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Digimon Scaling Revision Thread
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That would be a specific Astamon is anything.
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Bumping. We need to really start chaining with the feats we know.
Does everyone agree with the Warrior Ten and Ophanimon being literally at the bottom?
Does everyone agree with the Warrior Ten and Ophanimon being literally at the bottom?
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I don't have an issue with it, Also:
Warrior Ten = Ophanimon < Seraphimon = Cherubimon Virtue < Cherubimon Vice < KaiserGreymon = MagnaGarurumon << Leopardmon < tier 5 knights < tier 4 = Four Great Dragon = Soveriegns = Lilithmon = BANTYO = Darkdramon < tier 3 << X-Antibody Knights < Alphamon = Beelzemon = Belphemon = Barbamon = Chaosmon < Examon = Huanglongmon < Lucemon << Daemon = Arkadimon Mega << Arkadimon SU = Lucemon Falldown Mode < Zeromaru (UlforceV-dramon) = Incomplete Susanoomon < Daemon SU << Zeromaru (Future Mode) = Lucemon Satan Mode < Complete Susanoomon
Would this.roughly be more or less the scaling we have thus far?
Warrior Ten = Ophanimon < Seraphimon = Cherubimon Virtue < Cherubimon Vice < KaiserGreymon = MagnaGarurumon << Leopardmon < tier 5 knights < tier 4 = Four Great Dragon = Soveriegns = Lilithmon = BANTYO = Darkdramon < tier 3 << X-Antibody Knights < Alphamon = Beelzemon = Belphemon = Barbamon = Chaosmon < Examon = Huanglongmon < Lucemon << Daemon = Arkadimon Mega << Arkadimon SU = Lucemon Falldown Mode < Zeromaru (UlforceV-dramon) = Incomplete Susanoomon < Daemon SU << Zeromaru (Future Mode) = Lucemon Satan Mode < Complete Susanoomon
Would this.roughly be more or less the scaling we have thus far?
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Yeah.
Now we need to know where to put Gallantmon Crimson Mode, Alphamon Ouryuken, DexDorugoramon, Dexmon, Dorugoramon and Ouryumon
Now we need to know where to put Gallantmon Crimson Mode, Alphamon Ouryuken, DexDorugoramon, Dexmon, Dorugoramon and Ouryumon
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DORUgoramon is above Omegamon, but inferior to Omegamon X-Antibody. Death-X-DORUgoramon is comparable to Omegamon X-Antibody (being able to give a good fight, having chances of victory).
Death-X-mon is superior to Death-X-DORUgoramon and comparable to Alphamon and OUrymon. Alphamon OA would be superior to Death-X-mon.
Death-X-mon is superior to Death-X-DORUgoramon and comparable to Alphamon and OUrymon. Alphamon OA would be superior to Death-X-mon.
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Warrior Ten = Ophanimon < Seraphimon = Cherubimon Virtue < Cherubimon Vice < KaiserGreymon = MagnaGarurumon << Leopardmon < tier 5 knights < tier 4 = Four Great Dragon = Soveriegns = Lilithmon = BANTYO = Darkdramon < tier 3 < Dorugoramon << X-Antibody Knights = DexDorugoramon < Alphamon = Dexmon = Ouryumon = Beelzemon = Belphemon = Barbamon = Chaosmon < Examon = Huanglongmon = Alphamon Ouryuken < Lucemon = Alphamon Ouryuken << Daemon = Arkadimon Mega << Arkadimon SU = Lucemon Falldown Mode < Zeromaru (UlforceV-dramon) = Incomplete Susanoomon < Daemon SU << Zeromaru (Future Mode) = Lucemon Satan Mode < Complete Susanoomon
I put Alphamon Ouryuken in two locations as I don't know whether he'd be comparable to Examon or Kid Lucemon.
I put Alphamon Ouryuken in two locations as I don't know whether he'd be comparable to Examon or Kid Lucemon.
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@Executor I got a question regarding Lucemon Falldown Mode in Savers:Another Mission, I'm not sure about it but I wanna ask to make sure.
