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Deku vs Ruby Rose (FCOC vs battles wiki version)
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Mapl3Sy4up
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Heh
this is. A ******* cursed thing I did not need to see today.
Anyways she seems to have nearly every advantage so giving Deku prep and time to analyze seems to be the only real Way for him to win, unless He can just use the joe star secret technique and keep throwing out attacks from KM’S away, or dusting her with smokescreen because she seems unable to see through it, in which User 6 is finally being useful.
Also his scaling is >>>5.8 KT so the difference is smaller
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Actually Deku has defeated Master’s at their own game before, like getting past Nagant and her sheer skill stompish advantages over any other combatant. or Stain who’s a complete master with the blade. So Skill may actually be in Deku’s favor, especially if he can glean that she’s stronger, so he’ll try and disarm her of her main weapon.
Perhaps a Fa-Jin+30%+Black Whip kick the the wrist will break it. After all 45% was able to remake 100%
And in the close quarters range Deku likes, the scythe is nearly useless, being more of a quarter staff than anything. Danger sense can alert him to any attacks which would be from behind or Ruby’s movements with petal burst (as we see danger sense give Deku semi tracking abilities). Even if it can change shape that’ll take time, which is bad against an opportunistic fighter like Deku
Once he gets her patterns down it’s essentially GG, Ruby‘s a competent leader but we’ve only seen her skills in team based abilities never alone. Against a strategist who can form multiple plans within seconds of each other, she’s out skilled and out smarted.
Deku may be out gunned, but against the 9th OFA user and the vestiges by his side, Ruby is out manned, out numbered and out planned.
Perhaps a Fa-Jin+30%+Black Whip kick the the wrist will break it. After all 45% was able to remake 100%
And in the close quarters range Deku likes, the scythe is nearly useless, being more of a quarter staff than anything. Danger sense can alert him to any attacks which would be from behind or Ruby’s movements with petal burst (as we see danger sense give Deku semi tracking abilities). Even if it can change shape that’ll take time, which is bad against an opportunistic fighter like Deku
Once he gets her patterns down it’s essentially GG, Ruby‘s a competent leader but we’ve only seen her skills in team based abilities never alone. Against a strategist who can form multiple plans within seconds of each other, she’s out skilled and out smarted.
Deku may be out gunned, but against the 9th OFA user and the vestiges by his side, Ruby is out manned, out numbered and out planned.
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Mapl3Sy4up
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Nah, more hit the wrist hard enough.
I dont actually know how fa-jin works with LS.
If we assume 30%+Black Whip+Fa-jin is a bootleg 45% in all aspects then maybe?
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Yeah.
I was thinking it as a bootleg 45% (
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Deku shattering his limbs every time he moves in 100%: imagine needing resistances
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Remember her ki attacks and the fact she can bend her bullets/ki attack and make her ki attacks auto lock track Deku as she spams more ki attacks (she 1v1 neo and won by taking advantage of the fact neo has no idea how to use ki despite being more skilled and rained down a bunch of ki blast that tracked her until she hit her and blasted her into the void)
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Deku if he ever disarms her in CQC range: 1V1 ME BRO
But yeah, that would be troublesome could he not yeet out blackwhips, we’ve seen him use them as decoys and grab items before suggesting he can also block things if he needs to.
Also the Mid Gauntlets and their 7-A durability but who cares bout that
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She knows her CQC suck without her weapon so she will respond with the same thing she did to neo, fly around and spam the hell out of ki blast, like I'm talking stardust falls amount of blasts being spamed here
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Deku can also fly?
And he can use blackwhip to increase mobility in the air or block.
