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Devil May Cry Low Tier Revisions
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DMC anime has Multi continent level feats, an I missing something?
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He needs to go Devil Trigger to beat Abigail.
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If you watch the full fight Dante is completely fine after when sid/Abigail attacks him https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bw8UswJlo68
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Dante in DMC1 and DMCAnime is at least High 6-A because he fought with Nelo Angelo/Vergil, who is superior to Demon Baul and Modeus and should be slighty weaker than Anime Abigail [Who should have a 3-A key for his Prime since in the Anime he was transformed from a weaker host] and possibly higher with Devil Trigger since he killed Abigail.
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It's because of stuff like what you are describing that our current DMC scaling is nonsense.
It's because of stuff like what you are describing that our current DMC scaling is nonsense.
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You haven't said on how it is nonsense also Dante was completely fine after being attacked by Sid and called his attacks child's play
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Abigail piercing Dante?
Yes, Dante says it's child's play but that's because he's badass, doesn't mean he wasn't hurt, and he had to use Devil Trigger to win.
Abigail piercing Dante?
Yes, Dante says it's child's play but that's because he's badass, doesn't mean he wasn't hurt, and he had to use Devil Trigger to win.
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Guys, shut the **** up about High 6A Dante or whatever, this is about the Low tiers of DMC and nothing more, discuss this somewhere where it should be discussed, in a CRT about DMC as a whole, I don't understand why you're incapable of waiting to discuss this on a different thread instead of derailing threads that are about the low tiers, this is the second thread to happen and I've said this on multiple occasions.
Guys, shut the **** up about High 6A Dante or whatever, this is about the Low tiers of DMC and nothing more, discuss this somewhere where it should be discussed, in a CRT about DMC as a whole, I don't understand why you're incapable of waiting to discuss this on a different thread instead of derailing threads that are about the low tiers, this is the second thread to happen and I've said this on multiple occasions.
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Tell me where it is stated that Dante got vastly stronger after DMC1 since the timeframe to the Anime is not that long?, Vergil got stronger because he was brainwashed by Mundus and held his own with Dante in all their fights, Demon Baul and Modeus got stomped by Base Dante yes, but their tier is because they are high ranking lords and much weaker to Abigail, which was unsealed by Modeus skull, lastly Abigail pierced Dante and forced him to use the Devil Trigger to kill him.
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"Tell me where it is stated that Dante got vastly stronger after DMC1 since the timeframe to the Anime is not that long"
You don't need statements when it's self evident.
You don't need statements when it's self evident.
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Show me proof that he was hurt from what I saw he doesn't seem that bothered
Sid and base Dante in their clash couldn't overpower one another
Sid and base Dante in their clash couldn't overpower one another
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If Mundus chosed Vergil as his strongest general, it's simple because he saw potential in him and despite being brainwashed he grow in power alonside Dante, so it's impossible that he is that much weaker than Dante, his tier is fine. Dante grew in power from DMC1 to Anime to DMC4 in a slight manner since the little timeframe, his big boosts came from DMC3 (18) to DMC1 (28-29) and DMC4 (Over 30) to DMC2 (Unknown) since they were much higher timeframes. Sid [The most weaker of demons] could not draw the full power of Abigail, who was 3-A in his Prime due to being compared to Mundus and his best feat was at least High 6-A.
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>Gets pierced by spikes
>Bleeds gallons
What more proof is there? Sid's attacks > Dante's durability.
>Bleeds gallons
What more proof is there? Sid's attacks > Dante's durability.
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I've noticed that the age for Dante Vergil and Nero are wrong Dante and Vergil stated to be 19 during 3 and Nero was also stated to the same age as Dante in 3
Dante was 8 when his mother was killed trish said it happened 20 years ago so he would just be 28 during dmc 1
Dante in 4 is stated by the director to be in his late 30s coming close to 40 so Dante in dmc 2 would at least be in his 40s
Dante was 8 when his mother was killed trish said it happened 20 years ago so he would just be 28 during dmc 1
Dante in 4 is stated by the director to be in his late 30s coming close to 40 so Dante in dmc 2 would at least be in his 40s
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Guys, discuss this on the thread.
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He didn't just get spiked he was also punched multiple times and got upMatthew Schroeder said:
He was bleeding so what he was bleeding when lady shot him in the head, he was bleeding when the seven sins stabbed him with their scythes and in both cases he was fine
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He wasn't bleeding when Lady shot him in the head.
