Digimon Scaling Revision Thread

[PaChi2]

If you think this may help: we could number ranks (1 being strongest and whatever the last number would be) and place people in there.

That way you dont need to remake the scaling and just move people from position A to position B.

Dunno.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

How is that a perfect example when Susanoomon + Valdurmon is I don't think ever mentioned with Chronomon?
where's Darkdramon or Valdurmon + BanchouLeomon is outright stated in the databook to be Chaosmon's natural evolution.

Because, it's directly shown and required to even get Chronomon in Dawn/Dusk? And the fact that Chronomon doesn't even have a Databook Entry?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Either way, I'll wait for Ex. If he disagrees with me, I'll happily leave it be.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I apologize if I was being too aggressive.

 

[MugenRyu]

When was it ever shown? as far as i know their is nothing that has stated or hinted that they jogress into Chronomon in his lore.

Where's Chaosmon, Omegamon, Ogudomon and Milleniumon have their natural evolution outright stated in their databooks and are consistent.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

You mean other than the fact that these two are the only canon evolutions before Lost Evolution and that that's the only way to get him in DW/DK. Also what databook does Chronomon have? Also Ogudomon does not have a statement of him being a fusion in his databook.

 

[PaChi2]

Either way, I'll wait for Ex. If he disagrees with me, I'll happily leave it be.

Inb4 Ex shows some obscure statement that puts the warrior ten above everyone

 

[MugenRyu]

Were they brought up to even be his canon evolutions? I just can't help but doubt on putting him above them until a more solid connection is brought up.

I'm very sorry for being stubborn and if i'm getting on your nerves over this chicken.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

He had no canon evolution brought up. We have only been going by what was given to us as Chronomon had Susanoomon and Valdurmon as his only canon evolutions. (Evolutions in the games are indeed canon. We just don't use them all due to files becoming ridiculously wanked if we did. Nearly every Digimon would have Chrono Breaker if we did because damn Clockmon gets around)

My points are:

-Susa and Valdur were the only evolutions Chronomon had for two whole years. Compared to someone like Alphamon who has consistently had DoruGreymon or Grademon as a pre-evo for nearly every appearance with Clockmon just being a consistent evolution and required twice. And of course, this was after Alphamon had an establish evolution line while for Chronomon, this was the first and only evolution for 2 years before Butenmon became a thing.

-Both Chronomon and Susa have very similar feats (destroying the network)

-Chrono is a bird like Valdur and both are probably tasty when cooked. ovo

-All 3 are Holy Digimon.

-Butenmon only appeared 2 years afterward and only appeared as Chrono's evolution again 2 years after its first appearance.

 

[MugenRyu]

I still can't say I agree with it but I'm just gonna drop it until Ex comments about this. Could we not talk about the DS game scaling until then?

Honestly am exhausted over talking about the mega ulta chicken. :/

 

[MugenRyu]

Again, I am really sorry about this whole thing.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I mean...if you have an issue. Bring it up. We want accuracy. If people get downgraded, big deal. It's our job to take care of all of this and handle all nooks and crannies....Also we have no Next 0rder pages......

 

[MugenRyu]

Well to be fair, their are only like three Next Order characters that deserve profiles imo, that being the protagonist, shouma and Mameo.

I shit you not, the only feat I recall the guy with a ******* Gallantmo does was barely defeating a group of fodder Digimon such as MetalGreymon and Megadramon...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

How do you underperform when '''GALLANTMON''' is your partner?

 

[MugenRyu]

This Loser somehow does and it's just sad.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I am disappoint

 

[MugenRyu]

Him and Himari (Who has a freaking Magnadramon) as far as is recall don't really contribute much, the protagonist does a majority of the work.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

How do you give someone a Royal Knight and one of the 4 Great Dragons and have them do nearly nothing.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Mameo needed that redesign....

 

[MugenRyu]

He really did... I can't even look at his past design without getting bothered by how huge his hands were...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

While we wait for Ex for the DS stuff, what were the Next 0rder feats?

 

[Executor_N0]

While we wait for Ex for the DS stuff, what were the Next 0rder feats?

I'll just do an analysis of the scale of the characters, when I analyze all the feats and relations between the characters. It's kind of impossible to do this without really analyzing everything.

About N0, as they are always few, but they are good. The biggest of all was the Big Bang that Alter-B would create to destroy all worlds and create a single great world for Shouma / Analogman. In addition it has the Malevolent Fist being able to destroy the Demon World, Belphemon threaten to swallow the Digital World with his darkness if RustTyrannomon despertassee going to destroy several Digital Worlds (Already it had destroyed a Digital World, of a Saint Galgomon, and was going to destroy the Digital World of N0).

