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Digimon: Possible Three Great Angels and Olympos Xll Upgrade

Dragonmasterxyz

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So this is something I've been wondering, and overall I think it has a 30% chance of going through. Let me begin.

So simply put, I believe the 3 Great Angels and the Olympos Xll characters should gain a 2-A composite stats for a few reasons.

3 Great Angels: Scaling to the Composite Royal Knights.

As we know the 3 Great Angels are God's strongest warriors. However, through a composite it would not make sense for them to be so far below the RK. Now I know that "Doesn't make sense" is not an argument so I'll quote something here.

"The Three Great Angels are the leaders of the angels who bring God's will to the Digital World."

They also are the ones who protect God's domain and are the ones who ultimately are there to protect the Digital World. There is also the fact that the Demon Lords Lilithmo and Daemo are stated to be fallen Ophanimo and Seraphimo .

Lilithmon:

"As a Demon Lord Digimon which has the appearance of a woman, it is one of the "Seven Great Demon Lords". It is thought that it was originally the same kind of Digimon as Ophanimo, but it fell from heaven and eventually became known as the "Goddess of Darkness"."

Daemon:

"A Demon Lord Digimon that leads the many Devil and Fallen Angel Digimon. Like Devimon, Daemon was originally an Angel Digimon, and a particularly high-ranking one. However, because it raged in fury or rebellion, against a being of goodness in the Digital World (perhaps the very human that created the Digital World), it was deleted to the Dark Area (the graveyard of deleted data). It has vowed to one day conquer the Digital World, in revenge against the being of goodness. Also, while it led the rebellion, and was the strongest among the Ultimates.

Seraphimon:

"A Seraph Digimon that is dressed in holy armor that shines silver, and possesses ten golden wings. As the highest-ranked being among Angel Digimon, it rules over them all. Although its true face and personality is hidden behind a mask and cannot be glimpsed, it is the being closest to the "Being of Good" called "God". It is told that when it descends for the final battle against evil beings, it will purify everything. Also, it is said that Daemon, who fell to the Dark Area and became a Demon Lord Digimon, was originally a Seraphimon.

It is also confirmed that the Three Great Angels power is that of a divided Lucemon's.

Lucemon:

"Said to have descended to the ancient Digital World long ago, it is an Angel Digimon which has the appearance of a child. It manifested in an era in which the Digital World was still chaotic, and it is said that it brought about order and harmony. However, because of a later "Rebellion" against Lucemon, it summoned a long period of darkness. Although it has the appearance of a child, the power and intelligence it possesses surpass even that of a Perfect Digimon. It is said that Lucemon's abilities have now been inherited and split among the Three Great Angels.

And as we know the Demon Lords are Multiversal constants.

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The Weakness here is that non of the Angels appear is Cyber Sleuth so they don't get any scaling from there. However, they could perhaps get a composite.

Now for the Olympos Xll.

These guys are harder to justify considering they simply have simple scaling. But here goes.

Simply put these guys may indeed scale to the composite Royal Knights due to a quote in Marsmon's Databook entry.

"One of the enigmatic "Olympos XII", it is a Digimon god of war which has the appearance of a panther-man. The Olympos XII are shadowy beings who possess ability rivaling that of the guardian deities of the Net, the "Royal Knights", and each protects its own domain while maintaining a position of neutrality regarding the incidents which arise in the Digital World."

Sadly this is all I have for them. The only other argument I guess I could make is that they could scale to Sayo's Dianamo ...However, even I find that to be bad logic.

Sorry if I'm am overdoing it with Digimon stuff, however this is something I've had in my mind for awhile and I understand if this is not accepted.
 
Hmm.

Well, the databook implies that the original Daemon was once Seraphimon and the original Lilithmon was once Ofanimon, I can see this. Especially since Seraphimon is literally the executor of God's holy law and Cherubimon guards God himself. Composite Angels would also have Immeasurable speed via power-scaling off of Holy Angemo and Lucemo I believe.

