DORAEMON IMMEA

[WilliamXJoe]

Introduction

1. Doraemon and the gang witnessed the formation of the Big Bang from an extremely dense and hot state.



2. Following the observation of the Big Bang, Doraemon and the gang swiftly traveled to a distant future where the first generation of star clusters was being formed.

(https://gyazo.com/6c4735d8a95041f539266b098ba5198c)

The reason I assert that Doraemon rapidly travels through time to the future is explained within the manga itself. It states that "Three minutes after the Big Bang, helium was created, while hydrogen atoms were formed 10,000 years later."

(https://gyazo.com/c05440aa04d26b0a3aa876d9a7cc7157)

3. Doraemon mentioned, "In a long time, star clusters were created." In the field of cosmology, the initial generation of star clusters developed around 100 million years after the occurrence of the Big Bang through gravitational processes of elements like hydrogen, helium, and a small portion of lithium.

(https://webbtelescope.org/contents/articles/what-were-the-first-stars-like.)

4. The depiction of Doraemon soaring forward and journeying extensively until the formation of Earth and the solar system is shown. The establishment of Earth and the solar system occurred roughly 9 billion years after the Big Bang.

(https://gyazo.com/5412ecaae354bf95398bd75acc6fe40c)

5. Doraemon and his companions effectively traverse time to the future, witnessing the progression of the universe's expansion and development over an extensive period.



Immeasurable speed is a speed that cannot be measured in any time frame (transcendent) and cannot be defined using the normal speed formula, because T (time) is not measurable.

Which means Doraemon with immeasurable speed can get out of linear time, the connotation of getting out of linear time is by definition Doraemon can go to a certain point in time (future), this means Doraemon will consider moving in the temporal dimension to be the same as moving in the spatial dimension so that Doraemon can reach the point another time physically (sheer speed)

(https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed)

 

[Sayuki_Mikaru]

I think it looks good, but I'm leaning towards speed travel.

 

[WilliamXJoe]

I think it looks good, but I'm leaning towards speed travel.

Thank you for your opinion

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I personally think treating this as time travel as opposed to Immeasurable speed sounds more accurate.

 

[WilliamXJoe]

I personally think treating this as time travel as opposed to Immeasurable speed sounds more accurate.

Why? he did it only with sheer speed, not with a tool or anything

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I know, but even then. I agree with AKM sama about characters having "Immeasurable via running through time" is just someone having time travel via physical abilities. It's a common ability in fiction where people can travel forward or backward in time just from running laps around the earth or flying through space to witness the big bang. And that characters in question happen to stumble in those areas through sheer flight/movement. I know based on what's currently common in other profiles, this would be similar to the "Immeasurable via running through time", but there have been voices of plans to revise all of those. Just saying, not entirely arguing against being able to travel through time via sheer movement.

 

[Antvasima]

If this would be very inconsistent with otherwise displayed speed levels for these characters, I also agree with time travel instead of immeasurable speed.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Even if the feat is indeed Immeasurable [according to the current (and outdated) standards, it is, but as already mentioned, it is likely going to be revised], it's a terrible outlier and should be ignored, they have no feats that's even close to the speed of sound, let alone Immeasurable

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Idk the context behind those manga panels , as far as i remember, Doraemon has 2 major gadgets which help him travelling in time, one is time machine and another is time belt, while even using them won't allow to have immesureable speed, and i personally think this has to be a simulation which Doraemon created to show the birth of the universe to them.