The N0 scale is sustained in the post game where it was revealed that nothing before in the game equaled the threat of Keramon (Shoma himself said this, being directly mentioned that Alter-B was nothing comparable to him) and the various other Digimon coming from other Digital Worlds of which it was a danger Alter-B himself attempted to confront them alone.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Why was a Keramon so powerful?

 

[MugenRyu]

Didn't Shoma latter say that the Keramon upon fighting it with the protgonist did not seem to be that powerful tho? It wasn't until it became Diaboromon when he actually thought it was gonna give them a real fight.

 

[Executor_N0]

It was a Digimon coming from another Digital World, for some reason in N0 is treated like Digimon coming from other Digital Worlds were very powerful. The post-game involves the protagonist interacting with these Digimon from other Digital Worlds (He even meets with the Royal Knights, Susannoomon, etc). The post-game is the beginning of that where Shouma and Mirei discover that they had a cluster of Data in the Singular Zone that was a greater threat than anything that had appeared before, that even Alter-B did not compare to that. Then it was revealed that it was a Keramon that was growing to become the spider-scorpion we all love.

After that the entry to the Singular Zone could be used to communicate with Digimon from other Digital Worlds, but they were too powerful to even Alter-B try to face them alone. So basically any post-game character that faces the protagonist scales to Alter-B in a way that "Alter-B does not even compare to them"

@MugenRyo Just because he had not yet seen all the power that Keramon had especially when he evolved into Diablomon and Armagedoomon. He even admits that all credit for the Spider-Scorpio defeat was to the protagonist, that himself still had to get much stronger to get to that level.

 

[PaChi2]

At this pace maybe we end by 2020

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

At this pace maybe we end by 2020 </div>

That's wishful thinking buddy. ovo

 

[Executor_N0]

@MugenRyo Oh, you edited this and I don't read that. Of course, I'm not saying that the Keramon alone is that powerfull, I was speaking about the Keramon through the story, until he became Armageddomon.

 

[MugenRyu]

Just asking this to make sure, any issue with the NO characters post the main story being scaled to Cyber Sleuth?

That's where BoltBoutamon got his Likely High 2-A after all.

 

[PaChi2]

That's wishful thinking buddy. ovo

I beg of you, dont pull a Naruto revision. please ovo

 

[Executor_N0]

They scale to Rina and the Royal Knights, and that is after Cyber Sleuth (Rina is with the Ulforce powers, with she only gains again after Cyber Sleuth).

 

[MugenRyu]

Okay, wanted to make sure I didn't get that wrong.

 

[PaChi2]

Warrior Ten = Ophanimon < Seraphimon = Cherubimon Virtue < Cherubimon Vice < KaiserGreymon = MagnaGarurumon < Powered up Cherubimon Vice << Most Royal Knights = Lilithmon = BANTYO = Darkdramon < Stronger KaiserGreymon = Stronger MagnaGarurumon < Alphamon = Beelzemon = Belphemon = Barbamon = Chaosmon < Examon << Daemon << Lucemon Falldown Mode << Incomplete Susanoomon << Lucemon Satan Mode < Complete Susanoomon = Valdurmon << Chronomon = Digimon World: DS Protag = Grimmon = GAIA Origin = Digimon World: DS SGDL < Dusk/Dawn Chronomon < Sayo/Koh < Yggdrasil

@Ex how accurate is this?

Might I ask why is Barbamon considered = to belphemon?

 

[Executor_N0]

@PaChi2 I can't say anything with trust with myself so far. Mainly because of the Warrior Ten, the Three Great Angels and all involving Sunburst / Moonlight (not counting the final tournament).

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

You think you guys can take the helm for these revisions for a bit. I will read the comments, but I am....tired....

 

[MugenRyu]

Honestly am tired as well.

 

[MugenRyu]

So beside the TGA being equalivent to only a small fragment of his power, where does Lucemon Child fit at? anyone he can scale to?

 

[PaChi2]

So beside the TGA being equalivent to only a small fragment of his power, where does Lucemon Child fit at? anyone he can scale to?

He did stomp 2 RKs.

 

[MugenRyu]

I'm pretty sure he came up out of nowhere and killed them right after they were defeated by a BS powered up KaiserGreymon and MagnaGarurumon.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Lucemon was still in control over them so he was likely still stronger as I doubt Crusadermon would follow anyone weaker than her. Although, Lucemon literally came out of nowhere, one shot the already defeated knights and absorbed their data and Digivolved into Falldown Mode iirc.