Defeat My Live Action Team

[Noir888]

Let's find out if members of this wiki are knowledgeable about different stories/characters in movies/tv shows


So the challenge for you guys is to come up with another live-action character or team of characters who could defeat my team.


My Team


Tactics/Strategy/Tech/Resources:


Ozymandias - "Watchmen" (also doubles as a HTH/CQC Combat Specialist)


Clyde Shelton - "Law Abiding Citizen"


Jigsaw - "Saw"


Batman - "Batman V Superman" (also doubles as a HTH/CQC Combat Specialist)


Tony Stark - "MCU Version"


Black Panther - "MCU Version" (also doubles as a HTH/CQC Combat Specialist)


Assault:


John Preston - "Equilibrium"


Smith - "Shoot 'Em Up"


John Wick - "John Wick"


Wesley Gibson - "Wanted"


Captain America - "MCU Version" (also doubles as a HTH/CQC Combat Specialist)


Winter Soldier - "MCU Version" (also doubles as a HTH/CQC Combat Specialist)


CQC Specialists:


Ozymandias - "Watchmen"


Raizo - "Ninja Assassin"


V - "V for Vendetta"


Batman - "Batman v Superman"


Snake Eyes - "G.I Joe Rise of Cobra/Retaliation"


Storm Shadow - "G.I Joe Rise of Cobra/Retaliation"


Black Panther - "MCU Version"


Captain American - "MCU Version"


Winter Soldier - "MCU Version"


Rules:


Your team must only consist of 10-18 live action human movie/tv series only

characters


Your Characters must not exceed MCU Captain America's strength/speed/durabitlity/skill


Characters that uses power armor/mech suits for combat are not allowed


Characters that can manipulate time through the use of technology or through the use

of their own powers is not allowed


Super powered characters are not allowed (example deadpool, superman , ant man , wolverine, cyclops etc.)


Characters that uses magic or magical items/objects are not allowed

Composite Characters are not allowed


Video Game Characters are not allowed


Your team must hunt my team, but my team are aware that they are being hunted


Both teams has "Common Knowledge" intel about the other team


both team's tech/weapons/resources must only be provided from their "Tactics/Strategy/Tech/Resources Department"


The japanese army may intervene if things go out of hand


Both teams get 1 year of Preparation


CIS off


PIS off


Morals off


Location: Greater Tokyo Area


Provide some explanation on why your team beats mine

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

Some questions before i make my team, does the tactics/etc. team participate in battle?

If yes why do you have Iron Man there, he is far stronger that Captain and thus far stronger than anyone on the enemy team.

 

[Shozo_Irie]

In the rules he said that power armor/ mech suits are not allowed (even for Tony)

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

Ok, making my team right now, also this is the best battle i've ever seen on a thread.

 

[-BANLK-]

This guy stomps lol

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

Another question, what is CQC?If it is combat related what is its difference with Assualt?

 

[Shozo_Irie]

CQC: Close Quarter Combat

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

That makes little sense.

 

[Noir888]

Some questions before i make my team, does the tactics/etc. team participate in battle?
If yes why do you have Iron Man there, he is far stronger that Captain and thus far stronger than anyone on the enemy team.

not necessarily, tony's role is to provide tech/weapons/resources

 

[Noir888]

Another question, what is CQC?If it is combat related what is its difference with Assualt?

assualt department may use any weapons(guns, knives, swords) while in cqc they are only limited to melee weapons or h2h skills.

the main role of the assualt department is to attack the other teams hideout/bases or provide support firepower (e,g long range sniping)

 

[Noir888]

In the rules he said that power armor/ mech suits are not allowed (even for Tony)

tony will not be participating in combat, his roles is only to provide tech/weapons/resources

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

Tactics/Strategy/Tech/Resources:

1.Batman (The Dark Knight Trilogy)

2.Tyrion Lannister (A Song of Ice and Fire)

3.Sherlock Holmes

4.Bobby Singer (Supernatural)

5.Green Arrow (CW)

Fighting (Not sure about the CQC and Assualt temrs so i'll just call this the fighting part of the team)

5.Green Arrow (CW)

6.Star Lord (MCU)

7.Falcon (MCU)

8.Hawkey (MCU)

9.Bane (The Dark Knight Trilogy)

10.Gregor Clegane (The mountain) (A Song of Ice and Fire), if the undead version of him can't be used then the regular version.

