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Ditto VS Ditto (0-0-0)

AceOfSpaces3709

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Hey, it’s been a while- I know, this match idea is super creative and original but I thought I’d give it a go, so anyway...

Omniverse Ditto is used,

Pokémon Ditto has time to transform,

Starting distance is 10 m,

Speed is equalized,

and the battle takes place outside Garou’s hut in the S-City Nature Park

Both Ditto’s AP is 176.42 Megatons of TNT

The Ditto that copies:
The Ditto that multiplies:
Garou appears, copies, and kills them both:
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JustANormalLemon said:
Yes, but sinse Ditto alien could do first (sinse Ditto pokemon still need to transform) the alien will be able to create more clones faster them Ditto pokemon
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OP specifies Ditto had time to transform also imposter
 
... let's start again

Ditto alien has previous time to duplicate?

If Ditto alien can start the battle alread cloned, he mostly likle wins by outnumbering

If Ditto alien dosn't have time for It, they will always have the same numbers, them It would go to ben knologe of his alien strenghs and most importantly weakness to win the battle, Don'tknow Ir would be enough to not be a incon
 
this is Original Series Ben 10 Ditto?

Pokemon Ditto stomps due to being Low 7B in base. He doesn't even need to transform

Not to mention Quick and Bright powders boost his stats even more
 
even if Ditto's tier is exactly the same as the other Ditto, Pokemon Ditto's Bright and Quick powders instantly neg the clone advantage that Ben 10 Ditto hassine all of Pokemon Ditto's clones will gain the benefits of the items
 
Mickey1940 said:
even if Ditto's tier is exactly the same as the other Ditto, Pokemon Ditto's Bright and Quick powders instantly neg the clone advantage that Ben 10 Ditto hassine all of Pokemon Ditto's clones will gain the benefits of the items
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And quick powder literaly just work before he transform :V and impostor kinda makes It irrelevant
 
Mickey1940 said:
Metal Powder still works even after transforming
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You are correct, but he can only hold one at a time

Mickey1940 said:
Except Ben 10 Ditto can't touch untransformed Ditto due to Low 7B dura, and then after Pokemon Ditto transforms, he just bodies due to stronger clones
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He is just 50% more durable, that will be not even a 2 times advantage

Let's look the battle like this

Ditto starts to transform

While ditto start to clone

Now we have 1 Ditto vs 2 Dittos

This mean ben 10 ditto will have always the number advantage
 
JustANormalLemon said:
You are correct, but he can only hold one at a time


He is just 50% more durable, that will be not even a 2 times advantage

Let's look the battle like this

Ditto starts to transform

While ditto start to clone

Now we have 1 Ditto vs 2 Dittos

This mean ben 10 ditto will have always the number advantage
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First of all, Pokemon pages are treated as them owning both Abilities AND all items listed at their disposal

Second of all, they clone themselves at the same rate
Having 1 or 2 extra clones doesn't really matter in the long run when thousands of clones end up coming out throughout the course of the fight
If every single one of Pokemon Ditto's clones are 50% more durable, then they will have a significant advantage in the long run
 
JustANormalLemon said:
And ditto has no atacking moves without transforming, so what is your point?
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Struggle technically but ditto actually has stamina listed and given how ditto can transform into Pokemon like Kangaskhan, Falinks, and Exeggcute I think it can just transform into both other ditto
 
Lou_change said:
Struggle technically but ditto actually has stamina listed and given how ditto can transform into Pokemon like Kangaskhan, Falinks, and Exeggcute I think it can just transform into both other ditto
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I'm almost sure struggle is a fully game mechanics move sinse we don't considere PP cannon

And pokemons that are multiple pokemons are a diferent situation sinse they atr tecnically part of a single creature, kinda like having Siamese twins

not to mention impostor would make Ditto start to transform while there is only one ditto in the field
 
JustANormalLemon said:
I'm almost sure struggle is a fully game mechanics move sinse we don't considere PP cannon

And pokemons that are multiple pokemons are a diferent situation sinse they atr tecnically part of a single creature, kinda like having Siamese twins

not to mention impostor would make Ditto start to transform while there is only one ditto in the field
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that means that Ben 10 Ditto no longer has the clone advantage

meaning Pokemon Ditto wins even harder
 
Mickey1940 said:
Ditto's lowest floor is Pikachu level who is Low 7B, as written at the bottom of its profile
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False, Ditto's Tier is Unknown and only gains the stats of the thing it turns into, considering that Alien Ditto at the time scaled to 10-B (technically he's 7-A right now considering Alien Ditto recently got two keys and considering that I didn't mention a specific key, it's automatically assumed by reason of SBA that Alien Ditto is in his strongest state which is his Omniverse key) game Ditto's stats would also be 10-B

Also you're argument that "Ditto just stonewalls" is completely invalid considering Ditto has had numerous matches against characters who's tiers are drastically beneath Low 7-B (like She Hulk, Peter Griffin, Tighten, Sans, Carnage, Stain, Imposter, Brandon Breyer, and Thunder McQueen just to say a few)
 
AceOfSpaces3709 said:
False, Ditto's Tier is Unknown and only gains the stats of the thing it turns into, considering that Alien Ditto at the time scaled to 10-B (technically he's 7-A right now considering Alien Ditto recently got two keys and considering that I didn't mention a specific key, it's automatically assumed by reason of SBA that Alien Ditto is in his strongest state which is his Omniverse key) game Ditto's stats would also be 10-B

Also you're argument that "Ditto just stonewalls" is completely invalid considering Ditto has had numerous matches against characters who's tiers are drastically beneath Low 7-B (like She Hulk, Peter Griffin, Tighten, Sans, Carnage, Stain, Imposter, Brandon Breyer, and Thunder McQueen just to say a few)
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  • While inside the game it can transform into any Pokémon and copy exactly the stats, powers, attacks and appearance except the HP of the opponent, it is argued that Ditto rarely transforms into an opponent weaker than itself in combat. It is suggested that thread starters state the starting level/tier of Ditto. For reference, the current tier of Pikachu (one of the most notable starter Pokémon) is at most Low 7-B. If the thread starter wishes to set the floor tier of Ditto, he should state that in the starting thread and Pikachu will be the floor tier. However, the ceiling tier of Ditto should limit to the tier of Mew is 5-B.
Ditto's floor is Low 7B, and his ceiling is 5B
 
Mickey1940 said:
Imposter allows Pokemon Ditto to automatically transform without even performing an action to do so, leaving no time for Ben 10 Ditto to generate extra clones before Pokemon Ditto does too
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he start tranforming isttantly, the transformation It self still takes time trough
 
JustANormalLemon said:
he start tranforming isttantly, the transformation It self still takes time trough
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Ben 10 Ditto still only has time to create an extra clone or 2 before Pokemon Ditto follows suit. All of Pokemon Ditto's clones are stronger so having an extra clone doens't really do much
 
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