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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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Naturally. Bullets in DB should scale to base Goku too. Meaning that Raditz>base DBS Goku.
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Where that from? Going from getting murderstomped by Tao Pai Pai and being incomparably weaker than him to low-diffing him seems like more than 2x to me lol.
Serlock_Holmes
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Real or not?
Also can someone catch me up to wtf is Dragonball magic and it's canonicity? Last I heard the manga was somewhat canon.
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Toriyama and staff are involved, and it's set right after Super Hero but before the end of Z
Serlock_Holmes
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So it can be canon and may help with scaling the cosmology?
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Yes, possibly
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WE MAKIN IT OUT OF UNIVERSE 7 WITH THIS ONE
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we need scans fam
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Eden_Warlock99
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Anything important in that scan?
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Its basically saying the section that covers strength battle power and growth was under toriyama's supervision.
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10x what?
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10x via Kid Goku unlocking his great ape power in base via a statement
Nullflowerblush
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Third Grade Super Saiyan being 10x as powerful as Super Saiyan.
If an explicit, manga-based databook statement describing Super Saiyan 2 as more powerful than all of the forms of Super Saiyan, then a case could be made that the Super Exciting Guide is 2x as powerful as Third Grade.
If I recall correctly, the image of the Great Ape was the memory that Goku associated with his potential, but isn't necessarily the strength he gained from the Ultra Divine Water.
Eden_Warlock99
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That would make Pilaf Saga Goku High 6-A, wouldn't it?
Spinoirr
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Uh no
Eden_Warlock99
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We already have the "nearly x20" multiplier for 22nd Budokai Goku to Pilaf Saga Goku, so Vs. Demon King Pickle Goku being x10 above 22nd Budokai Goku is the result
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Yeah, we currently composite the cosmology. I think Deagonx and Damage are planning a staff revision to appeal to Antvasima and convince him to oppose the composite cosmology, but like Luffy brought up in the composite cosmology downgrade thread, it's stated here that Battle of Gods is canon to the Toeiverse and takes place in between the Z anime and GT.
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who's making the SSG GT Goku key crt, has more canonicity and accessibility than Modern Hyper Sonic so it should be fine lmao
Nullflowerblush
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We do not accept that Battle of Gods is canon to Toeiverse in the sense that it’s in the same timeline. We accept that Toeiverse and GT are alternate timelines.
Nullflowerblush
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Ok so what was all this wafflin about magic and a new series about? So like, is it a weird GT plotline rip-off where Goku was turned into a kid by magic and the series gonna be based on magic mostly rather than Ki?
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Is Goku gonna use magic or something?
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Idk what's going on but people seem unhappy. But tbh I don't see how it could be a big deal. At least it's unique unlike Super which only had a few interesting plot lines that it executed predictably and in a mediocre way, and which mostly garnered success off of meat-riding easy nostalgia bait.
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Dis real?
Nullflowerblush
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cough cough gt
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If that's the case then yeah nvm all that this is dog shit and very disappointing tbh. 4 years of waiting for a 15 episode series that is literally just an alternate version of GT's plot but centered around magic and featuring only the MC and a side character no one really asked for more of. Shin is aight ig but I don't think anyone was saying "God damn Shin should be apart of the main group, he deserves a spin-off series!". If it was a series about Goku learning magic, that would be interesting (though would really need to stretch it to justify Goku wanting to do that). This just sounds unfathomably mid and uninteresting.
Like, do they seriously have no idea what Dragon Ball fan's want? ARE THEY THIS CLUELESS? How about a what if series kind of like what Marvel did, that would be absolutely sick. Literally just look at CarthusDojo and you can get like a 50+ episode series idea that would probably do better than DBS. Or they could make spin-off series about characters that deserve attention without trying to split it between Goku and random side characters. Like, a spin-off series focused on the God's of Destruction or the Kai's, or hell even just the divine realm in general.
They want to try so hard to be unique and different yet they don't know how to just not make something about Goku at the same time.
Like, do they seriously have no idea what Dragon Ball fan's want? ARE THEY THIS CLUELESS? How about a what if series kind of like what Marvel did, that would be absolutely sick. Literally just look at CarthusDojo and you can get like a 50+ episode series idea that would probably do better than DBS. Or they could make spin-off series about characters that deserve attention without trying to split it between Goku and random side characters. Like, a spin-off series focused on the God's of Destruction or the Kai's, or hell even just the divine realm in general.
They want to try so hard to be unique and different yet they don't know how to just not make something about Goku at the same time.
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Yeah didn't realize yet.
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Also people coping about Goku getting hax resistances are funny. The whole plot line is that someone used hax and Goku couldn't do anything about it and he needs to chase down the same dude just to go back to normal. They're probably going to catch-up with the demon multiple times just to get haxed away anyways until they do something and win at the end.
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Dude imagine how sick it would be if they did a spin-off of the Arcosian race with Frieza as the MC. Or even a Vegeta spin-off where we see everything from his perspective.
But no, we get GT: Rebooted, starring the Supreme Kai and Goku, the character no one can ever get a bit tired of and who doesn't often have the spotlight in the series.
But no, we get GT: Rebooted, starring the Supreme Kai and Goku, the character no one can ever get a bit tired of and who doesn't often have the spotlight in the series.
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DBS Broly and Z staff are involved aswell it seems, at least this is what the leaks say..
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I want Goku to get some Hax resistance against Magic
Nullflowerblush
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Kami transferred his soul into the body of Shen, transferring his power, too; but when Ginyu transferred his mind info the body of Goku, Ginyu was only able to use Goku's power.
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