11.Aragorn (LotR)

1.Batman (The Dark Knight trilogy)

3.Sherlock Holmes

12.Bryan Mills (Taken)

13.Harley Quinn (DC movies)

14.Rocky Balboa (Rocky 4)

15.Black Widow (MCU)

16.Sam Winchester (Supernatural)

17.Dean Winchester (Supernatural)

18.Captain Jack Harkness (Not sure if this counts as he is immortal), if he can't be used then Red Skull (MCU)

Not sure if my team can do it, since there aren't that many live action humans that can compare to Captain America, Bucky and the Black Panther but characters like Red Skull, The Mountain (Gregor Clegane), Bane, Batman, Green Arrow should give them a decent fight.

 

[Noir888]

Tactics/Strategy/Tech/Resources:1.Batman (The Dark Knight Trilogy)
2.Tyrion Lannister (A Song of Ice and Fire)

3.Sherlock Holmes

4.Bobby Singer (Supernatural)

5.Green Arrow (CW)

Fighting (Not sure about the CQC and Assualt temrs so i'll just call this the fighting part of the team)

5.Green Arrow (CW)

6.Star Lord (MCU)

7.Falcon (MCU)

8.Hawkey (MCU)

9.Bane (The Dark Knight Trilogy)

10.Gregor Clegane (The mountain) (A Song of Ice and Fire), if the undead version of him can't be used then the regular version.

11.Aragorn (LotR)

1.Batman (The Dark Knight trilogy)

3.Sherlock Holmes

12.Bryan Mills (Taken)

13.Harley Quinn (DC movies)

14.Rocky Balboa (Rocky 4)

15.Black Widow (MCU)

16.Sam Winchester (Supernatural)

17.Dean Winchester (Supernatural)

18.Captain Jack Harkness (Not sure if this counts as he is immortal), if he can't be used then Red Skull (MCU)

Not sure if my team can do it, since there aren't that many live action humans that can compare to Captain America, Bucky and the Black Panther but characters like Red Skull, The Mountain (Gregor Clegane), Bane, Batman, Green Arrow should give them a decent fight.

pretty solid team.

but lets look at bigger picture here

in terms of the tacticians/strategy/tech/resources, my team edges it out.

first sherlock holmes, is not that good in preping for an all out battle, he is only good at investigations/analysis (which i think is a very good asset for your team, but it will not help them any further in formulating any battle strategies)

batbale vs batfleck, i think they have the same wealth/resources, but batfleck edges it out (he prepped so hard he nearly beaten superman)

with the combined wealth of ozy,stark, black panther & batfleck my team has practically unlimited resources (example, black panther provides some vibranium weaponry) + with clyde's knowledge about explosives & poisons and jigsaw's elaborate traps, so my strat team takes it

second, my assualt/cqc department is full of speedsters (ozy caught a bullet, storm shadow cut a bullet in half, raizo has the speed blur technique), speed is big factor in any fight.

the other members of my team like preston, smith and gibson are low end bullet timers. they will be providing some long range sniping.

