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This thread is to add some elements, which I think are missing, to these characters: Ikora Rey, Saint-14, Shin Malphur and Warlock (Destiny). As Guardians, each of them should have the following abilities and resistances:
Warlock (Destiny), Ikora Rey and all those capable to use the Radiance should have Intangibility, Statistics Amplification and Resurrection :
ABILITIES
- Data manipulation : Most, if not all, Guardians are able to decipher engrams (probably with their ghosts). Engrams are encoded matter :
''Dr. Willa Bray was the first person to successfully encode solid matter; this breakthrough led to the creation of engrams.'' - Clovis Bray (Organisation)
''What is an engram ?'', you ask? Data freed from matter.' - Master Rahool
"The unique datastatic structure of relic crystals inspired Doctor Willa Bray to develop the first engram matter-encryption techniques during the Golden Age." - Ghost
Guardians can alter data by shooting at it or by using their Light:
"Once connected, access to these networks is severely limited for the Eliksni Sacred Splicers, though Guardians, due to their unique relationship with the Light, are able to manifest corporeally within the network for short periods of time. They can then alter the data found therein with focused percussive energy—including gunfire—in a baffling scientific process the Cryptarchy does not yet fully understand." - The Splicer Gauntlet
- Causality Manipulation :
"Tug at the threads of causality"- Wild Hunt Gloves
"Come," the voice calls. "I am Nasya. You are not safe. Come with me."
"Not safe?"
"No. Of course she is not safe. Because there are factions among the Nine: one faction sent Xûr and Orin to study Guardians and the Light, to seek the secret of effect-without-cause and to protect the source of that secret, the last source, now that the Ahamkara are gone. Those five played at alchemy with the Cocytus gates, turning dark dust into energy and then into matter, but they could not unlock the secrets of our mad existence." - The Witch
"How does Light make you tougher? Bullets strike your armor and then decide they didn't." - Cosmic Wind
- Fate Manipulation :
''Guardians make their own fate. But what if the process by which they decide upon their own fate could be understood and manipulated?'' - act|choose|react
- Subjective Reality : It is implied that a weapon powered by the Light can end existence if the wielder will so:
"If you believe your weapon wants to end all existence, then so it will." - Bad Juju
Guardians can also use Ontology (It is a branch of philosophy that studies concepts such as existence, being, becoming, and reality.) to convince things they shouldn't exist :
''Applied ontology is the art of convincing things they shouldn't exist.'' - Eclipse Maw VI
The Gorgon (in the Vault Of Glass) use Ontology to define what is and what is not :
''Deep in the Vault of Glass, the fabric of reality bends to the will of the Vex. Warlocks speak in tones of awe of the Gorgons - creatures that seem to possess a dreaded, almost unimaginable strength: an ontological weapon. Like the Oracles and the Templar, the Gorgons reputedly possess the ability to define what is and is not real. Whatever they perceive becomes subject to erasure at their will.'' - The Gorgons
The Light describe itself as Ontological :
"Once upon a time,* a gardener and a winnower lived** together in a garden.***
* It was once before a time, because time had not yet begun.
** We did not live. We existed as principles of ontological dynamics that emerged from mathematical structures, as bodiless and inevitable as the primes.
*** It was the field of possibility that prefigured existence." - Gardener and Winnower
Another character, Orin, describe the Light of the Guardians as an Ontological force able to conjure things into existence (at least, she implied it) :
“As a Lightbearer, your very thoughts propel an ontological force. Should you wish it, your sheer will could conjure...“ - Orin(19:47)
Guardians can anchor things into existence :
This weapon cannot exist in this timeline and will vanish without an anchor point to secure it in this reality. Create an anchor point by completing public events. - Steelfeather Repeater
- Self sustenance (?) : Guardians don't need to sleep :
"You will find the nightmares grow worse. Thankfully, you no longer have need of sleep." - Ego Talon Bond
- Non-Physical Interaction : Any guardian can kill and interact with the Taken who are non-existent and formless beings:
''You have been Taken.
The great fortress of your thoughts has been breached, your unity broken. The network around and within you lies ruptured. You are cut out from the fabric, a hole in the whole.
