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Dovahkiin 2-A Content Revision

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Weapons capability to kill things =\= ap

But I will wait until I see more people chime in. I dont remember skyrim that much tbh
 
I mean, Magnus is a Multiversal+ being, and the arrows temporarily kill him. Even if this is just one of Magnus's specific weaknesses, the Dovahkiin still shoots his arrows from Mundus to Aetherius.
 
I think that the Dovahkiin being 2-A with arrows would be extremely inconsistent with what's presented in the story as his status compared to Daedric Princes and the Aedra.
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
Could we possibly give the weapon itself a 2-A rating?
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I think Likely 2-A or Possibly 2-A fits here.

And I guess I am fine with the Dohvakin having a Likely/Possibly 2-A rating with this weapon.

But I am kinda with galaxian, it is inconsistent. So Possibly better fits.
 
Well, I agree. Though, I mean, you can just kill Magnus as many times as you wish, and it's an essential part in the story. Though, I understand what you guys mean. Can someone make the change?
 
Well does it actually kill Magnus though? Because the sun is a hole into Aetherius that Magnus created when he left Mundus, but it's not Magnus himself. Magnus would be with the other divine beings that made it out in Aetherius.

So do you have a statement from a book or scan where it states that it's killing Mangus or we could logically infer as such?
 
Well, that hole was created by the Magna Ge, but the light, being the "Sun", that would be Magnus, and the source of all energy, all Magicka in Aetherius, Oblivion, Mundus. Whether or not it actually kills him or not, which I can't seem to find but remember recalling, it's still blocking out a Multiversal+ source of energy, and you can do this on Nirn, in the Soul Cairn, and in Sovngarde. The Arrow would be blocking out Magnus, and there is also another arrow where light from Magnus rains upon the target when shot at.
 
Gwynbleiddd has regrettably left the wiki, as has Sheoth, so we are short on people knowledgeable about TES at the moment. Azathoth might be able to help out, if you politely ask him to comment here though.
 
However, can Auriel's bow not only be used against Magnus within Mundus, where he is extremely weakened? From what I remember of the game, it did never seem particularly powerful in practice.
 
I dont think it did anything significant. Also, if it is only temporarily, it has done a very bad job of killing a 2-A being. I am personally fine with it being 'Possibly 2-A', I think that best fits. But just a '2-A' rating is setting aside all the inconsistencies the weapon has tbh.
 
I did some quick research and I've confirmed that the sun is only the hole that Magnus created when he left Mundus.

While you can temporarily close the hole with the arrows, there are other holes made by the other et'Ada that the energy from Aetherius can come through meaning that you haven't completely cutt of magic from Mundus. Also characters can continue to use magic after this is done in game.

The arrows are never stated to harm or endanger Magnus nor any of the other Aedra. Thus, I don't think that the arrows and bow do anything to warrant that kind of tier.
 
GalaxianAegis said:
I did some quick research and I've confirmed that the sun is only the hole that Magnus created when he left Mundus.

While you can temporarily close the hole with the arrows, there are other holes made by the other et'Ada that the energy from Aetherius can come through meaning that you haven't completely cutt of magic from Mundus. Also characters can continue to use magic after this is done in game.

The arrows are never stated to harm or endanger Magnus nor any of the other Aedra. Thus, I don't think that the arrows and bow do anything to warrant that kind of tier.
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Did it damage the sun? Might warrant a 4-C tier? Maybe I am misunderstanding something, skyrim is the one I know least out of the tes games.
 
@Kinkiest https://youtu.be/rnMeV3ip83M?t=23s You can see here what it does in gameplay. It blocks off the sun so that vampires can walk around without being weakened during the day.

I don't think that you could make it 4-C since it isn't really a star that's being affected. It's more or less a hole in reality where energy from Atherius pours though.
 
GalaxianAegis said:
@Kinkiest https://youtu.be/rnMeV3ip83M?t=23s You can see here what it does in gameplay. It blocks off the sun so that vampires can walk around without being weakened during the day.

I don't think that you could make it 4-C since it isn't really a star that's being affected. It's more or less a hole in reality where energy from Atherius pours though.
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Then it would probably best fit as Unknown then... I dont think this is an ap feat But I will wait until Azazoth responds, I think he might prove or disprove this theory
 
Understandable responses, but you can also block out the Sun in Sovngarde. There is no hole in Sovngarde, so would it not be Magnus that the Arrow is hitting, and not just blocking out the hole he made?
 
Sovngarde is in Atherius as well, and it seems more like gameplay mechanics that the Bloodcursed Sun Arrows would be effective there. There's not a sun to be affected there conventionally like there is in Mundus.
 
no... just no... I don't even have to explain it... so much is wrong with 2-A dovahkiin for doing that. The sun is just a wormhole, not actually magnus itself. on the other side of what you see is Magnus... you do nothing to Magnus, you just create a blockage so light cant exactly get through. however magic and conceptual things of Mundus can get down there.

if you want a full scale explanation PM me on my wall.
 
Antvasima said:
Gwynbleiddd has regrettably left the wiki, as has Sheoth, so we are short on people knowledgeable about TES at the moment. Azathoth might be able to help out, if you politely ask him to comment here though.
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you have me though!!!
 
I agree with SITHISIT.

Also, thank you for the help.
 
I've have and played the Dawngaurd DLC and I always thought you where just blocking out the sunlight with dark magic for a few minutes and boom the darkness fades and the sun shines again
 
Auriels bow is actually 2-A, however what you see in the game, that is just an infinitesimal fraction of what it truly is, you only get what would be just putting your tongue on an ice cream cone for half a second and then directly taking your tongue off in terms of the power it holds.
 
So, should we close this thread?
 
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