Downgrading Hunter X Hunter | Flawed Calculations and More

[CountGracula]

Introduction:​

I've already made a thread about the speed calculations, so I thought "Hey why not do the same for strength and durability", because there's a lot here as well. So just like the speed one, I will be covering every feat individually, and see if I can't find a new way of scaling.

The Calculations and their problems​

Killua Tanks an Explosion
One of the two durability calculations mentioned on the verse page (Seriously, the verse page needs more stuff on it) is Killua tanking a Chimera Bombardier Beetles' fart explosion. First and foremost, Killua wasn't actually at the epicenter of the explosion and so he wouldn't have taken all of the energy that was released, he even had time to block the attack. There already is a calcluation for that, which puts the energy tanked at around 9.4 Tons of TNT (Large Building+). So at minimum that should be changed, but in all honesty I don't think the original calc is usable at all, purely based on the fact that the explosion in question was from a Bombardier Beetle, and not a stack of TNT.

The current formula used is calculating the energy based on an explosions shockwave and its overpressure in bars. The problem being that a Bombardier Beetle's...shall we call it "Explosive release" doesn't actually create a shockwave like that, nor does it create a fireball, it's only high temperature gas released at a rapid velocity, which is quite obvious when we look at the explosion in color. Since it's gas it would also explain why the explosion looks so much bigger the further out it goes, because the gas is just dispersing. The gas/smoke is also going upwards, which also makes it look larger than it actually is.

This is even more obvious when actually looking at the damage the so called 20 Tons of TNT explosion actually made.

Uvogin Tanks a Super Bazooka
This calculation is calculating the energy needed to turn someone into ash from 10 metres away, which the explosion didn't actually do. It's true that some corpses closer to Uvogin in one panel are no longer there in the next, and you could certainly say this is turning them to ashes, personally I just think Togashi was a little inconsistant with their location, but even if we do say that they were turned to ash, they weren't even close to 10 metres away. One calc has already tried to do it with a more conservative distance, coming out at around 17 Tons of TNT, but even this is a bit of a highball. Looking at the next panel, there are bodies even closer than the other calc guessed. I tried my hand at calculating it just to show (Using Uvo's height of 2.58 metres) and got it to around 4.67 Tons of TNT when using the same formula.

What now?​

When it comes to strength calculations there actually are a few feats and calculations that are still perfectly fine for characters and you could always keep the Uvogin feat, even though it is quite a bit weaker.

Silva Kills Cheetu
This feat has been calced once before at around 23 Tons of TNT, though there seemed to be some disagreements on both the method and also scaling from Zeno's height instead of maybe Silva himself. It should still come out at around low City Block or Large Building+ either way.

Chrollo's Sun and Moon:
Chrollo's final explosion attack against Hisoka was also calced at around 22 Tons of TNT here, this would serve as somewhat of a cap for Hisoka tier characters, since he technically did survive the explosion point blank. But even here there seems to be some debate as to its validity, though I can't seem to find a consensus on it, so do with that what you will.

Uvogin's Big Bang Impact:
The most destructive attack Uvogin ever did, his Big Bang Impact, was calced at 47 and 57 Tons of TNT. Though I heavily disagree with the assumption that Uvo was not operating at full power, as the situation wasn't at all similar to his 1v1 with Kurapika. This would work as a scaling tool, since Kurapika easily handled a punch from 20% Uvogin who would be around 9.4 or 11.4 Tons of TNT depending on which version of the original calc you use, so either Large Building+ or Low City Block, perfectly consistant with the other feats in the series.

Extra:
I also have a vague memory of someone calculating Gon's Greed Island Jajanken that shook a tree and got it to around Large Building Level, which would scale to characters like Chimera Ant Arc Killua who oneshot Rammot, who previously survived a Jajanken + Thunderbolt combo from them both.

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

Recently finished this masterpiece of a series and I agree that the ap scaling has been a little off on the profiles. The bombadier ant calculation shouldn't even be used in the first place as it's not even a proper explosion but a release of boiling hot liquid in the direction of killua; In fact the trees directly behind killua are still intact in the manga when it shows the aftermath of this supposedly hundred meter wide explosion. The sun and moon explosion is also pretty off as just by looking at the panel you can see the hole made is not pulverized at all. This is compounded by the fact that the explosion didn't even completely reach Hisoka as it was explained that the puppets cushioned the blow and he instead suffocated. I'm not 100% sure how the bazooka explosion calculation is being determined but you are indeed correct that assuming that it vaporized every body in the radius without any proof is pretty odd. In fact I would say it's more likely that the bazooka just launched the bodies away from Uvogin after it impacted him. The manga seems to imply this by their being smoke trails coming out the back of the explosion. There are still quite a few other feats in the manga that to my knowledge haven't been calculated but the results of which seem to line up way more with the building to low city block level results your proposing. They are:

• Silva's destruction orbs destroying a large section of a opera hall and seemingly shaking the entire skyscraper they are in
• Greed Island Gon destroys a decent chunk of ground in order to trap Genthru
• Razor completely destroying a small boat with one of his spikes
• Neteros first hand pulverizing a large portion of ground
• Feitan heating a large area up to the point of ignition ( Good ole thermodynamics)
• Bonelenov's Jupiter ( I think this one has actually already been done)
• The super bazooka was mentioned to be able to one-shot a tank so whatever that is
• Gon violently fragments a large rock during Greed Island training

I believe those are all the major destructive feats in the series. What do you think?