Does infinite size 4D object 5D or still 4D ?

[Lilixa]

Does infinite size 4D object 5D or still 4D ?

Bonus question, does object larger than infinite size 4D object can be considered 5D ?

btw i am asking based on mathematical formalism and realism standpoint. Term like "qualitative superiority" does not make any sense in mathematics.

 

[Flashlight237]

What am I reading here?

 

[ImmortalDread]

I don't know, I am trying to figure out what he is trying to say.

 

[Arceus0x]

Don't think either qualify for 5D.
If our physical universe (specifically universe, not timeline) is infinite, then it won't be 4D because it doesn't just magically gain another axis. Same goes for 4D. In fact, timelines are considered infinite and any section of a timeline is already considered 4D, just not tier 2 for whatever reason. So infinite 4D isn't 5D, no, it's just infinite 4D.

Bigger than infinite isn't 5D by default either since you need clarification on how much bigger than infinity it is

 

[ImmortalDread]

Don't think either qualify for 5D.
If our physical universe (specifically universe, not timeline) is infinite, then it won't be 4D because it doesn't just magically gain another axis. Same goes for 4D. In fact, timelines are considered infinite and any section of a timeline is already considered 4D, just not tier 2 for whatever reason. So infinite 4D isn't 5D, no, it's just infinite 4D.

Timelines are by default tier 2.

 

[Arceus0x]

Timelines are by default tier 2.

yes but specific sections of them being destroyed isn't tier 2

 

[Lilixa]

Don't think either qualify for 5D.
If our physical universe (specifically universe, not timeline) is infinite, then it won't be 4D because it doesn't just magically gain another axis. Same goes for 4D. In fact, timelines are considered infinite and any section of a timeline is already considered 4D, just not tier 2 for whatever reason. So infinite 4D isn't 5D, no, it's just infinite 4D.

Bigger than infinite isn't 5D by default either since you need clarification on how much bigger than infinity it is

well in mathematics i think there is rule that said it's not possible bigger than infinity still infinity. So i would assume bigger than infinity would automatically gain another axis because that is only way to become bigger than infinite size 4D object

 

[ImmortalDread]

well in mathematics i think there is rule that said it's not possible bigger than infinity still infinity.

This is wrong

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

yes but specific sections of them being destroyed isn't tier 2

Kind of weird tbh

 

[Lilixa]

This is wrong

well i think it's on continuum hypothesis or something like that.

 

[Arceus0x]

Kind of weird tbh

ikr

 

[Lewis]

In mathematics, we resemble a dimension 1 with notation R (real line) to express all possible unique coordinate points that's conceivable by tuple, which has the quantity of set of all real numbers or being aleph-1 sized (as if a point in space-time can be define by decimals, being "natural line" with just aleph-0 quantity wouldn't make sense). Each point on the line is corresponded to dimension 0, or well known as a location. The line reserves reality, thus everything describable by shape and size would operates under its influence. To put it simply, 1-dimensional space is equated to R, and higher dimension is just a multiplication of lower dimension subsets— R^3 = (RxRxR) implies 3-dimensional space or a multiplication of uncountably infinite 0-D to 1-D, 2-D to 3-D for a glance. Now, aleph-2 sized space would mathematically exceeds standard geometric space constructs, since multiplying the lines wouldn't ever reach the quantity of aleph-2; likewise, composing it together as mathematical model of space-time wouldn't make it nearly aleph-2 either. In short term, a line formed with uncountably infinite points (0-D).

 

[Arceus0x]

well in mathematics i think there is rule that said it's not possible bigger than infinity still infinity. So i would assume bigger than infinity would automatically gain another axis because that is only way to become bigger than infinite size 4D object

bigger than infinity varies.
You can add to infinity any finite number or even an infinite number and it is still infinity.
What does affect tiering is the "qualitive superiority" which people like talking about but in reality it is a difference the size of an uncountable infinity. The way to achieve that infinity via math is alephs. An infinite timeline for example is an aleph-1 amount of 3D snapshots of the universe. To reach Low 1-C you could have an aleph-1 amount of infinity-sized timelines. This doesn't work byond 5-D though afaik according to our rules.

