me the cosmologial thing for referenceJust try, i know you're doing your best![]()
Dang it I was planning on doing high godly regen negation for Zeno![]()
He's already said strange things about DB, but we beat him to the argument, shouldn't he do the same?Because like i say, people like Pain didn't want the verse to be higher than planet level