your assualt/cqc are outgunned and outskilled here

in conclusion my team still takes it 8/10

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Tech/Prep

1. Moriarty (BBC version)

2. Eddie Morra (Limitless)

3. Dr. Charles Graiman (Knight Rider)

4. The Doctor (BBC) can only use the SS

5. Q (Bond Movies)

6. Ernst Blofeld (Bond Movies)

Fighters/Combatants

7. Nolan (Defiance)

8. James Bond (Bond Movies)

9. Ace Rimmer (Red Dwarf)

10. Master Chief (Forward Unto Dawn) without power armour

11. Tony Montana (Scarface)

12. William Cage (Edge of Tomorrow) without mech suit

13. John Mcclane (Die Hard 3)

14. John Connor (Terminator Salvation)

15. Ellen Ripley Clone (Alien 4)

16. K.I.T.T (Knight Rider 2008) If I can't use K.I.T.T, I'll use Data from Star Trek.

17. Sun Wukong (The Forbidden Kingdom)

18. Orgrim Doomhammer (WoW)

I'm hoping that the prep guys can use their genius to provide a good strategy and provide good technology for my combatants.

Most of my combatants are people who have great experience fighting in wars, or have just generally good combat experience.

 

[Noir888]

Tech/Prep
1. Moriarty (BBC version)

2. Eddie Morra (Limitless)

3. Dr. Charles Graiman (Knight Rider)

4. The Doctor (BBC) can only use the SS

5. Q (Bond Movies)

6. Ernst Blofeld (Bond Movies)

Fighters/Combatants

7. Nolan (Defiance)

8. James Bond (Bond Movies)

9. Ace Rimmer (Red Dwarf)

10. Master Chief (Forward Unto Dawn) without power armour

11. Tony Montana (Scarface)

12. William Cage (Edge of Tomorrow) without mech suit

13. John Mcclane (Die Hard 3)

14. John Connor (Terminator Salvation)

15. Ellen Ripley Clone (Alien 4)

16. K.I.T.T (Knight Rider 2008) If I can't use K.I.T.T, I'll use Data from Star Trek.

17. Sun Wukong (The Forbidden Kingdom)

18. Orgrim Doomhammer (WoW)

I'm hoping that the prep guys can use their genius to provide a good strategy and provide good technology for my combatants.

Most of my combatants are people who have great experience fighting in wars, or have just generally good combat experience.

master chief & doomhammer are out (video game characters are not allowed)

sun wukong is also out , he is not even human & he has super powers.

anyways, you tactician/strategy team are actually geniuses in their respective movies/series but we have to consider the foes they faced and how did they handle that foe using their intellect

first, blofeld with his insanse wealth/resources/intellect was still outsmarted/foiled by a playboy

second, eddie morra only faced a nzt-48 addict, he didnt faced any serious opponents in the movie (but given the fact that morra can practically learn anything in matter of hours he may be the MVP in your strategy department)

Q & graiman only provides the tech, they didnt displayed any high prep feat

i dont know much about moriarty & the doctor (can you provide some high prep feat about them),

second my strategy department faced more dangerous foes (example ozymandias outsmarted the whole world and outsmarted doc manhattan, batfleck prepped so hard he nearly beaten superman, stark with his tech provided the avengers with much needed help to save the world, clyde shelton with his intelligence assassinated alot of people whilst being impisoned etc.). by considering those prep feats my strategy teams outpreps yours + with practically unlimited resources ( tech from stark,ozy & batman + vibranium weaponry black panther) your strat team is outclassed here

third, my assualt/cqc still takes this, speed will still be the determining factor + guys like preston, smith, gibson providing long range sniping. your guys are outgunned

my team takes this 8-9/10

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Master Chief & Doomhammer have been in movies.

The Doctor is like Batman with prep but a lot more insanely better at prep. Read his intelligence.

Moriarty is the criminal mastermind equivalent to Sherlock.

NZT-48 gives you a four digit IQ, surely that makes you a smart person at just about anything? It's stated that he masters stuff just from glancing at things.

K.I.T.T btw.

Maj. William Cage (Edge of Tomorrow)

I think with the tech my guys provide, it doesn't really matter who they're up against as they can just make technology that'll enhance them enough to make speed useless.

 

[Noir888]

Master Chief & Doomhammer have been in movies.
The Doctor is like Batman with prep but a lot more insanely better at prep. Read his intelligence.

Moriarty is the criminal mastermind equivalent to Sherlock.