And again, Mid Gauntlet with 7-A durability are amazing shields
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Deku later if he’s wining: THREE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THREE YEARS
Ruby: but it’s been two days
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I know danger sense would help but how about her uses her semblance to try and speed blitz in front of him and blast him point black off guard with a charged ki beam and then flying back just in case he wasn't affected or could dodge in time as she would definitely notice how he avoids her attacks before they hit him despite them being the same speed
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I mean probably won’t be to hard danger sense is direct hostility sensing + gives helpful dodging abilities (like sans but not annoying) so he could probably guard it
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At the bottom of the skill chain is aura users as a whole. While every living being in RWBY technically has Aura, actually being able to utilize it for things such as defense, regen, and senses requires years of training and a high enough degree of martial skill (and yes you actually need martial skill for it) that only a small percentage of the population of the entire planet ever become skilled enough to utilize their aura. Of that small percentage, an even smaller percentage ever become skilled enough to manifest/control a Semblance (yes semblances are also skill-based). To reach this small percentage comes to the second half of the bottom of the chain: Almost every character worth their salt in RWBY has spent their entire life training in combat and can fight hordes of Grimm with little issue (Almost because Jaune exists). The entirety of the main cast of RWBY was initially enrolled at Beacon Academy, one of the most prestigious combat schools in the world, with almost everyone who was accepted there having been trained for almost their entire life to fight monsters, and each one that was not professionally trained requiring a skill display overseen by Ozpin, who has the composite skill of several thousand professional huntsmen that he accumulated over his immortal lifetime.
Thats the baseline for skill in the verse.
Before the Beacon Arc Ruby had been personally trained by her uncle Qrow in combat and as a result she was noted as always excelling above her peers in combat training. At the start of the series Ruby was at a level of skill that even though she was two years away from being eligible to join Beacon she was admitted due her combat prowess impressing Ozpin, with him noting that she was already a master at wielding one of the most dangerous weapons ever designed. In combat Ruby is capable of taking on entire hordes of Grimm on her own and walking away without a scratch and utilizing the different functionalities of the Crescent Rose, such as the massive recoil from the rifle aspect of the weapon and the weapon's transformative capabilities, in tandem with each other and her Semblance in order to maintain an edge over her opponent. Basically every named character is around this level of skill in the early seasons.
Now for Velvet. Velvet is able to perfectly and instantly mimic the exact moves that she observes other people use in combat as well as utilize multiple different fighting styles simultaneously, both armed and unarmed. Thanks to Anesidora, Velvet is also able to copy fighting styles that utilize weapons, and she is able to wield the weapons that she copies just as effectively as their original user. To date that we know of, Velvet is able to simultaneously utilize the fighting styles and weapons of Ruby Rose, Yang Xiao Long, Weiss Schnee, Blake Belladonna, Nora Valkyrie, Sun Wukong, Penny Polendina, Coco Adel, Peter Port, Reese Chloris, Fox Alistar, Vega Bleu, Yatsuhashi Daichi, Russel Thrush, Roy Stallion, Neptune Vasilias, Brawnz Ni, Bartholomew Oobleck, Flynt Coal, Edward Caspian, and Scarlet David. Of note, every person listed spent their entire lives training in combat and several of them are professional huntsmen with decades of combat experience.
Moving up the chain we have Nebula Violette, who not only outmatched Velvet in a 1v1 test of martial arts skill, but was directly stated to be more skilled than Velvet in combat despite Velvet mixing numerous fighting styles to try to throw her off in their fight.
Above her is Pyrrha Nikos, the skill god of the Beacon Arc. Pyrrha is one of the most skilled students at Beacon Academy, having won every combat tournament she has entered since she was a pre-teen due to both her mastery of combat and mastery of her semblance, being able to apply it in combat completely undetected and having done so in almost every fight she's been in for over a decade, doing so with such skill and precision that she has lead many to believe she is untouchable and invincible as no one has been able to even land a blow on her in her combat career. Even without her semblance she has shown the ability to quickly and easily adapt to her combat situation and analyze her opponents while fighting and changing tactics to suit the situation she is in. She has shown extreme accuracy, being able to hit moving targets from hundreds of meters away and strike vital weak points on an opponent mid-combat both with and without the aid of her semblance. She is also highly skilled at using her weapon's multiple forms in combat, being able to switch between forms several times in rapid succession to both deliver rapid attacks and counter others simultaneously.
