(Downgrade god tier) Momoshiki and Kinshiki Downgrade

[Bunnyandtiger]

from this

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2286211#7

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2286211#20

This content has been accepted and agree by many people.

So may be a good

We will downgrade momoshiki to 7-A.

• momoshiki

Tier: At least 7-A, likely higher, up to 5-B with Takami Musubi no Kami | 5-B

• kinshiki

Tier: At least 7-A, likely higher. Low 5-B with forbidden power

kinshiki and momoshiki can't resist the power of the kage, so them is a 7-A


momoshiki

-prevent sword of darui

kinshiki

-chojuro + Kurotsuchi Stronger than him

 

[AstralKing7]

The content wasn't accepted. People only agreed with non 5B Base Naruto. They didn't understand the reasoning behind disagreeing with it.

The Kage don't scale to Kinshiki nor to Momoshiki. Those feats were completely PIS. Kinshiki was able to constantly fight Sasuke who was using chidori blade against him.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I think they're waiting on the a recalc for the moon feat to scale those people to, rather than 5B.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

The content wasn't accepted. People only agreed with non 5B Base Naruto. They didn't understand the reasoning behind disagreeing with it.

The Kage don't scale to Kinshiki nor to Momoshiki. Those feats were completely PIS. Kinshiki was able to constantly fight Sasuke who was using chidori blade against him.

Agree, plus all of their feats extremely disagree.

• Casually One Shotting KB
• Pressuring Enhance SPSM Naruto
• Fighting Sasuke in h2h who has the strength to One Shot the Kages easily with his strikes.

As I explained in my thread, which apparently, nobody actually read my posts, Unless you have a Chakra Cloak or otherwise stated or portrayed to be like 3rd Raikage, you aren't tanking cutting / piercing attacks, snd this has been shown consistently throughout Naruto.

So, this topic can be dismissed.

 

[Bunnyandtiger]

ok but kinshiki stronger than madara but not stronger than Hiramekarei

So we should add Hiramekarei sword profile

Hiramekarei Tier: 5-B

Hiramekarei >> kinshiki >>> Sword's sasuke >> madara

Durability's kinshiki Comparable to Sasuke's Susanoo ( Survived an Bijuudama that can one-shot naruto same as sasuke)


Kinshiki is able to punch the sasuke's sword.(Kinshiki stronger than Sword's sasuke)


Can not tank sasuke's sword (Sword's sasuke stronger than madara)


Survived the Sasuke's sword chidori power that can cut madara Easily without taking any serious damage


Chidori Stomp madara


Survived an Bijuudama that can one-shot naruto , Comparable to Sasuke's Susanoo

 

[Bunnyandtiger]

• Kinshiki

Tier: At least 5-C, likely far higher.(stronger than madara) Low 5-B with forbidden power

• Reason

1. stronger than madara and hagoromo

2. Is one of the people who are kaguya to afraid

3. blitzed sasuke, have enough power to go head-to-head against a naruto Six Paths Sage Mode and sasuke

and gaara and darui Should upgrade via power-scaling.

gaara

Tier: 8-A, higher with Partial Transformation | 7-C | 7-A | 7-A | 7-A | 5-B

via power-scaling. from chojuro and Kurotsuchi

darui

Tier: 7-C | 5-B

via power-scaling. from chojuro and Kurotsuchi


Is one of the people who are kaguya to afraid

 

[Bunnyandtiger]

* Conclude

1. Upgrade Gaara to 5-B via power-scaling. from chojuro and Kurotsuchi Kurotsuchi

2. Upgrade Darui to 5-B via power-scaling. from chojuro and Kurotsuchi Kurotsuchi

3. Downgrade kinshiki to Tier: At least 5-C, likely far higher.(stronger than madara) Low 5-B with forbidden power ( stronger than madara,hagoromo and hamura) Comparable to kaguya


And momoshiki and naruto base is Tier: At least 7-A, likely higher, up to 5-B with Takami Musubi no Kami | 5-B (absorb kinshiki)

4.update profile naruto to Tier: At least 7-A, likely higher and Downgrade momoshiki to Tier: At least 7-A, likely higher, up to 5-B with Takami Musubi no Kam

( Comparable to naruto base)

 

[LordGriffin1000]

First of all, None of the 5 Kage are becoming 5-B and Relativistic speed. That's complete and utter wank beyond anything.

Second, your Kinshiki scaling makes no sense to me. We currently rate Madara and Hagomoro at 5-B. If Kinshiki was stronger than them (Which I don't believe he is) he would be 5-B, not 5-C.

Lastly, I'm pretty sure this wasn't accepted. The scaling would be off as hell if we did this your way.