As for Olympos XII, Cyber Sleuth treats Minervamon as "just another Digimon" as an optional boss fight halfway through with no fanfare (though it was a really sweet quest), so I sadly don't think we can scale her to the CS Royal Knights. It's a shame because Minervamon is my second favorite Digimon.

As a side note, I was just about to shoot you a message regarding the Three Great Angels tiering before I saw this. Freaky, but great minds think alike.
 
I agree with the TGA, but I'm not so sure about OT ...

In addition, I think that something that can help Seraphimon's Tier 2-A is his Big Bang, and in relation to the original Big Bang (Maybe in reference to the beginning of God's creation) we know that he had such a power that Would today be able to destroy the barriers between all universes and also destroy all worlds.

Considering that the angels are located in the Kernel that would be God's dwelling I believe that the Seraphimon TGA) Big Bang can be considered as referring to the original Big Bang that apparently is at least 2-A.

Even if this is not approved, I think the scale to Demon and Lilithmon is enough for that.
 
The irony XD

Well while Cyber Sleuth treats Minervamon like another side boss, she is still in her child-like form and thus was not completely serious. But I understand if not accepted. btw wasn't Apollomon in Xros Wars? Maybe that will yeild something for him.

Also what do you guys think of Reality Warping for the Angels?
 
The Olympos Xll just gets blue balled don't they?...Only one who gets the Multiversal treatment is Dianamon XD I hope they catch a break soon.
 
Yes, they are mentioned in by Bandai in the history of the Royal Knights and have their profiles, but little is known about them. Oddly enough, if I am not mistaken, OT members have been fully revealed before all 13 Royal Knights are revealed, but they do not even come close to the treatment the Royal Knights receive from Bandai.

If I'm not mistaken the story that worked most on them was the Crusader (Heroes here) and most of them just appeared to test the protagonist.

Which is a pity, the fight between a world with laws and without laws seemed to me a very interesting idea. I very much hope that the new CS will work the OTs as well as the old CS worked the RKs.
 
That's true the only ones that have had plot importance is Apollomon and Dianamon. And only one of those two are in CS....Hacker's Memory may be their next chance. They need relevance that is not from Koh and Sayo...
 
The Angels scaling seems legitimate. Just not sure about the Olympos XII given their general lack of real exposure in the series as a whole (which really sucks, since I love their designs).

The only ones who get any attention are Mercurymon, Dianamon, Apollomon, Minervamon/Mervamon, and Neptunemon, but even then they're never as a cohesive group.
 
Well, Jupitermon also gained attention in the Digimon Crusader (Pity that the missions stopped being updated in Heroes ;-;)
 
Multiversal+ Big Bang really helps support this. Great find.

Weirdly enough, quite a few Digimon are considered rivals to the Royal Knights, most of which are scarcely treated well by Bandai. Speaking of which, BanchoLeomon is implied to be capable of matching the Three Great Angels:

A Beast Man Digimon which lives faithful only to the "Justice" in which it trusts. It is said that only Digimon who continue to emerge victorious in battles with fierce champions, without their spirit being "broken", are able to acquire the title of "Bancho", and only five Digimon which possess this title have been confirmed in the recorded history of the Digital World. As it is a boss that only serves its own "Justice", if something becomes an obstacle to that "Justice", it will see them as "Evil" even if they are a being like the Royal Knights or the Three Great Angels, and they will become an enemy that it has to eliminate. The "GAKU-RAN" worn over its shoulders is endowed with a defensive function that negates 89.9% of the opponent's physical strikes. Its Special Moves are unleashing its "Shishiraouzan" from its prided tantō, "Otokodama", and releasing a fist packed with fighting spirit honed to its utmost limit (Flash Bancho Punch).
~ Reference Book​
Do we chop that up as an outlier?
 
Yeah. That would be an outlier for the Bancho imo. Plus if we do that we'd have to scale Darkdramon and Valdurmon as well and then Chaosmon.
 
Yeah, but if we scale it to Reference Book Bancho, we'd have to scale it to Darkdramon, who scales to Dukemon, who scales to the RK who scale to over 70 Digimon at least! It be a nightmare to implement such an upgrade. Considering that Reference Book RK feats are all around 3-A, I'd consider it an outlier.
 
