does DB still qualify for Low 1-C under the new standards?

[Robo432343]

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[BestMGQScalerEver]

no it needs to be downgraded to wall level pronto

 

[Robo432343]

 

[Robo432343]

i think neutral zone might be getting upgraded

 

[Ednaxel2]

Hypertimelines seem untouched from what I know

 

[Hasty12345]

Should be, but since the timeline split new blogs need to be made for each continuity.

 

[Vietthai96]

No, cause under new standard, the verse is 1-A

 

[Robo432343]

Should be, but since the timeline split new blogs need to be made for each continuity.

i have a question
you know how it says in the blog that the RoSaT is stated to have a different dimension of time?

why does that also mean a higher dimension of time?? it says different, not higher

 

[Hasty12345]

i have a question
you know how it says in the blog that the RoSaT is stated to have a different dimension of time?

why does that also mean a higher dimension of time?? it says different, not higher

the higher timeline is the one that encapsulates the multiverse which includes that different dimension of time.

Put simply and perhaps a tad inaccurately, the multiverse is low 1-C because it's a timeline of 4D objects.

 

[Robo432343]

the higher timeline is the one that encapsulates the multiverse which includes that different dimension of time.

so encompassing a place that has a different dimension of time gets you 5-D?

why does time moving differently in the rosat make it a higher time dimension is what im tryna say

Put simply and perhaps a tad inaccurately, the multiverse is low 1-C because it's a timeline of 4D objects.

isn't a timeline of 4D objects still 4-D???

 

[Hasty12345]

Might have to wait for someone else, I am having trouble putting my thoughts to paper here.

A timeline is 4D because we treat it as uncountably infinite 3D universes. DB is like that but has uncountably infinite 2-C universes due to the higher timeline.

 

[BlackeJan]

No, cause under new standard, the verse is 1-A

What u talking bout. What got changed?

 

[Robo432343]

Might have to wait for someone else, I am having trouble putting my thoughts to paper here.

A timeline is 4D because we treat it as uncountably infinite 3D universes. DB is like that but has uncountably infinite 2-C universes due to the higher timeline.

yes but what im trying to understand is why its a higher timeline even though the scan just says its a different dimension of time

 

[Vietthai96]

Average Robo moment, but anyway that statement is but a small part of the entire argument, it is there to prove that, each dimensions are in fact possesses their own separate time dimension, which mean they are 4d object on their own, which mean the timeline, which holding these dimensions, possess it own higher time axis

 

[Robo432343]

Average Robo moment,

hey...thats enough.

 

[Gasper]

All this "hyper-timelines" nonsense sounds like fan wank to try to make their verse seem more impressive than it really is.

 

[Robo432343]

bro im confused ash
why are timelines assumed to be infinite in length if there is no evidence for that?? not in db, just in general

 

[Gasper]

bro im confused ash
why are timelines assumed to be infinite in length if there is no evidence for that?? not in db, just in general

Exactly. People are looking for scientific explanations for fictional characters and verses that never took stuff like that into account in the first place.

 

[Robo432343]

All this "hyper-timelines" nonsense sounds like fan wank to try to make their verse seem more impressive than it really is.

hypertimes are something that we made up

 

[Robo432343]

Average Robo moment, but anyway that statement is but a small part of the entire argument, it is there to prove that, each dimensions are in fact possesses their own separate time dimension, which mean they are 4d object on their own, which mean the timeline, which holding these dimensions, possess it own higher time axis

bro i want to talk to you about something

you know these scans right?
Zeno quotes that everything's gone.

Old Kai mentions that Zeno erased all the future in that parallel world forever.

the problem is, one of the things that Trunks asked Bulma was, "we also want to go back to the future but...is it still possible for us to go back to the time before Zamasu and Dabura show up?"

and then Whis straight up says, "of course its possible"

this literally implies thank Trunks' timeline did not in fact get erased in its entirety, mainly just the future was affected...and if you go back to that scene where Zeno was floating in nothing, thats essentially where the future stops. But what beings proposed is that future trunks go back to their own timeline before Dabura and Zamasu show up. If you recall, the Dabura and Zamasu stuff where Zamasu and Goku black terrorize the future, it only occurs in Future Trunks' timeline. That's the only timeline in which he goes terrorizing and that is confirmed in the manga where Toyotarou decided to map out how the timelines and time travel stuff worked.

gasp

Zeno saying that everything is gone straight up gets proven wrong by Whis when he says its possible to go back to their own time before Dabura and Zamasu show up. This is even shown in the anime where Whis talks about going to a point in that time to talk to another Whis to warn him about goku black showing up and making sure that supreme kai doesn't get killed and that beerus doesn't get killed and then tell beerus to take care of goku black

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

bro i want to talk to you about something

you know these scans right?
Zeno quotes that everything's gone.

