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Demon Slayer? More Like Bad Slayer, HAHAHHAHAH I'M SO FUNNY

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Before We Start​

If I get anything wrong, know that I haven't read the manga so yeah.​

Well, this is a belter of a debunk. There is no evidence she moves 151cm withing the calculated timeframe, in fact, it's just not true. The lightning had already hit the ground by that point and made a little lightning explosion.
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In the next panels she gets hurt by his explosions. Why would she scale massively above them if she can't consistently dodge them?
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Now if Daki doesn't scale above them, why would Tengen?​

Feat is missing, but I'd assume it falls under the debunk for the first feat.
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Man I'll see if this one is valid when I can be bothered.

Edit: This is just calc stacking lol, it's not like Muzan is punching him, he just exploded at an unknown speed. I reject this feat.

Anyhow, I covered the highest speed feats for my first thread. This will be split into many threads.
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Whatever, someone else is making a longer debunk thread. You guys are acting as if DS can't be debunked when it took me a coke and 5 minutes to figure out the debunks.
 
Vzearr said:
Demon slayer fans are funny man, low effort doesn't even = wrong.

Stop acting like you guy's know more than me. It's clearly not the case.
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I'm not sure if I need permission to comment here but... they kind of do know more than you. They are supporters for this verse (Or at least Mach is). A verse which you said you haven't even read (neither have I).

But to address some small things
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[]Yoriichi Cuts 1500 Pieces of Muzan[/]​

[]Man I'll see if this one is valid when I can be bothered.

Edit: This is just calc stacking lol, it's not like Muzan is punching him, he just exploded at an unknown speed. I reject this feat.[/]
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This isn't calc-stacking. They're using a stated speed in-series. Those are never considered as calc-stacking, and there have even been threads to cement that. It would only be calc-stacking if they used a speed calculated in another calculation.
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[]Tanjiro Dodges Lightning[/]​

[]Feat is missing, but I'd assume it falls under the debunk for the first feat.[/]
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If you don't even see the feat, why are you assuming it falls under the same debunk when it could be a completely different scene? If you saw the feat, that would be one thing, but just "guessing" isn't going to cut it for a CRT if you ask me.
 
LaserPrecision said:
This isn't calc-stacking. They're using a stated speed in-series. Those are never considered as calc-stacking, and there have even been threads to cement that. It would only be calc-stacking if they used a speed calculated in another calculation.
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It's a feat of a demon's movement speed, not of a demons explosion speed. You're wrong here.
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If you don't even see the feat, why are you assuming it falls under the same debunk when it could be a completely different scene? If you saw the feat, that would be one thing, but just "guessing" isn't going to cut it for a CRT if you ask me.
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That wasn't a debunk, it was more to get the actual feat than make the claim it's wrong.
 
Vzearr said:
Whatever, someone else is making a longer debunk thread. You guys are acting as if DS can't be debunked when it took me a coke and 5 minutes to figure out the debunks.
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Dawg just ask to join the CRT that Chariot & Co are cooking or somethin', or take it serious and actually do your homework with the debunk that you want instead of side-eyeing feats for five minutes.
 
Yeah this is starting to get me annoyed. Screw waiting for the next thread. I'll debate you all on this right here. Every calc I listed is fundamentally flawed.
 
Vzearr said:
It's a feat of a demon's movement speed, not of a demons explosion speed. You're wrong here.
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I'm not wrong. It's not calc-stacking because it doesn't involve using speed from another calculation (or hidden calculation). That claim is not incorrect. What you should be arguing is that the logic is flawed which is arguable (The logic being that Muzan's self-destruction speed doesn't have to equal another demon's travel speed).
Vzearr said:
That wasn't a debunk, it was more to get the actual feat than make the claim it's wrong.
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Then wouldn't it have been better to ask someone for the feat elsewhere instead of putting it in here and saying the feat falls under the same debunk if you're saying it wasn't a debunk?
 
Alright after taking a breather, It's not calc stacking yet it's still wrong.

Apologies if I came across as rude.
 
Vzearr said:
Alright after taking a breather, It's not calc stacking yet it's still wrong.
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That would be a better angle to take, yeah. I mean, I dunno the series so I can't say if you're right or wrong, but it's a feasible point.
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Apologies if I came across as rude.
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All good 🐭

This'll prolly be my last comment since I'm unsure if I need perms or not to comment in a calc group discussion thread.
 
It's funny this reminded me of the One Piece and Naruto fandom when I began debunking their calculations.
 
I'm not much a supporter of Demon Slayer however i see this CRT is made with low effort well yeah not saying this to be rude but some points like "it would fall under debunk" when you don't even see the feat is really look like a bad joke. Anyway i suggest that don't make this thread more spicy, have a good day👍
 
What about an explosion statueing Muzan in the anime? Do we calculate it literally, or is it just meant to be cinematic?
 