Can we just add the changes and close this, and discuss this on another thread
Can we just add the changes and close this, and discuss this on another thread
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He rubs the blood off his head and puts it on a wall
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Keep your language in check please. It will turn impossible to collaborate with any revisions if our members start to insult each other.
While I definitely shouldn't have said that I have constantly told them to not detail the thread with reunrelated stuff on two seperate threads and they couldn't stop.
We already agree on the changes, and there's no real disagreement other the AMM who got corrected. Keeping this open is redundant.
While I definitely shouldn't have said that I have constantly told them to not detail the thread with reunrelated stuff on two seperate threads and they couldn't stop.
We already agree on the changes, and there's no real disagreement other the AMM who got corrected. Keeping this open is redundant.
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I agree. Stay on topic and don't derail. This goes for both sides.Antvasima said:
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Thank you.
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"It's quite obvious. The storm enhances its intensity when her health is dropped to 50%, and the clouds spin around the horizon in a circular motion at incredibly fast speeds, and after she is defeated this effect stops."
Alright, so there are no statements indicating her to be the cause of the storm. Meaning that the only evidence you have are some weird coincidences which occur during the fight.
Alright, so there are no statements indicating her to be the cause of the storm. Meaning that the only evidence you have are some weird coincidences which occur during the fight.
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>Weird Coincidences
Protip, when a physically impossible phenomena happens, chances are it ain't happening naturally, specially when it starts happening when Echidna begins to fight seriously and fades away as she is defeated..
Protip, when a physically impossible phenomena happens, chances are it ain't happening naturally, specially when it starts happening when Echidna begins to fight seriously and fades away as she is defeated..
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"when a physically impossible phenomena happens, chances are it ain't happening naturally, specially when it starts happening when Echidna begins to fight seriously and fades away as she is defeated.."
Do you have any idea of what dramatic effect is? Like, when two characters fight the author thinks it's pretty cool to smack in a thunderstorm when the emotions are running high and when the battles over the storm clears to symbolise some sense of conclusion? You're using literary techniques to extrapolate the ratings of characters by assigning them feats they don't even have.
Do you have any idea of what dramatic effect is? Like, when two characters fight the author thinks it's pretty cool to smack in a thunderstorm when the emotions are running high and when the battles over the storm clears to symbolise some sense of conclusion? You're using literary techniques to extrapolate the ratings of characters by assigning them feats they don't even have.
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"Do you have any idea of what dramatic effect is"
Something that doesn't exist in-universe.
"Like, when two characters fight the author thinks it's pretty cool to smack in a thunderstorm when the emotions are running high and when the battles over the storm clears to symbolise some sense of conclusion"
This isn't even what's going on here. Did you even look / analyze at the scene? A storm begins out of nowhere and the clouds literally spin in circular motions around the arena. This type of shit isn't a storm, it's a literally impossible phenomena that can only occur through supernatural means.
Something that doesn't exist in-universe.
"Like, when two characters fight the author thinks it's pretty cool to smack in a thunderstorm when the emotions are running high and when the battles over the storm clears to symbolise some sense of conclusion"
This isn't even what's going on here. Did you even look / analyze at the scene? A storm begins out of nowhere and the clouds literally spin in circular motions around the arena. This type of shit isn't a storm, it's a literally impossible phenomena that can only occur through supernatural means.
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"Something that doesn't exist in-universe."
Clearly does, and you're using it to interpret certain scenes as feats even though they're clearly not intended to be that way.
"This isn't even what's going on here. Did you even look / analyze at the scene?"
Yeah I did, and my conclusion is that everyone thinks this storm is being summoned by this character because of some weird coincidences. Even though it makes no sense as to why she'd spend up 7-C energy on a storm that doesn't even attack Nero in any way.
Clearly does, and you're using it to interpret certain scenes as feats even though they're clearly not intended to be that way.
"This isn't even what's going on here. Did you even look / analyze at the scene?"
Yeah I did, and my conclusion is that everyone thinks this storm is being summoned by this character because of some weird coincidences. Even though it makes no sense as to why she'd spend up 7-C energy on a storm that doesn't even attack Nero in any way.
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"Clearly does, and you're using it to interpret certain scenes as feats even though they're clearly not intended to be that way."