Then theres Mercury. Mercury is a veritable master of close combat, having spent his entire life training in pure martial combat to make up for his Semblance being stolen by his father. He is shown to be a very acrobatic and agile fighter who relies upon quickly overpowering his opponent with complex kicks that imply a near-mastery of martial arts that resemble Tae-Kwon-Do. He is also capable of a break-dancing style, similar to Capoeira, and makes use of Muay Thai as well. Despite his focus on kicks, Mercury also uses his hands to grapple, block or redirect enemy attacks. His experience and skill are aggressive and effective enough to drive even fighters of a high caliber, like Pyrrha, into a defensive position, with Word of God confirming that Mercury would defeat her if he fought her seriously. Due to his fighting style, Mercury relies on his swift and quick reflexes to counter and block his opponent's attacks as first demonstrated during his fight with Yang Xiao Long, altering the course of her punches and using his footwork to raise her fists and kick underneath or around her attacks. Despite the presumed awkwardness of his weapon's ranged capabilities he is a skilled marksman, able to shoot a phone out of a person's hand from a good distance away, and is proficient at using the many different forms of projectiles at his disposal to keep his opponents off balance. Mercury is also known to be observant, tactical, and analytical, able to notice and deduce the capabilities and limits of Pyrrha's Polarity Semblance after she uses it once during their brief fight, despite Pyrrha using it extremely subtly in combat and having spent her entire life honing her ability to hide her Semblance and its mechanics from her opponents and the general public.
Then there's the Ace Ops. For reference, Atlas Academy's vetting process is canonically more strict than Beacon's due to it being a military school on top of a Huntsman academy, so they only accept the best of the best. All of the members of the Ace Ops graduated top of their class from Atlas Academy, meaning that they are quite literally the best of the best of the best. Ruby not only outmatched Harriet Bree, but scales to the rest of her team in skill who also outmatched members of the Ace ops, Elm in particular being canonically the most skilled person out of all the ace ops, with Clover being the only member ranked above her in combat solely due to his semblance rather than outright skill, and Yang outmatched her in combat. Included in this group is also Winter, who spent her entire military career training to be the replacement host of the Winter Maiden and even without the Maiden Powers is considered the most skilled soldier in the Atlas Military.
Since this is Atlas Arc Ruby, she scales above the Ace Ops in skill from having beaten members of them in combat, scaling to her team who also beat members of the Ace Ops, and was directly acknowledged as being better than the Ace Ops in volume 7. This isn't even factoring in his skilled she is with KI from the dragon ball series
Thats the baseline for skill in the verse.
Before the Beacon Arc Ruby had been personally trained by her uncle Qrow in combat and as a result she was noted as always excelling above her peers in combat training. At the start of the series Ruby was at a level of skill that even though she was two years away from being eligible to join Beacon she was admitted due her combat prowess impressing Ozpin, with him noting that she was already a master at wielding one of the most dangerous weapons ever designed. In combat Ruby is capable of taking on entire hordes of Grimm on her own and walking away without a scratch and utilizing the different functionalities of the Crescent Rose, such as the massive recoil from the rifle aspect of the weapon and the weapon's transformative capabilities, in tandem with each other and her Semblance in order to maintain an edge over her opponent. Basically every named character is around this level of skill in the early seasons.
Now for Velvet. Velvet is able to perfectly and instantly mimic the exact moves that she observes other people use in combat as well as utilize multiple different fighting styles simultaneously, both armed and unarmed. Thanks to Anesidora, Velvet is also able to copy fighting styles that utilize weapons, and she is able to wield the weapons that she copies just as effectively as their original user. To date that we know of, Velvet is able to simultaneously utilize the fighting styles and weapons of Ruby Rose, Yang Xiao Long, Weiss Schnee, Blake Belladonna, Nora Valkyrie, Sun Wukong, Penny Polendina, Coco Adel, Peter Port, Reese Chloris, Fox Alistar, Vega Bleu, Yatsuhashi Daichi, Russel Thrush, Roy Stallion, Neptune Vasilias, Brawnz Ni, Bartholomew Oobleck, Flynt Coal, Edward Caspian, and Scarlet David. Of note, every person listed spent their entire lives training in combat and several of them are professional huntsmen with decades of combat experience.