Kin201 said:
What about an explosion statueing Muzan in the anime? Do we calculate it literally, or is it just meant to be cinematic?
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given the existence of special gunpowder and a low tier demon with an explicit mach 1 attack, which naratively hashira tier opponents can statue people who can easily react to them (and they still get blitzed by muzan) the explosion should just be an extention of an enhanced version of the gunpowder used against gyutaro, so it should be literal, especially considering the author is playing a huge role in the animation process
 
Vzearr said:

In the next panels she gets hurt by his explosions. Why would she scale massively above them if she can't consistently dodge them?​
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So, just to clear things up. Daki getting hurt by the explosion doesn't mean her speed is below the explosions. I'm not sure where the inconsistency is. The very next chapter shows this scene, likely the one you're referring to, where Tengen throws his bombs directly at Daki's obi and Gyutaro's sickle. Gyutaro, who is narratively the superior demon, gets caught by surprise, barely managing to react to the bombs and avoid cutting them, while Daki, who is consistently shown being blitz tiers below Tengen and inferior to Gyutaro, naturally fails to react at all. If Gyutaro was caught off guard and barely avoided the bombs, why do you think the demon he carried to Upper Six would be as fast? And if you've watched the anime, or at least the clip in which the scene takes place, you'd know these explosives weren't even supposed to kill Daki in the first place. Tengen used the smoke from the bombs as cover to decapitate her.

To emphasize the speed with which Tengen threw the bombs: Daki was still mid-air, and her obi belts had nearly reached Tengen when he pulled the bombs out. Tengen threw the bombs so fast, they reached Gyutaro before Daki's obi reached Tengen, clearly showing us that the bombs were moving faster than Daki's obi.

TLDR: Daki just got blitzed by Tengen's throwing speed, not the explosions themselves.
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Now if Daki doesn't scale above them, why would Tengen?​
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Daki absolutely scales above the speed of the explosions, and Tengen himself has been shown being far superior to Daki. Here's him nonchalantly decapitating Daki without even seeming to move from her POV (the anime emphasizes the speed difference even more), while surprising Tanjiro, who also blitzed Daki at one point. Here's Tanjiro getting blitzed by Gyutaro, with his sickle millimeters away from Tanjiro's jaw, before Tengen tosses him aside to save him and evenly clash with Gyutaro. And here's Tengen doing the exact same thing again (the anime has Gyutaro's sickle centimeters away from Tanjiro's eye).

I'll let the person who made the calc actually defend the math/method, but if your "debunk" is Tengen not scaling above his bombs because Daki doesn't, then you should know that narratively Tengen is the far faster character here.

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Feat is missing, but I'd assume it falls under the debunk for the first feat.​
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This feat is performed several chapters earlier, by two different characters. So this just isn't a debunk at all. Why even include it in the thread?
 
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I’m going to be honest none of these debunks hold up to scrutiny.

Vzearr said:

Well, this is a belter of a debunk. There is no evidence she moves 151cm withing the calculated timeframe, in fact, it's just not true. The lightning had already hit the ground by that point and made a little lightning explosion.​
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This calculation is based on the timeframe provided by the anime in which she makes her jump in basically a single frame, long before the lightning hits the ground or has time to even reach where she was crouching at the speed of its approach.

Vzearr said:

In the next panels she gets hurt by his explosions. Why would she scale massively above them if she can't consistently dodge them?​
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Daki couldn’t avoid the bomb because it got thrown at her by Tengen (who she scales massively above her in speed). The speed by which Tengen can throw the bombs is far faster than the speed of the explosion.

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Now if Daki doesn't scale above them, why would Tengen?​
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This doesn’t make sense because Tengen is massively above Daki in speed, so even if she was below the speed of explosions (which she isn’t) this is hardly an anti-feat for Tengen.

Vzearr said:

Feat is missing, but I'd assume it falls under the debunk for the first feat.​
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Completely different scene with a different timeframe and distance.

Vzearr said:

Man I'll see if this one is valid when I can be bothered.

Edit: This is just calc stacking lol, it's not like Muzan is punching him, he just exploded at an unknown speed. I reject this feat.

Anyhow, I covered the highest speed feats for my first thread. This will be split into many threads.​
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Using explicitly stated speeds for slower characters is not calc stacking.
 
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It's a feat of a demon's movement speed, not of a demons explosion speed. You're wrong here.
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This also doesn’t work as a debunk, because if the speed of Muzan’s escape were slower that the stated attack speed of Kyogai (not movement speed by the way), something even a crippled S1 Tanjiro can blitz his way past, then Yoriichi would have statued the explosion.

For Muzan to have any chance of escape, all of his flesh pellets would need to at least be relative to himself (whom Yoriichi can perception blitz).
 
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