While we do the TGA Revisions we need to add the abilities the SGDL's have from Executor's blogs.
 
Translated Olympus XII stuff from their storyline in Digimon Crusader (Digimon Heroes in English):


Chp 1 - þò░þòîÒü«Ú¼╝þÑ×ÒÇüÞÑ▓µØÑ Attach of the otherworldly demon god
- This is a quiet forest that hasn't forgotten peace, even in a war-torn world.
- However, that peace would suddenly come to an end.
- One who calls themselves the 'Demon God' (Ogre God?) brought their subordinates and began to advance upon the land.
- Titamon: I have finally found you, detestable being of judgment...
- Titamon: I'll burn you together with the forest into ashes...!
- Aegiomon: [player], lend me a hand so that we can defeat him [Titamon]!
- Aegiomon: Please! If this goes one, he'll completely destroy the forst!
- Return peace to the forest together with Aegiomon, the kind forest-dweller!
Chp 2 - ÞªÜÚåÆÒü«Õ░ÄÒüìµëï The Guide to Awakening
[Unlock Aegiochusmon]
p1 - õ┐«þÀ┤ Training
- IPdramon PM: You seem to be struggling, child of fate.
- Aegiomon: You're Imperialdramon! Why are you here!?
- IPdramon PM: Save the questions for later. For now, you must focus your thoughts on releasing your power.
- Help to awaken Aegiomon's power, following the guidance of the dragon(s?)!
p2 - µëôÚûï Opening (breakthrough?)
- IPdramon PM: Feel the power that sleeps deep within you, and break that shell open!
p3 - Þºúµö¥ Release
- IPdramon PM: Can you see the power that sleeps deep within you?
- IPdramon PM: You have to release it!
p4 - þÖ║þÅ¥ Discovery
- IPdramon PM: Now that you have released the pwoer within you, it is time that you show that power!
p5 - ÞªÜÚåÆ Awakening
- IPdramon PM: Now that you have shown me your power, it is time for the awakening!
- IPdramon PM: This concludes our training.
Chp 3 - Þ▒èþ®úþÑ×Òü«Þ®ªþÀ┤ The God of Fertility's Trial [fertility/good crop harvest]
- After managing to repel Titamon, Aegiomon takes a short rest.
- However, a huge bird monster suddenly appears before Aegiomon.
- Aegiomon: W-what is that gigantic Digimon...!?
- Ceresmon: I am Ceresmon. A pillar or Olympos who governs over fertility.
- Ceresmon, who identifies herself as one of the Olympos Twelve, starts speaking.
- Ceresmon: This is a trial. Know your fate, Aegiomon.
- The god begins attacking, claiming it to be a 'trial'. Get the truth out of her!
Chp 4 - Þ▒èþ®úþÑ×Òü«þ£ƒÕ«ƒ Truth of the God of Fertility
- Aegiomon battles Ceresmon, who is attacking for what she claims is a 'trial'.
- Aegiomon manages to dodge the god's attacks and finally reaches its body [the big bird part].
- Aegiomon: I managed to make it here somehow...!
- Aegiomon: I have to find its true body and ask about its intentions behind the attack!
- Find Ceresmon's true body before being shaken off [the earth/bird body]!
Chp 5 - ÕàëÒü¿ÚùçÒü«ÞâÄÕïò Light and Darkness begin to move
- Aegiomon begins the awaken the powers within him through the battles he faces.
- While travelling through the wastelands, a Digimon blocks his path.
- Cerberumon: I came to see what 'Aegiomon, the child of fate' was really like, but looks like I expected too much.
- Aegiomon: Don't you think it's a bit rude to say you 'expected too much' when you suddenly attacked out of nowhere?
- Cerberumon: My name is Cerberumon. I am the watchdog of hell.
- Cerberumon JM: You do not understand the powers that sleep within you at all!
- Cerberumon JM: If you are really the child of fate, the prove it[show me the movements (of light and darkness?)]!
- As if resounding to those words, Aegiomon could feel the blood within him boil.
- Aegiomon: What is this..I feel a strong power coming from inside me!