Should he be comparable to that of Frontier Satan Mode? Given that he was repeatedly called a Super Demon Lord in the game and he needed all 7 of the code keys to be complete. He also fought all of the DATS members, who had each been futher strengthened by having received all the power of a Demon Lord with one them having gained power from another Lucemon.
Should he be comparable to that of Frontier Satan Mode? Given that he was repeatedly called a Super Demon Lord in the game and he needed all 7 of the code keys to be complete. He also fought all of the DATS members, who had each been futher strengthened by having received all the power of a Demon Lord with one them having gained power from another Lucemon.
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Hard to say. I mean, that's a little confusing because of the mess of interactions in the franchise. So it's something I simply can not answer. I'm planning to create blogs to explain this, but it's something that takes time for me to think. And I still have to finish playing HaMe to get access to all of it content so I can analyze it.
On the scales, there are many things I do not have to say because some equalities do not have an official relationship. Actually I believe that a single scale like this is not enough to explain everything, especially with the scale of Digimon power varying a lot over time.
Some things I can mention are things like Huanglongmon and Examon, I see no reason for them to be put on the same level. Huanglongmon is indeed stronger than the Four Holy Beasts, and they may even win against some Royal Knights, but it's not as if Huanglongmon's power was large enough that none of the Four Holy Beasts could even scratch Huanglongmon, with is which is the relation between the power of Examon and the other Royal Knights.
On the scales, there are many things I do not have to say because some equalities do not have an official relationship. Actually I believe that a single scale like this is not enough to explain everything, especially with the scale of Digimon power varying a lot over time.
Some things I can mention are things like Huanglongmon and Examon, I see no reason for them to be put on the same level. Huanglongmon is indeed stronger than the Four Holy Beasts, and they may even win against some Royal Knights, but it's not as if Huanglongmon's power was large enough that none of the Four Holy Beasts could even scratch Huanglongmon, with is which is the relation between the power of Examon and the other Royal Knights.
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Well, until your blog is made, I want us to have a "solid" scaling chain that we can work with for the time being. Also I will fix the Huanglongmon = Examon bit. I also will add the chain to the OP as well.
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So I just realized how inconsistent Knightmon is...
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What do you meam with that ?
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One second, he's seen as a threat to higher level (mega level) foes and an endgame enemy (Cyber Sleuth) who is worthy enough to serve a Royal Knight and apparently is strong enough of Crusadermon to even consider sending them after EoS MirageGaogamon and such.
Another second, he is only comparable to average Ultimate level Digimon.
Another second, you have to consider how he is the most consistent evolution of Clockmon. But then you have Gladimon who literally looks like a younger Knightmon.
Once again, he's portrayed as only slightly above normal Ultimate Digimon (Perfects)
In Digimon World 3, they are literally invincible to anything you want to do to them.
Knightmon seems to fluctuate a lot form me. That's the only reason he lacks a file. I really don't know where to put him.
Another second, he is only comparable to average Ultimate level Digimon.
Another second, you have to consider how he is the most consistent evolution of Clockmon. But then you have Gladimon who literally looks like a younger Knightmon.
Once again, he's portrayed as only slightly above normal Ultimate Digimon (Perfects)
In Digimon World 3, they are literally invincible to anything you want to do to them.
Knightmon seems to fluctuate a lot form me. That's the only reason he lacks a file. I really don't know where to put him.
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A curiosity, the first time I played Digimon World 3 I did not know what to do with the Knightmon. I spent hours training Digimon to beat Knightmon when I won ... The game gave glitch and I had to start again ... At least my Digimon were trained strong enough to beat any enemy ... Until the next enemy appears which should be "Impossible to win"
Digimon World 3 has this problem, it is full of "invincible enemies", but they are only "Massively too strong for the player level". And when someone struggles to win this challenge ... the game gets full of glitchs OVO (This is at least something that does not occur in Cyber Sleuth, when the enemy is invincible, the damage is really 0).
Digimon World 3 has this problem, it is full of "invincible enemies", but they are only "Massively too strong for the player level". And when someone struggles to win this challenge ... the game gets full of glitchs OVO (This is at least something that does not occur in Cyber Sleuth, when the enemy is invincible, the damage is really 0).
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Yeah, probably should remove that. Only at least 2-A who performed a Low 2-C feat was Grimmon.
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