Observe this area of negative space, shaped like what once you were, and embrace a new possibility.'' - Seditious Mind
"Is this power blind? Just a natural energy Oryx discovered? I cannot believe it.
My Hidden tell me that the Taken shine with seething, negative light. As if the universe is curling up around them. As if they radiate some pathology that decays into our world as nothingness..." - The Taken
Guardians can kill/destroy Nightmares. They are described as made of chaos, negation, and the raw things found existing in spaces between thought and fear. :
"The Nightmares appear to be extracted from our very psyche—violent manifestations that wreak havoc, tormenting us with our past trauma. They tease us with a life we once knew, prying into our minds and attacking our most vulnerable points. This assault on our emotions is aimed to weaken us and our sense of purpose." - Eris Morn
''The Daughters' lineage was death and destruction writ in terrible scars across the surface of existence, yet no hint of their father or their father's father called from the void. But the energies of the Pyramid were those of creation—not of life, per se, but something other. Chaos and negation and the raw things that existed in the spaces between thought and fear. These terrible workings were wholly unknowable and endlessly seductive.'' - Heretic
They can also interact with Datalattices which are encrypted data:
Encrypted data inaccessible in an unknown hybrid state of matter-energy. Bring this to Failsafe in the Exodus Black on Nessus to discover its value. - Microphasic Datalattice
- Conceptual Manipulation (for their Ghosts) : Guardians can destroy and nullify the runes of the Hive which are conceptual in nature :
"Hive runes draw their power from a different dimension, where there’s no difference between a word and its meaning. When the Hive erode the barrier between our dimension and theirs, the rune for “death” brings literal death." - Ghost scan festering halls titan 3
- At least genius (?) level intelligence : According to the lore of the starfire protocol, the subconscious of a Guardian is comparable to that of a virtual computer:
''The Protocol is contained in the patterns on the robe that, if scanned at the molecular level, describe a Turing-compatible virtual computer and program that, when executed on said computer, calculates the entire Protocol, exactly as it was determined in the Precipice of Flame.
This is of little interest to most Guardians, who can subconsciously "load" the program simply by looking at the pattern.'' - Starfire Protocol
- Telepathy (for their Ghosts):
You see your Ghost clinging to it for dear life with bits of his shell.
"I thought you would never look back here!" Ghost shouts into your mind. "I've launched a battery of spectral scans off our position—what we're experiencing is real!"
- Creation :
For their Ghosts :
''Suddenly, a smallish robot is floating beside the Warlock. The tinker had seen Ghosts before, but never this close. It speaks. "This is irrational. I'm capable of reproducing your Sparrow on command and in mint condition. Why pay this person to repair your old one? It increases the failure rate by 18% at minimum."
The tinker stares at the Ghost, his face reddening. He had worked day and night for two full weeks on this Sparrow, and the proceeds would keep his shop open for another three months. It was the biggest job he'd had in a year.'' - Firecrest
Guardians can make constructs out of The Light too. For example, the Golden Gun, the Void Bow, or the Solar Hammer, emotes, etc.
- Hacking (for their Ghosts) :
"Variks: You will encounter many locks here. Variks offers you his keys. They are… old. [inhales] The teeth must fit this new lock.
Ghost: Do you really think your old access codes will work? Maybe there's another way.
Variks: There is no other way.
Ghost: All right. Just between you and me, I'm really tired of hacking security systems…" - Sabotaging Salvation
- Black Hole Creation (for void Light user) :
"Light is scarce in this place. But Quantis knows how to find it—how to feel for the un-ripples of the Void, to draw Light from the infinities between spaces. She knows how to roll black holes between her fingertips, and how to nock her bow with the inescapable gravities of the universe.
Soon Quantis will leave this place, return to the City, report her findings. See colors again. But that won't last long. She is a Nightstalker. Out here—balanced upon the infinitesimal knife's edge—is where she truly belongs." - Orpheus Rig
"The pull of the Void has attracted many Guardians with… unorthodox world views. It remains a uniquely perplexing manifestation of the Light," Ikora says, gazing at a swirl of violet particles rising from the palm of her hand.
