Doctor Strange vs Jean Grey (3-2-0)

[RoTt35]

Doctor Strange Supreme vs Jean Grey (Post-Retcon)​

I don't really have high hopes for this match but it seems interesting to me

Match Rules: Speed is equalized and both are in-character, Post-Fusion Doctor Strange Supreme and Host of the Phoenix Force Jean Grey are being used, starting distance of 100 meters and the battle takes place in the Dark Dimension

Doctor Strange Supreme: 3

Jean Grey: 2

Inconclusive:

 

[RoTt35]

Bump

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

And...Doctor Strange Supreme resists atomization

He also consistently abuses the Time Stone and absorbs his opponents

You're right for not having high hopes lol

 

[RoTt35]

And...Doctor Strange Supreme resists atomization

Yeah, Jean's atomic deconstruction is resisted but she also has other options such as Class Y TK and mind hax with more layers than Strange's resistance, and both are thought based

He also consistently abuses the Time Stone and absorbs his opponents

His absorption only has a range of a few meters and if I remember correctly he needs to make a hand movement to activate the Eye of Agamotto, and he doesn't spam it by the way as he never used it when he fought with his counterpart and against Infinity Ultron he used it just to counter his Time Stone

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Yeah, Jean's atomic deconstruction is resisted but she also has other options such as Class Y TK and mind hax with more layers than Strange's resistance, and both are thought based

Strange Supreme has interdimensional range, and he can attack his opponents from that range (he sensed and dragged in his counterpart from across an interdimensional distance)

That reminds me, he also has BFR

His absorption only has a range of a few meters and if I remember correctly he needs to make a hand movement to activate the Eye of Agamotto, and he doesn't spam it by the way as he never used it when he fought with his counterpart and against Infinity Ultron he used it just to counter his Time Stone

The reason why he didn't use it is because it would've been useless. Ultron resists the Time Stone due to having his own

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Actually his BFR range in this key is 2-A

 

[RoTt35]

Strange Supreme has interdimensional range, and he can attack his opponents from that range (he sensed and dragged in his counterpart from across an interdimensional distance)

That's just via Summoning, it doesn't scale to his other magical attacks

That reminds me, he also has BFR

With the Sling Ring, that he wouldn't be able to use it as he would be immobilized by Jean's TK (Class Y LS)

The reason why he didn't use it is because it would've been useless. Ultron resists the Time Stone due to having his own

He didn't use the Eye against his counterpart anyways, so he wouldn't use time manipulation as his first move

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

With the Sling Ring, that he wouldn't be able to use it as he would be immobilized by Jean's TK (Class Y LS)

They start 100 meters from each other so he already has an advantage what with his ESP

Which brings me to my next point...

That's just via Summoning, it doesn't scale to his other magical attacks

2-A portals, dude

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Also I'm fairly certain he didn't use the Time Stone against his counterpart because he didn't wanna risk accelerating the process of the timeline being eradicated before he reversed the Absolute Point

That alongside the fact that he didn't use it against Ultron for it would be useless and the fact that he otherwise abused it as much as possible lead me to believe he's gonna use it liberally

 

[RoTt35]

They start 100 meters from each other so he already has an advantage

Jean has a range of hundreds of meters with her TK, and she can easily sense and locate him with her telepathy

2-A portals, dude

And? 2-A range is only with portals, his interdimensional range is just via summoning, his absorption only showed a range of a few meters

Also I'm 99% certain he didn't use the Time Stone against his counterpart because he didn't wanna risk the universe being eradicated before he reversed the Absolute Point

He used it to travel with his counterpart at the time of Christine's death just before the fight

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

And? 2-A range is only with portals, his interdimensional range is just via summoning, his absorption only showed a range of a few meters

You included things I didn't even mention when I said "2-A portals"...

 

[RoTt35]

You included things I didn't even mention when I said "2-A portals"...

