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Paulo.junior.969 said:
How did they fight? Were they punching each other out, or using their abilities?
Also, Xenoverse/Online/Heroes dragonball goes around multiversal
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Dio Brando vs Jiren
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How did they fight? Were they punching each other out, or using their abilities?
Also, Xenoverse/Online/Heroes dragonball goes around multiversal
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Yobobojojo said:
Kars kinda has like shitty durability (not even planet level). How did Dio get Universal+ AP if that's the case?
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Dio FRA
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Jiren don't have ultra instinct -_-Errorsaness said:
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Locked actually.Yobobojojo said:
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Locked yet accepted. Made the crt months ago.
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Without Passion (the name of the Beyond), Dio's actually isn't that strong. Unless Dio can copy Jiren's genes, he can't win without the Passion, but that's an NLF, so I'm saying Jiren wins. Although, Dio could still regenerate from a drop of blood, that's still an NLF because we don't know his limit in Regenerationn.
What? Passion is Jonathan's stand. Beyond is entirely different.
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So Dio only has country+ level AP when hax doesn't count. For Dio's hax to work he has to get past Jiren's barrier.
Dio hasn't shown any physical durability that can get past the barrier so he should lose this.
Dio hasn't shown any physical durability that can get past the barrier so he should lose this.
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No, Dio is universal+ in AP physically without hax for trading blows with Kar's who is universal+ in DB and AP as well(just the profile isn't updated yet). So yeah Dio would get past the barrier pretty easily.
Also, Dio doesn't even have hax that is universal+ in AP
Also, Dio doesn't even have hax that is universal+ in AP
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The tournament isn't even over and people are already doing a vs battle. Just relax people. Jiren didn't even show his full power jet.
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the battle gets taken off their profiles or redone if Jiren gets better abilities or if he turns out to be a higher tier at full power after the tournament which isn't unlikely, so don't be too worried about Jiren being matched up even when the tournament isn't over.
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Calculations need evaluation. Then gonna ask.DMUA said:
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I Vote Jiren He broke a time cage while still supressed
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I'm not voting for anyone, but I will point out Hit's time skip and cage did seem to cover the entire world of void, so that's high universal range and he was planning on holding it for at least 20 mins and only broke due to Jiren's "raw power", not quite as good as an hour but still more than just a few secs
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Tyranno223 said:
Even if Hit's time cage covered the World of Void, it's still a High 3-A feat. Dio's time stop is Low 2-C. So I'm still voting for Dio, even though I love Dragon Ball.
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DMUA said:
That's an unfair claim. Source?
Pretty sure they affected everybody. Everybody was seing Hit teleport out of nowhere.
Hit's time skip doesn't even last one second, so there's no way there's any evidence people were moving during that time period from such a short time (anime cannot afford that much time-lag).
Also, 1:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifBtSjnMjGU
Jiren breaks through space-time just by punching.
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Stryk3r1337 said:
Hit has different time-stop abilities.
His range should also be larger than Dio's considering Dragonball has 12 universes. His more powerful time-stop abilities are also able to affect people who have resistance to time-stop.
Hit has 3 variations of Time Stop, each one better than the other.
1.) Dio's The World > Hit's Time Stop
2.) Hit's Improved Time Stop >/= The World
3.) Hit's Time Stop that he used against Jiren > Dio's The World
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Hit's ts can't affect people with strong enough resistance. Goku and Jiren resisted because their resistance is >>> Hit ts.
Dio's TS can stop an entire universe even in his canon form. JJ Dio is LEAGUES above his counterpart, including his TS.
Dio's TS can stop an entire universe even in his canon form. JJ Dio is LEAGUES above his counterpart, including his TS.
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Jiren CAN'T move during a ******* hour while time is stopped, just for a few seconds.
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Can't you just send us the scene where Hit says he is Time Stoping the entire World of Void to prove your point?
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JJBA time hax =/= DB time hax.
Every JJBA time abilities have been shown to affect the whole universe, so its better to assume Diavolo works the same way.Diavolo isn't an exception just because he wasn't stated or shown to do so.Besides even if it wasn't his time skip range would still be pretty far for being able to affect Giorno, Mista, Narancia, Fugo, and Abbacio despite not being anywhere near them.
Every JJBA time abilities have been shown to affect the whole universe, so its better to assume Diavolo works the same way.Diavolo isn't an exception just because he wasn't stated or shown to do so.Besides even if it wasn't his time skip range would still be pretty far for being able to affect Giorno, Mista, Narancia, Fugo, and Abbacio despite not being anywhere near them.
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And Diavolo's time skip can have this range by itself, since it is erasing "10 seconds of time"
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That was a different ability. That was not even a time skip ability, that was just Hit hiding in a small dimension (notice how Goku still moves) Goku admits it was different. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3sr7oJ3bMIDMUA said:
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Dio while having his soul destroyed, half dead (closest he could get), crippled still tanked universal destruction with no visible fatigue.
Dio can timestop Kars (well only initially). May have stopped her once, not sure.
Dio can timestop Kars (well only initially). May have stopped her once, not sure.
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Bump
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We'll have to see Jiren's full power before making decisions like these. What we know currently is that he is unquantifiably above baseline Low 2-C in his already suppressed state which isn't enough info to make a decision.
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Yet so is Dio. Unless jiren is 2-B. The fight still the same.
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