No it doesn't, in-universe dramatic effect doesn't exist, as in-universes the events taking place are real. So we have to find an explanation for what's happening. Saying dramatic effect exists in-universe is like saying dramatic effect exists in real life.
"weird coincidences"
Impossible phenomena such as spinning clouds that happen on a specific point when Echidna starts fighting serious isn't a coincidence.
"Even though it makes no sense as to why she'd spend up 7-C energy on a storm that doesn't even attack Nero in any way"
Because that's just the side effect of her power and she is attacking him with much stronger attacks. Basic stuff.
No it doesn't, in-universe dramatic effect doesn't exist, as in-universes the events taking place are real. So we have to find an explanation for what's happening. Saying dramatic effect exists in-universe is like saying dramatic effect exists in real life.
"weird coincidences"
Impossible phenomena such as spinning clouds that happen on a specific point when Echidna starts fighting serious isn't a coincidence.
"Even though it makes no sense as to why she'd spend up 7-C energy on a storm that doesn't even attack Nero in any way"
Because that's just the side effect of her power and she is attacking him with much stronger attacks. Basic stuff.
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AMM, if a situation happens that is completely impossible naturally, chances are someone caused it.
For example, in the first episode of Ressha Sentai ToQger, a sudden and very fast eclipse is caused shortly before the arrival of the villains, who are themed around darkness.
Do we assume that this freak eclipse happened naturally and the villains just arrived at a convenient time?
No, we assume they caused it, because that relies on a lot less assumptions.
For example, in the first episode of Ressha Sentai ToQger, a sudden and very fast eclipse is caused shortly before the arrival of the villains, who are themed around darkness.
Do we assume that this freak eclipse happened naturally and the villains just arrived at a convenient time?
No, we assume they caused it, because that relies on a lot less assumptions.
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"Saying dramatic effect exists in-universe is like saying dramatic effect exists in real life."
Yeah but this is a fictional series where authors like to put in a lot of symbolism like storms appearing in sad moments and what not.
"Impossible phenomena such as spinning clouds that happen on a specific point when Echidna starts fighting serious isn't a coincidence."
Spinning clouds isn't impossible phenomena , and it's purely coincidental that it occurs when Echidna starts fighting seriously. Seeing as there exists no statements which indicates she's behind the cause.
Yeah but this is a fictional series where authors like to put in a lot of symbolism like storms appearing in sad moments and what not.
"Impossible phenomena such as spinning clouds that happen on a specific point when Echidna starts fighting serious isn't a coincidence."
Spinning clouds isn't impossible phenomena , and it's purely coincidental that it occurs when Echidna starts fighting seriously. Seeing as there exists no statements which indicates she's behind the cause.
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But is it possible for them to spin at such high speed?
And dude, stop trying to go "lol coincidence". This kind of shit can't be coincidences.
And dude, stop trying to go "lol coincidence". This kind of shit can't be coincidences.
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"Yeah but this is a fictional series where authors like to put in a lot of symbolism like storms appearing in sad moments and what not."
Symbolism doesn't exist in-universe, just like Symbolism doesn't happen in real life events.
Also, the "spinning clouds" you linked =/= Echidna's spinning clouds which form a perfect circles around the arena and the top area of the sky is just darkened.
Symbolism doesn't exist in-universe, just like Symbolism doesn't happen in real life events.
Also, the "spinning clouds" you linked =/= Echidna's spinning clouds which form a perfect circles around the arena and the top area of the sky is just darkened.
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Still don't agree in the slightest but seeing as continuing arguing wont do anything I will refrain from doing so.
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/\ My thoughts exactly, so I agree with Ever and Matthew on this one.Gargoyle One said:
This whole use of "It's just a literary choice" or something equals disqualifying legitimate feats based on headcanon. The Weather effects wouldn't simply decide to appear in the exact instant the user enters into combat and would definitely not disappear just because either.
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It is actually a fallacy to assume just because two things happen at the same time must mean that one of them caused the other. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Fallacy#30._Post_hoc_ergo_prompter_hoc
Also eclipses occuring when the bad guy shows up is one of the most overused tropes ever in fiction. A really bad example.
Amm makes way more sense here.
Also eclipses occuring when the bad guy shows up is one of the most overused tropes ever in fiction. A really bad example.
Amm makes way more sense here.
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