Moving up the chain we have Nebula Violette, who not only outmatched Velvet in a 1v1 test of martial arts skill, but was directly stated to be more skilled than Velvet in combat despite Velvet mixing numerous fighting styles to try to throw her off in their fight.
Above her is Pyrrha Nikos, the skill god of the Beacon Arc. Pyrrha is one of the most skilled students at Beacon Academy, having won every combat tournament she has entered since she was a pre-teen due to both her mastery of combat and mastery of her semblance, being able to apply it in combat completely undetected and having done so in almost every fight she's been in for over a decade, doing so with such skill and precision that she has lead many to believe she is untouchable and invincible as no one has been able to even land a blow on her in her combat career. Even without her semblance she has shown the ability to quickly and easily adapt to her combat situation and analyze her opponents while fighting and changing tactics to suit the situation she is in. She has shown extreme accuracy, being able to hit moving targets from hundreds of meters away and strike vital weak points on an opponent mid-combat both with and without the aid of her semblance. She is also highly skilled at using her weapon's multiple forms in combat, being able to switch between forms several times in rapid succession to both deliver rapid attacks and counter others simultaneously.
Then theres Mercury. Mercury is a veritable master of close combat, having spent his entire life training in pure martial combat to make up for his Semblance being stolen by his father. He is shown to be a very acrobatic and agile fighter who relies upon quickly overpowering his opponent with complex kicks that imply a near-mastery of martial arts that resemble Tae-Kwon-Do. He is also capable of a break-dancing style, similar to Capoeira, and makes use of Muay Thai as well. Despite his focus on kicks, Mercury also uses his hands to grapple, block or redirect enemy attacks. His experience and skill are aggressive and effective enough to drive even fighters of a high caliber, like Pyrrha, into a defensive position, with Word of God confirming that Mercury would defeat her if he fought her seriously. Due to his fighting style, Mercury relies on his swift and quick reflexes to counter and block his opponent's attacks as first demonstrated during his fight with Yang Xiao Long, altering the course of her punches and using his footwork to raise her fists and kick underneath or around her attacks. Despite the presumed awkwardness of his weapon's ranged capabilities he is a skilled marksman, able to shoot a phone out of a person's hand from a good distance away, and is proficient at using the many different forms of projectiles at his disposal to keep his opponents off balance. Mercury is also known to be observant, tactical, and analytical, able to notice and deduce the capabilities and limits of Pyrrha's Polarity Semblance after she uses it once during their brief fight, despite Pyrrha using it extremely subtly in combat and having spent her entire life honing her ability to hide her Semblance and its mechanics from her opponents and the general public.
Then there's the Ace Ops. For reference, Atlas Academy's vetting process is canonically more strict than Beacon's due to it being a military school on top of a Huntsman academy, so they only accept the best of the best. All of the members of the Ace Ops graduated top of their class from Atlas Academy, meaning that they are quite literally the best of the best of the best. Ruby not only outmatched Harriet Bree, but scales to the rest of her team in skill who also outmatched members of the Ace ops, Elm in particular being canonically the most skilled person out of all the ace ops, with Clover being the only member ranked above her in combat solely due to his semblance rather than outright skill, and Yang outmatched her in combat. Included in this group is also Winter, who spent her entire military career training to be the replacement host of the Winter Maiden and even without the Maiden Powers is considered the most skilled soldier in the Atlas Military.
Since this is Atlas Arc Ruby, she scales above the Ace Ops in skill from having beaten members of them in combat, scaling to her team who also beat members of the Ace Ops, and was directly acknowledged as being better than the Ace Ops in volume 7. This isn't even factoring in his skilled she is with KI from the dragon ball series
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