I am not understanding you. You mentioned that Strange has interdimensional range, I clarified that that is just via summoning and doesn't scale to his other magical attacks like his absorption, which only showed a range of a few meters. And regarding the 2-A portals, I already clarified that Strange has to make a hand movement with the Sling Ring, which he would not be able to do because he would be immobilized by Jean's TK

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Her TK is gesture based. Literally every scan of her using TK shows her doing it with gestures

Most of Strange's moves by his lonesome included a bunch of summons (spawning portals on the enemy which of course can alternatively be used for BFR). Or using his tentacles and or dragons on the opponent, and those can cross a hundred meters in a flash. He also has his counterpart's abilities such as instant teleportation which is huge here, and can lead to him appearing right next to her and absorbing her (shit he can teleport her as well). And he can turn into Jean's shadow

Jean's TK ofc holds him in place but gets countered by the above. In fact, her opponents can still move their hands unless she specifically paralyzes them (restraining someone's movements completely isn't usually her go to anyway, she'd rather atomize them), and even then he can get out with teleportation. Her mind manipulation is intimidating but I personally think any of the above options come out first (she usually starts with her gesture-based TK anyway) and of course one-shot Jean

This is a quick-draw match and I personally think Doctor Strange Supreme takes it

He gets my vote

 

[RoTt35]

Her TK is gesture based. Literally every scan of her using TK shows her doing it with gestures

Her powers are based on telepathy, Jean is a psychic. Yes, sometimes she makes gestures when she uses her TK but it doesn't mean that she necessarily has to make a hand movement to use it

Most of Strange's moves by his lonesome included a bunch of summons (spawning portals on the enemy which of course can alternatively be used for BFR)

He never used it in combat so this is pointless

Or using his tentacles and or dragons on the opponent

Strange needs to use a hand movement to activate that, he can't if he's paralyzed

and those can cross a hundred meters in a flash

Not faster than Jean's SoL attack speed, besides being thought based

He also has his counterpart's abilities such as instant teleportation which is huge here, and can lead to him appearing right next to her and absorbing her (shit he can teleport her as well).

DSS never used that, and if I remember correctly the main Strange only used it once with Thor and it wasn't even in combat

In fact, her opponents can still move their hands unless she specifically paralyzes them (restraining someone's movements completely isn't usually her go to anyway, she'd rather atomize them)

No? Jean always uses her TK along with her deconstruction when she is fighting without holding back or without being mentally unstable. Strange only has average LS and Class T with his tentacles, he can't do anything against Jean's Class Y TK

she usually starts with her gesture-based TK anyway

Again, no? Jean against Apocalypse used a combination of TK, mind hax and deconstruction, against the D'Bari she didn't use her mind hax because they can resist her telepathy, unlike Strange

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

He never used it in combat so this is pointless

Ah yes he never spawned a portal to sic enemies on someone...oh wait he did

Also you seem to not have realized I was referring to her TK and deconstruction as the same thing lmao

 

[RoTt35]

Ah yes he never spawned a portal to sic enemies on someone...oh wait he did

My bad, likewise Strange wouldn't be able to do that since he would be immobilized, plus Jean's TK is faster and thought based

Also you seem to not have realized I was referring to her TK and deconstruction as the same thing lmao

They are different hax however, her deconstruction (matter hax) was bestowed by the Phoenix Force

 

[RoTt35]

Bump. If there aren't more arguments for Strange I will vote for Jean due to her thought based Class Y TK with SoL attack speed and her mind hax with more layers than Strange's resistance

 

[ShionAH]

Strange FRA

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Jean’s go to is just all of her hax in one attack so mind hax FRA

 

[ThanatosX]

Mind Hax is not her first move, that would most likely be TK. However, from what I remember this Strange is able to use the Time Stone without needing hands movements since when he used it against Ultron he opened it with a thought. If he get restrained by TK I don't see why he wont use the Time Stone to stop her.
Voting Strange, for now.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Yeah it is. When Jean goes all out, she uses TK, matter hax and mind hax in one go like against Apocalypse and stomped him. It’s already been pointed out above that she doesn’t use mind hax against the D’Bari in DP because they resist it and she knows that. Strange can resist matter hax all he wants but mind hax negs him.

 

[RoTt35]

If he get restrained by TK I don't see why he wont use the Time Stone to stop her.

Jean uses her TK and mind hax at the same time, the moment Strange is restrained he will also be mentally attacked

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Jean Grey FRA

 

[RoTt35]

This is a stomp now because Doctor Strange has 4D mind hax resistance

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

This is a stomp now because Doctor Strange has 4D mind hax resistance

Oof, never mind then