Dr. Slump General Discussion Thread

[Jasonsith]

As topic. Anything related to Dr. Slump.

Including the follows:
Possible feat discovery.
Possible cosmology discussion.
Dr. Slump in different media.

 

[Ss3micah]

Alright
Time to comment

1. Earth is approximately 6371 km in radius.
Earth is 149,598,023 km away from the sun
Venus is 108,208,000 km away from the sun, making Earth at least 146.26 million km away from Venus and most 257,806,023 km from Venus.
2. In Dr. Slump revealed that Earth is 4 Billion km away from Venus and that it's the same amount of distance needed to circle the earth at least once.



We should accept the statement as valid because:
It is an inverse statement that comes from a knowledgeable Dr. Slump character and there is a specific context in which the statement is given and the information is applied accordingly. It is not a random throw-away moment but rather a specific moment that ties into the plot of the episode.

The old guy is a PROFESSOR name Umashika and he is doing an interview and explanation at NASU Space Center for a Rocket Launching and Travelling through SPACE that will be a monumental moment in Human History.
Senbei was Sleeping and Woke Up at the sound of his name

This statement when accepted would make Dr. Slump's Earth far bigger than our RL Earth. Therefore any geography would need to be reshaped to adapt to such a data set in the statement.

 

[Ss3micah]

However, there is a problem with how we should upscale every other such as celestial data. To upscale from the distance between Earth and Venus, or from the size of the Earth. The author is not sure about which multiplier we should use to scale Dr. Slump Earth.

Here is my opinion and suggestion
Based on these images, it's safe to say that the Solar System seems to follow this structure. We, of course, have Earth, Venus, Mercury, and the Sun on one side and in the other images, we have Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn on the other side.

In terms of Multiplier...
There are no concrete multipliers to work nor any that was given as far as I'm aware.

We know based on our own structure of the solar system that Earth's closest neighbor is Venus and according to research the distance between Earth and Venus is at least 146.26 million km. In Dr. Slump the distance between Earth and Venus is 4 Billion Kilometers and distances between Earth and the other planets of the solar system would upscale from this.

My Solution:
Since Dr. Slump Solar system structure mirrors that of our own then some multiplication is likely in order.
IN THEORY, we could something like this:

Slump E to V Distance / IRL E to V Distance =
4,000,000,000 / 146,260,000 = 27.348

Slump E to Any other planet/star distance = IRL Distance x 27.348

My Next Solution:
Dr. Slump's Earth Circumference is 4,000,000,000 KM, given the distance between Earth and Venus is what is needed to Circle the planet once. IRL Earth's Circumference is 40,075 KM

4,000,000,000 / 40,075 = 99,812.851

Given that Dr. Slump seems to maintain the distinction of planet sizes in their solar system as Earth is still smaller when compared to things like Jupiter and Saturn. We could say that
Slump Planets Sizes = IRL Planet Sizes x 99,812.851

This is an INCOMPLETE THEORY and if anyone has better ideas that would be much appreciated

And remember: the sizes of the sun in Dr. Slump can vary a LOT.
True but that is usually the Sun in Toon Form / when it's used for cartoon/gag purposes. When the Sun is acting like a True Sun it is a different matter. When it comes to the ACTUAL SUN rather than the toon sun, its size IS shown to be quite large, larger than the surrounding planets.

Also, the manga author/animation writer may not even be serious in writing the statement.
I have already given the context that for the occasion the statement was quite serious. Not just that but he has given other statements that have been regarded and treated as fact consistently
So the information is quite reliable

 

[Jasonsith]

So there are a few possibilities:

1. The in-verse scientist is correct only about the distance between Earth and Venus.
Slump celestial body distance from sun = real world celestial body distance from sun x 27.348
Slump celestial body size = real world celestial body size x 27.348
2. The in-verse scientist is correct only about the circumference of the Earth.
Slump celestial body distance from sun = real world celestial body distance from sun x 99,812.851
Slump celestial body size = real world celestial body size x 99,812.851
3. The in-verse scientist is shittalking and we just ignore this scene in particular. Because the author / mangaka / animators / scriptwriter cannot agree on a set idea of figures or multiplier compared to our real world
4. The in-verse scientist is correct only about the circumference of the Earth and about the distance between Earth and Venus but the multipliers are just different.
Slump celestial body size = real world celestial body size x 99,812.851
Slump celestial body distance from sun = real world celestial body distance from sun x 27.348
Problem: this may make the planet size too big compared to their distances apart.
5. The in-verse scientist is correct only about the circumference of the Earth and about the distance between Earth and Venus but other statements still follow data from our real world. Which means Slump Venus will be far away from Earth now.
6. We need to obtain even more other statements of and/or scenes involving celestial bodies and astronomy and geography in-verse and compare each statement to the real life data about celestial bodies and astronomy and geography in our real world to get a better groups of data to work on.