Old Kai mentions that Zeno erased all the future in that parallel world forever.

the problem is, one of the things that Trunks asked Bulma was, "we also want to go back to the future but...is it still possible for us to go back to the time before Zamasu and Dabura show up?"

and then Whis straight up says, "of course its possible"

this literally implies thank Trunks' timeline did not in fact get erased in its entirety, mainly just the future was affected...and if you go back to that scene where Zeno was floating in nothing, thats essentially where the future stops. But what beings proposed is that future trunks go back to their own timeline before Dabura and Zamasu show up. If you recall, the Dabura and Zamasu stuff where Zamasu and Goku black terrorize the future, it only occurs in Future Trunks' timeline. That's the only timeline in which he goes terrorizing and that is confirmed in the manga where Toyotarou decided to map out how the timelines and time travel stuff worked.

gasp

Zeno saying that everything is gone straight up gets proven wrong by Whis when he says its possible to go back to their own time before Dabura and Zamasu show up. This is even shown in the anime where Whis talks about going to a point in that time to talk to another Whis to warn him about goku black showing up and making sure that supreme kai doesn't get killed and that beerus doesn't get killed and then tell beerus to take care of goku black

Have you actually seen the work?

The time ring represents the timeline and it was destroyed

Former Supreme Kai says that Zeno'oh erased all future in that parallel world forever

Goku, Bulma, and Trunks mentioned that the entire future was completely erased

Goku mentions to Trunks that he cannot recover that timeline, as Zeno'oh had erased everything and Goku also mentions that it is possible to create a new timeline.

You're absolutely wrong, that world no longer belongs to Trunks, so much so that Whis mentions there will be two Trunks in the world and two Mai

Right here we have a very detailed explanation about the parallel world of DB and it explains the following thing

So in Dragon Ball, the future where the Androids run rampant and the one where they're defeated are actually completely separate universes?

Prof. Futamase: That's right. If you successfully travelled to the past then attempted to return back to the point in time you started from, the universe you arrive to would not be your original one, but a parallel world where you had travelled to the past. You'd essentially be in a new universe with a different history.

That future where Trunks is going is not the same place that Trunks lived, after that world was completely erased and there is another parallel world

Official Dragon Ball website saying Zeno erased the entire timeline, do you still have any doubts?

The heroes fought valiantly in an arduous battle, but the immortal Zamasu remained undefeated even after his body was worn down by Vegito's relentless onslaught and rent asunder by a final swing of Trunks' sword. When hope was all but lost, Goku had the idea to call upon the lord of all universes, Zeno, who then erased not only Zamasu but the entirety of Trunks' future timeline from reality.Trunks had lost his home, but with hope in his heart he decided to use the time machine to travel to a new future timeline before Zamasu's terrible plot took place and try once more to create a peaceful world.

I strongly recommend you see the entire work, as its information is very out of line.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

All this "hyper-timelines" nonsense sounds like fan wank to try to make their verse seem more impressive than it really is.

How nice of you, but we are entirely at the disposal of the vsbtles system, this was only achieved through vsbtles itself, our merit.

But thanks for the compliment, I'll keep that.

 

[Robo432343]

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bro if Zeno truly erased everything then this wouldn't have been possible
all of what you sent straight up gets contradicted by this scan

what i think Zero erased when he said "everything" is that he is talking about the contents of the entire timeline itself is gone. thats why when you look at the scan, there is a blank canvas because there is nothing there. BUT, if you go back to a different point in time in that same timeline, you'd be able to go somewhere that actually has substance, where you can stand there, where there is material and there is people.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

bro if Zeno truly erased everything then this wouldn't have been possible
all of what you sent straight up gets contradicted by this scan

Dude, did you really see what i said? It is mentioned, every future has been erased, Trunks is going to another parallel timeline, it is not that same timeline, but another

what i think Zero erased when he said "everything" is that he is talking about the contents of the entire timeline itself is gone. thats why when you look at the scan, there is a blank canvas because there is nothing there. BUT, if you go back to a different point in time in that same timeline, you'd be able to go somewhere that actually has substance, where you can stand there, where there is material and there is people.

What content what? Didn't you see the mentions??? Or are you playing with my face?

 

[Gasper]

How nice of you, but we are entirely at the disposal of the vsbtles system. This was only achieved through vsbtles itself, our merit.

But thanks for the compliment, I'll keep that.

This isn't directed to DB community at all.
GoW, Sonic (I think), MCU, etc supporters use the same arguments as well.

I only brought this up here because it infuriated me for quite some time now and this is the only thread I can really talk about it.

 

[LordDestroit10K]

Zeno saying that everything is gone straight up gets proven wrong b

 

[Robo432343]

i was looking for this scan
TY

why is Zamasu spelt incorrectly

 

[Ednaxel2]

i was looking for this scan
TY

why is Zamasu spelt incorrectly

Zamas is just his name in short. He’s called Zamas a couple times

 

[Huesito88]

This isn't directed to DB community at all.
GoW, Sonic (I think), MCU, etc supporters use the same arguments as well.

I only brought this up here because it infuriated me for quite some time now and this is the only thread I can really talk about it.

I mean then it's not doing a good job lol, since not many can actually qualify for it.