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Civilization Profiles additions
So, Undertale has as civilization profiles the Underground and Humanity, and Deltarune had nothing. So I took this fact as injustice, and made the same for Deltarune:
Jevil, Spamton and Kris get 4th Wall Awareness
Right, I don't get why these three don't have it, because... it's literally the whole point of their character. Let's start with Jevil.
He was a normal court jester, until he met a "strange someone" who warped his view on the world, to the point of him seeing the world as a game, and everyone as its participants, with Jevil even saying that he is the only free one, with the world around him being a prison.
About Spamton instead (given he is the main point of this argument), he is aware of Kris having lost control of their life because of the Player, and even relates himself to them given that his whole plan was to get the NEO body at all costs in order to gain freedom and free himself from these "strings", even saying to Kris that both of them can become "big" if they agreed to his plan, and Spamton saying after the fight that the Delta Warriors maybe can break their own strings. This is also supported from the fact that Kris, unlike Susie and Ralsei, was clearly affected from Spamton getting his strings cut and falling to the ground because of it.
Plus literally the fact that both of Spamton and Jevil have as favor text "the air crackles with freedom" and share the same leitmotif in THE WORLD REVOLVING and BIG SHOT too.
Kris should also get it, as the reason is beyond obvious at this point, given that they very openly oppose the Player's control, showcased from the fact that when Kris takes away their soul from their body, is still possible to control said soul with the controls, if you look at the birdcage.
Besides, Chara and Flowey have both 4th wall awareness because of them talking directly to the Player, so why not.
Edit: @ZillertheBucko did bring a good point below, as King and Queen are both definitely aware of what the is the Light World, due to the following factors:
Civilization Profiles additions
So, Undertale has as civilization profiles the Underground and Humanity, and Deltarune had nothing. So I took this fact as injustice, and made the same for Deltarune:
- Card Kingdom (I know it's an unofficial name, but it's widely accepted in the fandom to the point both this wiki and the Deltarune wiki use it in lack of a canon one)
- Cyber World
Jevil, Spamton and Kris get 4th Wall Awareness
Right, I don't get why these three don't have it, because... it's literally the whole point of their character. Let's start with Jevil.
He was a normal court jester, until he met a "strange someone" who warped his view on the world, to the point of him seeing the world as a game, and everyone as its participants, with Jevil even saying that he is the only free one, with the world around him being a prison.
About Spamton instead (given he is the main point of this argument), he is aware of Kris having lost control of their life because of the Player, and even relates himself to them given that his whole plan was to get the NEO body at all costs in order to gain freedom and free himself from these "strings", even saying to Kris that both of them can become "big" if they agreed to his plan, and Spamton saying after the fight that the Delta Warriors maybe can break their own strings. This is also supported from the fact that Kris, unlike Susie and Ralsei, was clearly affected from Spamton getting his strings cut and falling to the ground because of it.
Plus literally the fact that both of Spamton and Jevil have as favor text "the air crackles with freedom" and share the same leitmotif in THE WORLD REVOLVING and BIG SHOT too.
Kris should also get it, as the reason is beyond obvious at this point, given that they very openly oppose the Player's control, showcased from the fact that when Kris takes away their soul from their body, is still possible to control said soul with the controls, if you look at the birdcage.
Besides, Chara and Flowey have both 4th wall awareness because of them talking directly to the Player, so why not.
Edit: @ZillertheBucko did bring a good point below, as King and Queen are both definitely aware of what the is the Light World, due to the following factors:
- King in the dialogue in the fight is clearly aware of the world ofthe Lightners and the differences from his own.
- Queen very explicitly mentions the activities the Lightners do on the internet and her plan is to cover the light world in darkness so both lightners and darkners live in harmony (with her also making up rooms for the lightners based on their internet history) and because of this she understands to stop when Ralsei brings the consequences of the Roaring.
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has anything to do with the dark world and light world. Even Queen and King are fully aware that they were only made into reality by the knight creating the dark world, and Spamton and Jevil are most certainly on a higher level of awareness than them.