 

[Fireld]

Quite the condrum we've got here.
1. We could do it like Marvel does it & use this statement only for the feats that came after the statements
2. We could use the normal solar system as low end & the data as a high end

2. The in-verse scientist is correct only about the circumference of the Earth

3. We don't the use the distance statement as much as the circumference statement. Afterall the distance between planets changes to a colossal degree IRL from 38 million km to 261 million km

 

[Ss3micah]

Quite the condrum we've got here.
1. We could do it like Marvel does it & use this statement only for the feats that came after the statements

Marvel is quite the expansive universe so it would more than likely be able to facilitate this method but Dr Slump likely could not given its quite its own self contained verse with a cosmology not even 10% as expensive nor complex

Besides it feels kinda inconsistent/inaccurate to apply that method, assuming that everything before the statement is a standard solar system and after the statement is given does it become an expansive solar system

2. We could use the normal solar system as low end & the data as a high end

This makes sense and this I agree with
Two sets of calcs
Low End calc = IRL Solar System
High End Calc = Dr Slump Solar System

 

[Ss3micah]

So there are a few possibilities:

1. The in-verse scientist is correct only about the distance between Earth and Venus.
Slump celestial body distance from sun = real world celestial body distance from sun x 27.348
Slump celestial body size = real world celestial body size x 27.348
2. The in-verse scientist is correct only about the circumference of the Earth.
Slump celestial body distance from sun = real world celestial body distance from sun x 99,812.851
Slump celestial body size = real world celestial body size x 99,812.851

Im currently juggling between option 1 and 2
One of these needs to be our high end calc

 

[Jasonsith]

Im currently juggling between option 1 and 2
One of these needs to be our high end calc

Actually I am more interested in how many times have scientists in this verse give statistics about the universe they live in.

 

[Confluctor]

God (Dr. Slump)

God (神様, Kami-sama) (or Lord of the Galaxy in the Viz Media translation) is the creator of the Dr. Slump universe. His design later served as inspiration for Dragon Ball's Master Roshi. He first appear in Chapter 206, The Gatchans, Exposed!, to judge mankind for their sins and destroy the Earth...

vsbattles.fandom.com

This file needs to be deleted as its generally bad. It's hella outdated, wrong ap and durability stuff, also wrong justifications - he didn't create the universe, hell and heaven.

 

[Ss3micah]

God (Dr. Slump)

God (神様, Kami-sama) (or Lord of the Galaxy in the Viz Media translation) is the creator of the Dr. Slump universe. His design later served as inspiration for Dragon Ball's Master Roshi. He first appear in Chapter 206, The Gatchans, Exposed!, to judge mankind for their sins and destroy the Earth...

vsbattles.fandom.com

This file needs to be deleted as its generally bad. It's hella outdated, wrong ap and durability stuff, also wrong justifications - he didn't create the universe, hell and heaven.

Completely Agree

 

[Confluctor]

Does anyone here have any scans of God saying he's the creator of everything from the manga?

No, that's why we want to delete it. Because its wrong

 

[Ss3micah]

AP Feat 1:
Arale Busting Earth
Feat 1
Feat 2
As you should know by now and I and others had previously covered, the Dr. Slumps earth is massive. It has a Circumference of 4 Billion Km which makes it even more massive than the sun and comparable in size to some of the Largest stars recorded in IRL Human History. (Fun Fact: Dr. Slump's Earth would be even bigger than the Red Super Giant Star ANTARES).
Now given that Arale has feats of effortlessly busting the Planet time and time again.... I'm gonna guess that this feat would Calc up to AT LEAST a High End 4-C Feat to a High 4-C Feat (and possibly 4-B). This is just an assumption on my part. I'll leave the Calcing to you so we can know for sure.