- Release his true power in the fight with Cerberumon!
Chp 6 - Þ╗ìþÑ×Úüèµê» The God of War's Game
[Unlock Aegiochusmon Green]
- Aegiomon was able to evolve into Jupitermon for a short moment.
- However, that effect didn't last long...
- And so, Aegiomon made his way to the colosseum, as if he was being led there.
- Waiting for him was a Digimon with a ferocious fighting spirit.
- Marsmon: I am Marsmon, a pillar of Olympos who governs over war.
- Aegiomon: You are a member of the Olmpos too? That means...
- Heat was overflowing from the colosseum! His chest naturally heated up.
- Marsmon: That's right. This might be sudden, but I'm throwing you a trial right here. Best of luck!
- The tournament held by the god of war wasn't just for entertainment.
- Win your way through the god's tournament, and find out Marsmon's true motives!
Chp 7 - ÕÉ╝ÒüêÒéïþîøþìú þîøÒéïÚçÄþìú Howling Beast, Raging Beast
[unlock Aegiochusmon Blue]
- The impact from a single swing broke the silence of the forest!
- Minotarumon: GWOOOOOOOOOO
- Minotarumon: There you are, Aegiomon! Eat a blow from my Demon Arm!
- The blows from Minotarumon's left arm caused the whole forest to tremble. The forest-dwellers hid themselves...
- Gotsumon: There he is, Lord Mercurimon! It's Aegiomon! ...Huh?
- Gotsumon: Why is Minotarumon here? It's an enemy invasion, Lord Mercurimon!
- Mercurimon: Hm..I just wanted to meet that kid who would change forms according to the situation, but...
- Mercurimon: Perfect timing. You, over there...let us defeat Aegiomon together!
- Minotarumon: Huh? That the heck are you thinking! Aren't you one of the Olympos Twelve!?
- Aegiomon is attacked by the good-evil combo, without a clue as to what was going on.
- Fight and discover Mercurimon's true intentions!
Chp 8 - ÒéñÒâ¬ÒéóÒé╣ÒüïÒéëÒü«ÞäàÕ¿ü The Threat from Iliad
- Aegiomon was tired of the continuous battles.
- Aegiomon: The titans and the Olympos Twelve..why are they aiming for me?
- Aegiomon: Though I can feel myself growing stronger as well.
- A beast! A mythical beast's presence!
- Aegiomon's instincts, which had gotten sharper through the fights, enabled him to sense the bloodthirst of the titans.
- Hippogriffomon: I see, now I understand why Plutomon regarded him as dangerous.
- Hippogriffomon: It'll be dangerous if Aegiomon awakened any more of his evolution abilities.
- Gryphomon: Aegiomon!!
- For the sake of the Digital World: Iliad, we will have you die here now!
- Aegiomon: Iliad? What do you mean? Why do you come after me?
- Gryphomon: That doesn't concern the likes of you, who lives in Yggdrasil's world!
- Gryphomon: Besides...you won't be living much longer!
- Aegiomon glares at the two attacking mythical beasts.
- His resolve is firm. Whatever it takes to end this war...!
Chp 9 - ÚùçÒü½ÕÆ▓ÒüÅõ║îÞ╝¬Òü«Þè▒ The Flower [anemone?] That Blooms in the Darkness
[Unlock Aegiochusmon Dark]
- Aegiomon: Digital World: Iliad? Olympos? The Titans?
- Aegiomon: So if it wasn't for me...this war wouldn't have happened in the first place!
- A flash of purple lightning!
- The abyss is covered...in pitch-black darkness...!
- Aegiochusmon Dark: UGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaa!
- Aegiochusmon Dark: ...need...I...don't need...this...power...!!
- Despair threatened the Digital World...
- However, it would not last long.
- Venusmon: It's okay! I'll do something about it with my holy powers!
- Mervamon: You say that, but you always end up crying 'waah, help me!'...
- Venusmon: How cute, Merva[-chan]! Say that again, say that again!
- Mervamon: Quiet! Stop adding [-chan] to my name! That's why I didn't want to team up with you!