 

[Lewis]

In mathematics, we resemble a dimension 1 with notation R (real line) to express all possible unique coordinate points that's conceivable by tuple, which has the quantity of set of all real numbers or being aleph-1 sized (as if a point in space-time can be define by decimals, being "natural line" with just aleph-0 quantity wouldn't make sense). Each point on the line is corresponded to dimension 0, or well known as a location. The line reserves reality, thus everything describable by shape and size would operates under its influence. To put it simply, 1-dimensional space is equated to R, and higher dimension is just a multiplication of lower dimension subsets— R^3 = (RxRxR) implies 3-dimensional space or a multiplication of uncountably infinite 0-D to 1-D, 2-D to 3-D for a glance. Now, aleph-2 sized space would mathematically exceeds standard geometric space constructs, since multiplying the lines wouldn't ever reach the quantity of aleph-2; likewise, composing it together as mathematical model of space-time wouldn't make it nearly aleph-2 either. In short term, a line formed with uncountably infinite points (0-D).

the smallest possible skip in size after the set of countably infinite number of universes or tier 2-A is the set of uncountably infinite number of universes, that is, equivalent to tier Low 1-C (Basically having uncountably infinite 4-D structures, which would result you with 5-D structure according to Real Coordinate Space, and the Generalized Continuum Hypothesis following up with few formal statements). So, yeah, being strictly larger than 2-A structure let alone would already be sufficient for tier Low 1-C in this case

 

[ImmortalDread]

well i think it's on continuum hypothesis or something like that.

This is still wrong, there are bigger infinities.

 

[Lewis]

But the context in which you describe infinity has different meanings.

 

[Lewis]

But the context in which you describe infinity has different meanings.

In math and science subjects there are also different uses of omega. which it depends on which one you choose to use,

 

[ImmortalDread]

Can you stop duplicating posts? Write them all down in one.

 

[Lilixa]

bigger than infinity varies.
You can add to infinity any finite number or even an infinite number and it is still infinity.
What does affect tiering is the "qualitive superiority" which people like talking about but in reality it is a difference the size of an uncountable infinity. The way to achieve that infinity via math is alephs. An infinite timeline for example is an aleph-1 amount of 3D snapshots of the universe. To reach Low 1-C you could have an aleph-1 amount of infinity-sized timelines. This doesn't work byond 5-D though afaik according to our rules.

o yea this one. there are Countable Infinity and Uncountable Infinity.

 

[Lewis]

Can you stop duplicating posts? Write them all down in one.

Boo.

 

[Fixxed]

Does infinite size 4D object 5D or still 4D ?

Still 4D

Bonus question, does object larger than infinite size 4D object can be considered 5D ?

Well dont know, but i will say no. I dont know if you just make finite or limited the infinite will make you higher infinite

If that object is in infinite size, i think it can be 5D. Because that object make infinite 4D structure a infinitesimall thing compare to it

 

[Arceus0x]

o yea this one. there are Countable Infinity and Uncountable Infinity.

yep, so it all depends on these higher degrees of infinity

 

[Lewis]

Do I have to tag " Kowalski," for those who don't know? He is my Thai friend.
Copy and paste bra bra ~~

 

[Lewis]

I just know how to give good answers to people. will make people jealous and gossip in discord.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Your still spamming? The OP got his answer.

 

[Lewis]

The OP got his answer

Where?

 

[Lilixa]

Do I have to tag " Kowalski," for those who don't know? He is my Thai friend.
Copy and paste bra bra ~~

sure. More rigorous info is always welcome

 

[Lilixa]

Your still spamming? The OP got his answer.

it's fine dread

 

[Magicomethkuon]

the smallest possible skip in size after the set of countably infinite number of universes or tier 2-A is the set of uncountably infinite number of universes, that is, equivalent to tier Low 1-C (Basically having uncountably infinite 4-D structures, which would result you with 5-D structure according to Real Coordinate Space, and the Generalized Continuum Hypothesis following up with few formal statements). So, yeah, being strictly larger than 2-A structure let alone would already be sufficient for tier Low 1-C in this case

*Important to underline the part about larger than the 2-A structure as a whole. Because something like "(Infinite Universes A + Infinite Universes B + Infinite Universes C)" is bigger than the baseline 2-A Infinity but would still be tier 2-A. A baseline 2-A would destroy it all in three blows. Now if said 2-A destroyed the dimensional equivalent of the "(_____)" which can hold endless examples of Infinite Universes, only then has the character transcended.

 

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