AP Feat 2:
Nikochan Technology Busting Mars
Scan
Feats
In this compilation file mark Feats, you will see a Green Alien using a machine to completely destroy the Red Planet which is Mars. Now, Mars is smaller than Earth (even in Dr. Slump) but this Feat is mostly for those who would scale below Arale but relative or above the Nikochan's Machine.
And as Mars is albeit smaller, still relative to the size of Earth. If we use IRL Logic to assign an appropriate size, then just as how IRL Mars' Circumference (21,344 km) is APPROXIAMTELY half the size IRL Earth's Circumference (40,075 km), then Dr. Slump's Mars' Circumference would be approximately half of Dr. Slump's Earth's Circumference, that value being approximately 2,000,000,000 Km. I'm assuming we'll get a calc that ranges from at least a high end 4-C feat to a High 4-C Calc for this as well for this Feat.

AP Feat 3:
Arale and Gatchan's Busting Asteroid
Feat
Arale can casually one-tap (Super Giant Star Sized) Earth with no difficultly. Here Arale actively tries, WITH INTENT, to Bust this Meteor, unleashing a flurry of punches to no Avail. She (along with the Gatchan's) then collectively blast this same asteroid (which can withstand Arale's Super Giant Star Busting Punches without a scratch) to bits, leaving not a trace behind. I'm assuming this will be an EASY High 4-C Feat up to possibly Solar System Feat that would scale to Arale's and Gatchan's Blast Attacks

AP FEAT 4:
Obotchaman busts Mega Moon
Scan
Feat
You know this Feat by now. A High End Feat. Obotchaman easily eclipses the Mega Moon which Severely DWAFRS the already Massive Size of Dr. Slumps earth. I'm assuming an AT LEAST High 4-C Feat up to Solar System Level Feat

AP Feat 5:
Arale cracks the Sun
Scan
Feat
Similar to the principle of IRL Earth being bigger than IRL Mars, Dr. Slump also keeps the principle of the Sun being Bigger than the Earth. IRL, the Circumference of the Sun is 4.379 million km in comparison to the Earth which only has a Circumference of 40,075 km. If we play a little game of math then dividing the Sun's Circumference from the Earth's Circumference would leave us with a value of the Sun being approximately 109 times larger than the circumference of the Earth. Dr. Slumps Earth and Sun would also adhere to this logic, making the Sun of Dr. Slump approximately 109 times larger than the Circumference of Dr. Slump's Earth; in other words your looking at the Sun being roughly around 436 Billion Km in Circumference (easily outclassing the UY Scuti's (Largest Star EVER RECORDED) Circumference of 7.5 billion km). The Dr. Slump Sun easily Dwarfs the Dr. Slump Earth as well in two cases, Arale has been able to Crack the Sun. The first time when she sent 001 CRASHING into the Sun at top speeds and the second time She deliberately cracked the sun herself. Easy High 4-C feat and likely 4-B feat as well.

AP Feat Extra:
Pig Shatters Starry Night Sky (with several stars)
Feat
Mr. Pig easily and casually Shatters the Starry Night sky and causes lots of Stars to Collapse. Im gonna ssume this is gonna be an at least High 4-C, 4-B or even 4-A feat.

That does it for the AP category
Please do the Calculations and inform me when your done so I can send you the next set; that being the speed category
Appreciate your time and support



Speed Feat 1:
Midori jogs around the Planet in one Month.
Feat
What needs to be considered here is the Large Size of the Planet (4 billion Km Circumference) and the fact Midori seemingly travelled in a straight line around the Planet. The statement from Mr. Pig about Midori going AROUND the World even more so Indicates that Midori circled the Planet. So the question now to ask is.... how fast would one need to move/jog in order to circle a Circumference of 4 billion Km in one month's time.

Speed Feat 2:
Senbei runs around the Planet in a Second.
Feat
Far outclassing Midori's Feat, it took her a Month to Circle the Planet (thou she was Jogging) and Senbei full-on ran across the same planet that has a Circumference of 4 billion Km, in a Second.