"Perhaps this mystery is what enamors so many Lightbearers. Perhaps it is the unquenchable thirst with which the Void consumes our enemies."
She snaps her fingers, and the particles coalesce into a singularity that blinks out of existence.
"To seek the truth of the matter is to join venerated orders of Void-wielders: Nightstalkers; Voidwalkers; Sentinels. If this is your path, Guardian, walk it carefully." - Ikora Rey - Gazing Into The Abyss
- Teleportation (for their Ghosts) : Ghosts can transmat (teleport) their guardian in and out of their ship. They can also teleport things like weapons, sparrows, etc.
Now for the more specific cases:I requested that my Ghost attempt to contain and transmat the fragment for quarantine on my jumpship. He was unable to establish a Light link with the object, describing the fragment as "slippery" and "tiring" to try to catch hold of. - Fragment
Warlock (Destiny), Ikora Rey and all those capable to use the Radiance should have Intangibility, Statistics Amplification and Resurrection :
Shin Malphur should have access to the Void (Quantum Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, Life-Absorption, Matter Manipulation (Macro-Quantum)) and Arc( Electricity Manipulation, Magnetism Manipulation) subclasses, he never used them in the lore, but accomplished guardians are able to use all three subclasses. Cayde-6, another hunter who is likely weaker than him, is capable of using all three. The same goes for Saint-14, as one of the strongest titan to ever live he should be able to use the solar subclass."Open yourself to the Light. Glimpse, for a few rapturous moments, the truth beyond the powers you wield.
A Warlock in a state of Radiance threatens to slip beyond the bonds of the material, shrugging off physical harm, channeling a torrent of abilities. Some may learn to elevate nearby Guardians, gifting them with power. Others, entranced by the Ghosts' power to reach beyond death, may learn to pluck themselves out of nothingness like the phoenix of ancient myth." - Radiance
"The Warlock's Radiance Super makes his weapons more powerful for a time and can also have the effect of resurrecting Guardians after a fight." - WoG
RESISTANCES :
- Guardians fight each other every day in the crucible, so they should be able to resist their abilities.
- Physique manipulation and resistance to it? :
I drive my Sparrow at breakneck speed because it reminds me of my place in the universe. It reminds me of every force that acts on me, every "law" of motion I can or can't break. I'm most interested in the ones I can't break, honestly. Considering I am myself an aberration of the laws of physics, I rather like finding the edges of things. Not that I'm content to leave those edges as they are. I just get a sort of… thrill out of finding them. - Approaching Infinity
Ammonite aren't Guardians but their weapons were powered by the Light, so Guardians should obviously scale :
We knew curiosity would draw you back, Auryx. In their desperation, the Ammonite have begun using paracausal weapons.
What are these? How do they work? Wouldn’t you like to know. Suffice to say that some powers in this universe are superordinate to mere material physics.
The source of these weapons is the Traveler, the Sky’s bait star. Their effect is subtle, but devastating. - XVI: The Sword Logic
- Corruption :
Taken passively corrupt and erase the world around them, but Guardians aren't affected.
My Hidden tell me that the Taken shine with seething, negative light. As if the universe is curling up around them. As if they radiate some pathology that decays into our world as nothingness... - The Taken
- Power mimicry, Information Analysis and Clairvoyance :
Vex are unable to simulate or analyze the light of guardians.
I don’t know where you have gone, but I can no longer send Ghosts out to find you. Some come back— with tales of your death or how you went seeking answers from the far reaches of space and time. That you found a way to explore the Vex gate networks. That you've made breakthrough after breakthrough as to their origins— theories that a Guardian could not be simulated, that the Traveler might be an ontoformer or a god-incubator, that the Vex had diverged into multiple groups in order to secure 'an end state for every possible configuration of reality'. - Osiris
Ghost: That Mind said one last thing as it died. It's afraid. Afraid of your Light- the one thing in this galaxy it can't simulate. Probably old news to Ikora, bit I'll ping it to the Vanguard. - Deep Conversation