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DELTARUNE; Chapter 3 & 4 !!!SPOILER!!! Discussion Thread

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Deltarune CH3&4: Powers and Abilities

This CRT will focus only on the Delta Warriors and their individual profiles New Powers and Abilities: --Chapter 1 KEY-- Kris: Light Manipulation & Sealing (Can seal the Dark Fountains and the Dark Worlds they sustained while their SOUL begins to glow) Kris: Clairvoyance (Since chapters 1 and...
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So…. When’s the GOAT Gerson Boom’s profile dropping? Do you guys think putting him up against NEO would be good?

(Spamton’s already won against Queen and just got voted to beat Tenna, as prompted I might need to put him up against the old man)
 
So, since everyone and some staff like the feat, could we implement the Kris chocolate throwing feat now or does something need to be done first before it's implemented?
 
Ti58 said:
In the Chapter 4 weird route, the player uses the dialogue box to go into Noelle's room from the vents. Would that count as teleportation or something else?
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Definitely a form of teleportation though it should be specified what the use is for obvious reasons.

Also though a bit of a concerning factor I haven't seen people mention (though I haven't been active here) is that Chapter 4 basically confirms that, at least in Deltarune, our soul isn't actually incorporeal. This wouldn't necessarily automatically apply to Undertale of course but it kinda shoots down some stuff in DR. It was already questionable given that Kris was able to restrain our soul by putting it in a cage, a cupboard, and couch cushions, but if that wasn't enough Chapter 4 shows it interacting with the physical environment to a 100% consistency and even getting harmed by Kris kicking it inside of a trash can.
 
RinneItachi said:
Definitely a form of teleportation though it should be specified what the use is for obvious reasons.

Also though a bit of a concerning factor I haven't seen people mention (though I haven't been active here) is that Chapter 4 basically confirms that, at least in Deltarune, our soul isn't actually incorporeal. This wouldn't necessarily automatically apply to Undertale of course but it kinda shoots down some stuff in DR. It was already questionable given that Kris was able to restrain our soul by putting it in a cage, a cupboard, and couch cushions, but if that wasn't enough Chapter 4 shows it interacting with the physical environment to a 100% consistency and even getting harmed by Kris kicking it inside of a trash can.
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2-B entity gets trash can tiered. this will be the greatest downgrade thread i will ever make.
 
I think making it 2-B with powers only makes sense

I do have noooo idea how to handle durability though. This thing takes hits from Sans, Asgore, Berdly, Light World Kris, it's all over the place

CANNOT break out of a birdcage btw

I had a weird idea a while back where the SOUL operates off of Damage Transferal of sorts, where any damage it takes it directed back to Frisk/Susie/Ralsei/Kris or whatever, and it shatters when they can't take any more. I don't know how to even begin pitching that though, not gonna bother lol
 
ShockingPsychic said:
I think making it 2-B with powers only makes sense

I do have noooo idea how to handle durability though. This thing takes hits from Sans, Asgore, Berdly, Light World Kris, it's all over the place

CANNOT break out of a birdcage btw

I had a weird idea a while back where the SOUL operates off of Damage Transferal of sorts, where any damage it takes it directed back to Frisk/Susie/Ralsei/Kris or whatever, and it shatters when they can't take any more. I don't know how to even begin pitching that though, not gonna bother lol
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Why don't we just seperate the two entities so we only have to deal with Deltarune characters?

It's base tier probably just scales to light world stuff and doesn't take dark world into consideration, because it's not real? idk.
 
RinneItachi said:
Also though a bit of a concerning factor I haven't seen people mention (though I haven't been active here) is that Chapter 4 basically confirms that, at least in Deltarune, our soul isn't actually incorporeal. This wouldn't necessarily automatically apply to Undertale of course but it kinda shoots down some stuff in DR. It was already questionable given that Kris was able to restrain our soul by putting it in a cage, a cupboard, and couch cushions, but if that wasn't enough Chapter 4 shows it interacting with the physical environment to a 100% consistency and even getting harmed by Kris kicking it inside of a trash can.
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this is only after Kris takes the soul out of their body. with how they grab it (reaching through their own chest, leaving no wound) it's still clearly spiritual while still inside them
 
Comiphorous said:
2-B entity gets trash can tiered. this will be the greatest downgrade thread i will ever make.
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Oh that's what the Player is rated? Didn't know.

Yeah I mean tbf the soul is just a representation of us. It's always been a physical part of the verse. Never transcended it imo.

(Gaster might though)
 
would Kris now be considered Wall level due their soul enduring the KE of the bottle toss and they can harm it? I want to know since i'm implementing it and want to know if I can get rid of the possibly rating and have them just be Wall level now.
 
Do we know if they actually hurt us? I know they beat us up, but what if we're essentially a punching bag lol
 
us as an outer entity? no, not in the slightest. Us in game when they specifically take us out their body and makes us a floating red heart? They're able to make us hp so they're 100% capable of harming "us"
 
why don't we just redirect the damage to susie or noelle like we do in the dark world

are we stupid?
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
would Kris now be considered Wall level due their soul enduring the KE of the bottle toss and they can harm it? I want to know since i'm implementing it and want to know if I can get rid of the possibly rating and have them just be Wall level now.
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I don't think there's any way to tell if it did harm us, but we clearly survive it so it should scale I'd imagine

we can confirm we do take damage after Kris slams tf out of us in the Weird Route, so they probably scale physically aswell I'd imagine
 
Gooldiddy said:
I don't think there's any way to tell if it did harm us, but we clearly survive it so it should scale I'd imagine

we can confirm we do take damage after Kris slams tf out of us in the Weird Route, so they probably scale physically aswell I'd imagine
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I don't mean the bottle harmed us. Knocked us off balance, sure, but not harmed. I just meant in general that they can harm us and we can tank Wall level energy
 
applied the AP stuff to Kris (and Susie since she scales above them physical) but only applied the supersonic attack speed with projectiles to Kris since only they have shown that
edit: Also added it to the verse page. Heading to bed now
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
applied the AP stuff to Kris (and Susie since she scales above them physical) but only applied the supersonic attack speed with projectiles to Kris since only they have shown that
edit: Also added it to the verse page. Heading to bed now
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Shouldn’t this have been a crt? (Also it should’ve been added to the Delta Warriors profile as well)
 
Undertale's version may not be applicable since it survived the destruction of the timeline;

As for Deltarune, it seems more like the soul has no physical means of attacking, at least not without a vessel, which would explain the inability to destroy cages and other objects.
 
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