Speed Feat 3:
Arale and Gatchans travel to the Sun in Seconds
Feat
As already seen in the Scans, the distance between Dr. Slump's Earth and Venus is 4 billion Km. IRL Distance between Earth and the Sun is 149.07 million km and IRL Earth and Veus is 256.86 million km. The Distance between E and V is 1.72308311531 times greater than E and the Sun. Using this comparison logic and applying it to Dr, Slump since Dr. Slump still uses the IRL schematics of the Solar System.... Dr. Slump Earth from Sun distance would be 1.72308311531 lesser than Dr. Slump Earth from Venus distance which consequently be would be 2,321,420,228.93 Km. So Aarle and Gatchan's travelled a Distance of 2,321,420,228.93 Km in a few seconds.

Speed Feat 4:
Arale sends the Moon from Earth to Venus.
Feat
As already seen in the Scans, the distance between Dr. Slump's Earth and Venus is 4 billion Km. The Moon itself is not that much smaller than the Earth as clearly seen so it would likely be comparable to its massive size. IRL the moon has a Circumference 10,921 Km while the Earth has a Circumference of 40,075 Km, making the IRL Earth Circumference 3.6695357568 times greater than the circumference of the Moon. Using this comparison logic and applying it to Dr, Slump since Dr. Slump still uses the IRL schematics of the Solar System.... The Dr. Slump Moon would have a Circumference 3.6695357568 lesser than that of the Earth, which would make Dr. Slump Moon's Circumference 1,090,056,144.73 Km. So, Arale sent a Moon with a Circumference of 1,090,056,144.73 Km from Earth to Venus (4 billion KM distance) in less than 10 seconds.

Speed Feat 5:
Arale travels from Earth to Saturn in Seconds
Feat 1
Feat 2
So given that Dr. Slump follows the Schematics of the IRL Solar System. When comparing the IRL distance of Earth to Venus (256.86 million km) to Dr Slumps Earth to Venus (4 Billion Km). Dr Slumps E to V distance is 15.5726855096 times greater than that of IRL E to V and already greater than IRL Earth to Saturn distance (1.4049 billion km).
To get an accurate idea of the Earth to Saturn Distance of Dr. Slump, then given Dr Slumps E to V is approx. 15 times greater than IRL, then Dr Slumps Earth to Saturn would be approx. 15 times greater than IRL Earth to Saturn; which would make it : 1.4049 billion km (IRL Earth to Saturn Distance) x 15.5726855096 = 21,878,065,872.4 Km.
So Arale travelled a Distance from 21,878,065,872.4 Km in a few seconds
Btw the Way we know it's Saturn because the Japanese Kanji for Saturn is used

Speed Feat 6:
Gatchan and Turbo travels from Earth, past Saturn and Beyond in Seconds
Feat
So given that Dr. Slump follows the Schematics of the IRL Solar System. When comparing the IRL distance of Earth to Venus (256.86 million km) to Dr Slumps Earth to Venus (4 Billion Km). Dr Slumps E to V distance is 15.5726855096 times greater than that of IRL E to V and already greater than IRL Earth to Saturn distance. To get an accurate idea of the Earth to Saturn Distance of Saturn, then given Dr Slumps E to V is approx. 15 times greater than IRL, then Dr Slumps Earth to Saturn would be approx. 15 times greater than IRL Earth to Saturn; which would make it : 1.4049 billion km (IRL Earth to Saturn Distance) x 15.5726855096 = 21,878,065,872.4 Km.
So Gatchan and Turbo travelled a Distance from 21,878,065,872.4 Km and then flew past other planets beyond that in a few seconds


Speed Feat 7:
Arale travels from Earth to Pluto in Seconds
Feat 1
Feat 2
As already seen in the Scans, the distance between Dr. Slump's Earth and Venus is 4 billion Km. IRL Distance between Earth and Pluto is 5.1733 billion km and IRL Earth and Venus is 256.86 million km. The Distance between IRL E and P is 20.1405434867 times greater than IRL E and V. Using this comparison logic and applying it to Dr, Slump since Dr. Slump still uses the IRL schematics of the Solar System.... Dr. Slump Earth from Pluto Distance would be 20.1405434867 greater than Dr. Slump Earth from Venus distance which consequently would be 80,562,173,946.8 Km. So Arale and travelled a distance of 80,562,173,946.8 Km in a few seconds.
Btw the Way we know Pluto is the last Planet Arale passed because the Japanese Kanji for Pluto is used

