What does the weird emoticon add? All it does it make you come off as incredibly smug and irritating (which, you aren’t, but it still comes off as that), and doesn’t do anything to “chill” Unoriginal out. Just unnecessary imo, especially from a mod trying to keep the peace of the thread.
Same man, same.
The idea that the HW=DW is being contested pretty strongly. 2-A however has been abandoned. That ship has long since sailed.
I appreciate you coming to my defence. However, you need not worry, not even once have I been truly angry in this thread even if annoyed from time to time and any pitiful attempt at inflammatory baiting (direct or indirect) will not be enough to make me truly lose my composure. While I will certainly be more intentional to not let frustration leak into any following responses what I will not do is chill out in the sense of giving up on my points. Especially when I feel there is no reason for me to concede on them despite Clover's best attempts.
Unless evidence of the realms within the DW of them being different space times is shown, nah.
Pretty sure it was already shown in the blog for 2a as the whole argument iirc focused on the container for multiple space times then a argument happened if this is 2c or 2a
DDM's vote is weird because he said both a 2-C downgrade and a Low 1-C upgrade are fine so... I guess I'll try to note it however possible
You can be the same size as a realm that contains space time without you yourself containing them
Basically, he just doesn't want it to be 2A, he would be fine with either Low 1C or 2C. So yeah, it's safe to say he agrees with the downgrade.
Okay. The "merging" Clover is so fixated on is actually usually referred to as "consuming", the descriptions imply a noteworthy size difference, and at the end of the day Clover's evidence is using selected interpretations of single words whose definition doesn't even match what he says, and his interpretation clashes with the more used word "consume", which unlike split and merge actually does have pretty strong relevance to size. The fact that the demon world contains both finite and infinite dimensions, as well as dimensions stated to be diverged from time, within itself as lesser parts, including a duplicate of the human world, only further exacerbates this issue. Hard to call them equal in size when a dimension that's the same as the human world is contained as a small part of the demon world.
To be frank, idrc about if hw = dw or not. I am just trynna clarify what size is hw yeeted to
Probably better to make this thread only about that to be honest. This whole equal split argument didn't have to happen at all. Let's be honest here, DDM only mentioned the 2-A stuff, Ant literally only reads staff comments if even that (kind of demoralising knowing you apparently aren't worth reading unless you're staff to be honest) and an infinite human world just doesn't have enough evidence.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/dmc-mid-tiers-re-work.159252/ idk why profiles still link the explanation that say low 6b but here the thread for uni shaking
Yeah, the revised blog used for the 2-A justification readily demonstrates this. Not to mention what I said earlier concerning the space-time continuum Mundus easily fits right in his palace.
Why?
I see
because this thread is mainly for removing the 2-A rating
But OP states DW = HW is the primary reason, most of the pages debate the topic hotly. So is it no concluded then that HW = DW?
@CloverDragon03 seems to have given up on the HW=DW take and primarily wants to remove 2-A which was eviscerated due to the container thread and its votes (more than anything else).
How convenient. Very convenient.
Amen to that. I'd daresay American politics is more stable than VSBW standards even at the best of times for this wiki.
Our standards of discouraging political side chatter, and not allowing disruption of CRTs with useless comments, have been remarkably stable, actually. Knock it off.
Given the global chaos, support for genocide and tyranny, and potential World War 3 that absolutely greedy, selfish, malevolent, and conscience-deprived North American politicians are causing currently, compared to the generally mostly well-intended volunteer workers in our little community, this seems like a ridiculously enormous exaggeration...
I wasn't trying to get into the nonsense that deep. I was just being a tad too sarcastic. My apologies for not joking in good taste.Given the global chaos, support for genocide and tyranny, and potential World War 3 that absolutely greedy, selfish, malevolent, and conscience-deprived North American politicians are causing currently, compared to the generally mostly well-intended volunteer workers in our little community, this seems like a ridiculously enormous exaggeration...
BTW, shouldn't a vote be called at this point or something. We probably need to invite staff to look at this thread before things start to derail any further. @Planck69 for example is a member of the staff which comes to mind.Thank you. Apology accepted.
@DarkDragonMedeus and @LordGriffin1000 and in both cases they only voted against 2-A iirc. So I guess that's technically a total of 2 yes' for downgrade to 2-C, but 0 yes' for DW=HW.Which staff members have commented in this thread so far?
is that a solid vote in favour of the OP downgrading to 2-C
Yes, DDM disagrees with 2A fully; for him, it's more a question of whether it should be Low 1C or 2C, but in that choice, he is leaning towards 2C instead of Low 1C.
More importantly there is no agreement towards the DW=HW option, only that the DW be changed from 2-A. The DW=HW take is the entire reason this thread has lasted so many pages as everyone already accepts that 2-A is indefensible due to recent shifts in standards.