- Mervamon: ...But it is mysterious. Even within this darkness of despair, he is still filled with resolve.
- Mervamon: He has not...completely fallen!
- Aegiochusmon Dark: Ho...me...ros...!
- The concept of good and evil did not exist in the Digital World Iliad.
- What existed was each individual's intent.
- And so Aegiomon understood the other world, the existence of Iliad.
- Venusmon: So he fell into darkness on purpose!
- Mervamon: So it seems...how calculating.
- Venusmon: Alright, let's begin the fight!
- And so, the battle between light and darkness began.
- A mysterious battle, where both sides held no hatred or ill will..!
Chp 10 - ÒâÉÒââÒé½Òé╣Òü«ÚàÆÕ«┤ Bacchus's Banquet
[Unlock Aegiochusmon Holy]
- Aegiomon reflected upon the power of the 'cards'.
- Red, green, blue, purple...encompassing all of creation in the Digital World...
- Aegiomon: I hadn't sought for this knowledge. I did not wish for this power.
- Aegiomon: However, I am left with just one...after this, it will all be over...
- Bacchusmon: Well, you probably don't remember me.
- The strong stench of wine hurt his head, and caused his face to scrunch up.
- However, Aegiomon smiled.
- Aegiomon: No...I remember you, Bacchusmon.
- Aegiomon: How your wine is so strong that its caused lapses in my memory [?]...
- Aegiomon: And also, the reason why you're here.
- Bacchusmon: Gahahaha! Saves me the trouble of explaining, then.
- Bacchusmon: Here, have a glass! Let's have an extraordinary feast!
- Aegiomon: My power is still lacking. However, I only lack this last piece.
- Aegiomon: As a member of the Olympos Twelve, I shall borrow your power.
- Bacchusmon: What are you saying? You're one of the Olympos Twelve as well.
- Noble, divine light covered Aegiomon.
- With that, the last of his power has awakened.
- Aegiochusmon Holy: I see...that's how it was. I hope you won't go to hard on me.
- Aegiomon had remembered almost everything.
- How he was originally born in the Digital World Iliad.
- And how he was Jupitermon, one of the Olympos Twelve!
Chp 11 - Òü╝ÒüÅÒéëÒü«ÒâçÒé©Òé┐Òâ½Òâ»Òâ╝Òâ½Òâë Our Digital World
- Yggdrasil, who controls over the Digital World, has disappeared.
- All that remains are the scraps of data.
- The five coloured 'cards' that served as Yggdrasil's terminal...
- Although they were extremely powerful, at the same time, they were completely meaningless.
- Because under the system of this world, no one was able to make use of them.
- Plutomon: The 'Child of Fate', who returned to a Digiegg and escaped to this world...
- Plutomon: So that was you, Aegiomon!
- Aegiochusmon Holy: Plutomon! What do you plan to achieve by taking over the Digital World Iliad?
- Aegiochusmon Holy: Taking everything! Destroying everything! What will come of ruling a scorched land of nothingness!?
- Plutomon: Let me ask you the same thing. What does the olympos Twelve plan to achieve by governing over the world?
- Plutomon: Are you sure that was the host computer Homeros's intent?
- Aegiochusmon Holy: Homeros's intent has nothing to do with this.
- Aegiochusmon Holy: All I want to do...is to end this meaningless war!
- Aegiomon was surrounded by the fine coloured 'cards'.
- What emerged was 'light'.
- Jupitermon: This is your divine punishment!
- Jupitermon: Return to the Digital World Iliad!
- Jupitermon: No...you shall return to 'nothingness'...
- Plutomon: Save your breath! You think you can defeat me with those dumbell-shaped toys?
- Plutomon: I'll show you the darkness that lies deeper than the abyss...the depths of hell!!
- Thus, the final battle between the Olympos and the Titans commenced.
- That marked the end, and also the beginning...!