Speed Feat 8:
Arale travels across Solar Systems in Seconds
Feat 1
Feat 2
"God" resides in an area outside of the Solar System and views the solar system (from his house) as a Star. Arale travelled from this Star, which represents the Solar System, outside the Solar System and to God's Place. According to NASA official website, The inner edge of Solar System could be as close as 1,000 AU from our sun and the outer edge is estimated to be around 100,000 AU. One AU is the distance from the sun to the Earth, which is 149.07 million km. Arale travelling outside of the scope of the solar system would mean she at least travelled across 1000 AU (149.07 Billion km) to at most 100,000 AU (14.907 trillion km) in a few seconds

Speed Feat 9:
The AoE of this Blast quickly encompasses a Starry Sky in no time Flat
Feat

Speed Feat 10:
Obotchaman flies a Plane from the Mortal Realm directly to the Afterlife Airport
Feat 1
Feat 2
This needs to take in consideration the size of DB's Macrocosm to calculate and how fast obotchaman would have to be travelling to fly a plane from Earth to the Afterlife.

Speed Feat Extra:
Spaceship moves across 3.4 million light years in a few seconds
Feat 1
Arale and other's are capable of actively perceiving and reacting to the movement speed of a Spaceship at its maximum output. At it's maximum output, the Spaceship was able to travelling a Distance of 3.4 Million Light Years in Seconds.

 

[Ss3micah]

As topic. Anything related to Dr. Slump.

Including the follows:
Possible feat discovery.
Possible cosmology discussion.
Dr. Slump in different media.

Alright Jason
I had to watched through QUITE ALOT of episodes in order to find more feats and abilities and after compiling them all, I am here to present. I will be posting these Feats in 3 Parts that will cover three categories. These being AP, Speed and Lifting Strength. I will post them one at a time, and for now I'll start with Part 1 of 3, THE AP FEATS

AP Feat 1:
Arale Busting Earth
Feat 1
Feat 2
As you should know by now and I and others had previously covered, the Dr. Slumps earth is massive. It has a Circumference of 4 Billion Km which makes it even more massive than the sun and comparable in size to some of the Largest stars recorded in IRL Human History. (Fun Fact: Dr. Slump's Earth would be even bigger than the Red Super Giant Star ANTARES).
Now given that Arale has feats of effortlessly busting the Planet time and time again.... I'm gonna guess that this feat would Calc up to AT LEAST a High End 4-C Feat to a High 4-C Feat (and possibly 4-B). This is just an assumption on my part. I'll leave the Calcing to you so we can know for sure.

AP Feat 2:
Nikochan Technology Busting Mars
Scan
Feats
In this compilation file mark Feats, you will see a Green Alien using a machine to completely destroy the Red Planet which is Mars. Now, Mars is smaller than Earth (even in Dr. Slump) but this Feat is mostly for those who would scale below Arale but relative or above the Nikochan's Machine.
And as Mars is albeit smaller, still relative to the size of Earth. If we use IRL Logic to assign an appropriate size, then just as how IRL Mars' Circumference (21,344 km) is APPROXIAMTELY half the size IRL Earth's Circumference (40,075 km), then Dr. Slump's Mars' Circumference would be approximately half of Dr. Slump's Earth's Circumference, that value being approximately 2,000,000,000 Km. I'm assuming we'll get a calc that ranges from at least a high end 4-C feat to a High 4-C Calc for this as well for this Feat.

AP Feat 3:
Arale and Gatchan's Busting Asteroid
Feat
Arale can casually one-tap (Super Giant Star Sized) Earth with no difficultly. Here Arale actively tries, WITH INTENT, to Bust this Meteor, unleashing a flurry of punches to no Avail. She (along with the Gatchan's) then collectively blast this same asteroid (which can withstand Arale's Super Giant Star Busting Punches without a scratch) to bits, leaving not a trace behind. I'm assuming this will be an EASY High 4-C Feat up to possibly Solar System Feat that would scale to Arale's and Gatchan's Blast Attacks

AP FEAT 4:
Obotchaman busts Mega Moon
Scan
Feat
You know this Feat by now. A High End Feat. Obotchaman easily eclipses the Mega Moon which Severely DWAFRS the already Massive Size of Dr. Slumps earth. I'm assuming an AT LEAST High 4-C Feat up to Solar System Level Feat

AP Feat 5:
Arale cracks the Sun
Scan
Feat
Similar to the principle of IRL Earth being bigger than IRL Mars, Dr. Slump also keeps the principle of the Sun being Bigger than the Earth. IRL, the Circumference of the Sun is 4.379 million km in comparison to the Earth which only has a Circumference of 40,075 km. If we play a little game of math then dividing the Sun's Circumference from the Earth's Circumference would leave us with a value of the Sun being approximately 109 times larger than the circumference of the Earth. Dr. Slumps Earth and Sun would also adhere to this logic, making the Sun of Dr. Slump approximately 109 times larger than the Circumference of Dr. Slump's Earth; in other words your looking at the Sun being roughly around 436 Billion Km in Circumference (easily outclassing the UY Scuti's (Largest Star EVER RECORDED) Circumference of 7.5 billion km). The Dr. Slump Sun easily Dwarfs the Dr. Slump Earth as well in two cases, Arale has been able to Crack the Sun. The first time when she sent 001 CRASHING into the Sun at top speeds and the second time She deliberately cracked the sun herself. Easy High 4-C feat and likely 4-B feat as well.

AP Feat Extra:
Pig Shatters Starry Night Sky (with several stars)
Feat
Mr. Pig easily and casually Shatters the Starry Night sky and causes lots of Stars to Collapse. Im gonna ssume this is gonna be an at least High 4-C, 4-B or even 4-A feat.

That does it for the AP category
Please do the Calculations and inform me when your done so I can send you the next set; that being the speed category
Appreciate your time and support

Hey Jason
Before I post the speed scans, can you please confirm you have seen this message please?

 

[Fireld]

AP Feat 2:
Nikochan Technology Busting Mars
Scan
Feats

There're feats non-related to Mars posted there like Arale cracking the Earth+Moon, Mashirito's tech perfectly slices the Earth & God wipes out an alien planet. Kinda impressive how before God destroyed that planet, continet-sized explosions were happening on that its surface and caused no visible damage yet God destroyed said planet with no problem.
So say if the new bigger planet sizes get accepted, would this affect the DBZ scaling?

 

[Ss3micah]

There're feats non-related to Mars posted there like Arale cracking the Earth+Moon, Mashirito's tech perfectly slices the Earth & God wipes out an alien planet. Kinda impressive how before God destroyed that planet, continet-sized explosions were happening on that its surface and caused no visible damage yet God destroyed said planet with no problem.
So say if the new bigger planet sizes get accepted, would this affect the DBZ scaling?

Hey Fireld, been a while since I last spoke with you lol

Anyways I have already spoken to other staff and they say the Dr. Slump earth size is usuable. The statement came from a reliable source and was well within the context of the episode so of course they are usuable.

As for your question Regarding Dragonball....
Do you have a discord address so we can continue talking there?

Feat 1
Scan 1
Feat 2

 

[Quasar002]

Alright
Time to comment

1. Earth is approximately 6371 km in radius.
Earth is 149,598,023 km away from the sun
Venus is 108,208,000 km away from the sun, making Earth at least 146.26 million km away from Venus and most 257,806,023 km from Venus.
2. In Dr. Slump revealed that Earth is 4 Billion km away from Venus and that it's the same amount of distance needed to circle the earth at least once.



We should accept the statement as valid because:
It is an inverse statement that comes from a knowledgeable Dr. Slump character and there is a specific context in which the statement is given and the information is applied accordingly. It is not a random throw-away moment but rather a specific moment that ties into the plot of the episode.

The old guy is a PROFESSOR name Umashika and he is doing an interview and explanation at NASU Space Center for a Rocket Launching and Travelling through SPACE that will be a monumental moment in Human History.
Senbei was Sleeping and Woke Up at the sound of his name

This statement when accepted would make Dr. Slump's Earth far bigger than our RL Earth. Therefore any geography would need to be reshaped to adapt to such a data set in the statement.

What is the episode number?