---

tl;dr: Aegiomon is a special snowflake, much like Dorumon, ultimately evolving into one of the strongest Digimon and everyone is out to murder him.

Only till Chapter 3 is the storyline released in Heroes though. Btw, Aegiomon faces and has to defeat all 3 forms of Imperialdramon plus Paildramon during his "training" with Imperialdramon PM (chapter 2). Prior to evolving into Jupitermon, he faces off and defeats most of the Olympus XII.

These are the rough translations, I recall reading even better translations, will post them soon.
 
Official info from Bandai back when Jesmon was first revealed:

"The term 'Royal Knights' is a title given to 13 Holy Knight type Digimon who have been gathered together by Yggdrasil to govern over the world, and boast absolute power within the Digital World. Although the 13th Digimon fit to lead the Royal Knights was not present for a long time, Gankoomon saw that potential (saw the qualities) in Hackmon, a Child level Digimon that he met. Through severe, intensive training, Hackmon evolved to Adult, Perfect, and finally to Ultimate level, becoming Jesmon, the 13th Royal Knight.


Although the Royal Knights group is finally complete with all 13 members, with Digimon such as Alphamon who isn't present, the group hasn't truly gathered together with everyone present. Some pledge absolute loyalty to Yggdrasil, some show gratitude towards those they have chosen as their master, some only seek unparalleled power...with each their own justice that they have decided upon, the Royal Knights set out to accomplish their own missions.


The Iliad Digital World, which exists on another server separate from the Digital World that Yggdrasil rules over, appears to be governed by the Digimon known as the Olympus Twelve. While the Royal Knights have not once interfered with the Iliad Digital World due to the Olympus Twelve's protection, the day would soon come where by Yggdrasil's will and a virus sweeping the world, that they would have to cross the servers and meet them face to face. Whether the Royal Knights and Olympus Twelve end up engaging in war or forming an alliance remains to be seen..."


The Illiad Digital World came to be governed by another computer called Homeros once Yggdrasil left and it's on another server. Server here most likely refers to multiverse.

The O12 and Royal Knights are definitely on par and rivals. So they should get the scaling.

Not sure about the Celestials multiversal bigbang, that multiversal bigbang was something that would be caused by absorbing a complete Digital universe filled with Mega level Digimon like Mugendramon (who have an infinite power source)+ the BH program.Aka a massive powerup. Universal should be good enough though.
 
What needed the absorption of the Digital World was the Alter-B, the Big Bang is what was compared to that. In the case: Alter-B + Digital World = Multiversal Explosion = Big Bang.

The explosion being compared to the Big Bang, so all that is needed to occur is also included.
 
So we can at least start working on the Angels. I can edit Ophanimon and Cherubimon. Can someone open Seraphimon?
 
I dunno, I'll see what others think.

Since Mirei compared an attack to wiping out "All Worlds" to the Big Bang itself, should I replace "Low 2-C with Testament" to "2-A with Testament"?
 
Executor N0 said:
What needed the absorption of the Digital World was the Alter-B, the Big Bang is what was compared to that. In the case: Alter-B + Digital World = Multiversal Explosion = Big Bang.
The explosion being compared to the Big Bang, so all that is needed to occur is also included.
I would've agreed with you if the only instance of usage of "big bang" in Digimon was Alter-B's feat.

But there was this part from the Adventure novel:

"For instance, why the Digital World was born. "I don't know that. Instead, let me ask you. Do you know how your world was born?" Koushiro was about to answer "The Big Bang," but stopped. The theory was only a hypothesis, unless someone had seen it for themselves.

In this example, big bang applies to just one world.

There's Apocalymon's final move "Gran Death Big Bang" which has the ability to destroy a complete universe from description and in the show he'd have destroyed both real and digital worlds. There's also AncientVolcamon's mini bigbangs but its destructive potential is rather vague.

So the range for "big bang" in Digimon is from Universal-Multiversal.

Universal seems more reasonable to me considering the low-ends.
 
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