NZT-48 gives you a four digit IQ, surely that makes you a smart person at just about anything? It's stated that he masters stuff just from glancing at things.

K.I.T.T btw.

Maj. William Cage (Edge of Tomorrow)

I think with the tech my guys provide, it doesn't really matter who they're up against as they can just make technology that'll enhance them enough to make speed useless.

but still the rules may apply to them because the two are originally video game characters

second, which incarnation of the doctor are we talking about?

yeah moriarty is criminal mastermind which makes him more vulnerable ( batman took down dozens of "criminal masterminds")

the movie didnt specify if morra did actually have a 4 digit i.q may be he was just exaggerating the effects of nzt

cage is practically immortal which makes off limits in this battle

i though K.I.T.T was human lol (which makes him off limitis to this battle considering thr fact that you put him in your assualt/cqc)


your team doesnt have the tech to beat mine (stark, wayne & black panthers beats your team in tech department)

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

"your team doesnt have the tech to beat mine" ---> The Doctor

Intelligence: Supergenius. Over 2000 years of experience allows him to know incredible amounts of things about the universe, including every known language and various technologies. Expert knowledge on genetic engineering. Has practically entire history books of knowledge in his brain for Earth. His own intelligence is enormous; he has created a bomb that could destroy all life on one surface of the Earth in an hour out of trash, rivaling Tony Starkand MacGyver. In one instance he outsmarted an AI from a race that were clear expys of The Culture. He has on several encounters and different incarnations been able to defeat both Eternals and Guardians of Time, on one occasion turning a group of them mortal. Overall, handing him preparation for a match, even only an hour's worth, is like handing Batman any sort of prep and the utility belt combined.

 

[Noir888]

"your team doesnt have the tech to beat mine" ---> The Doctor

Intelligence: Supergenius. Over 2000 years of experience allows him to know incredible amounts of things about the universe, including every known language and various technologies. Expert knowledge on genetic engineering. Has practically entire history books of knowledge in his brain for Earth. His own intelligence is enormous; he has created a bomb that could destroy all life on one surface of the Earth in an hour out of trash, rivaling Tony Starkand MacGyver. In one instance he outsmarted an AI from a race that were clear expys of The Culture. He has on several encounters and different incarnations been able to defeat both Eternals and Guardians of Time, on one occasion turning a group of them mortal. Overall, handing him preparation for a match, even only an hour's worth, is like handing Batman any sort of prep and the utility belt combined.

you must remember that the doctor has no combat role, hence he only provides tech that may suit to the fighters and time travelling is not allowed, if he is only restricted to the tech in the present time then his abilities to prep/ to provide tech is limited.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I know, but he can make weapons that can be used against the opponents.

I'm pretty sure that with the technology of the modern day setting, he could make weapons that can be used to destroy everyone instantly.

 

[Noir888]

I know, but he can make weapons that can be used against the opponents.
I'm pretty sure that with the technology of the modern day setting, he could make weapons that can be used to destroy everyone instantly.

my team can provide more tech/weapons (they have the wakanda's resources at their disposal)

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I think my team has access to enough resources (Q has access to the British government plus Moriarty and Blofeld have access to a whole criminal network)

Having more resources is redundant if my team can build equipment that can out perform anything by the opposition.

If you honestly think that the Doctor can't build anything with 1 year of prep that can't instantly win, I honestly don't know what else I can say. I know I haven't used him as a combatant, but this is because with prep he can solve an equation that gives him god-like powers which is just too OP.

I hope I haven't come across as a jerk BTW. I feel like I have talked like a complete horrible person for which I apologise if I have done so.

 

[Noir888]

I think my team has access to enough resources (Q has access to the British government plus Moriarty and Blofeld have access to a whole criminal network)
Having more resources is redundant if my team can build equipment that can out perform anything by the opposition.

If you honestly think that the Doctor can't build anything with 1 year of prep that can't instantly win, I honestly don't know what else I can say. I know I haven't used him as a combatant, but this is because with prep he can solve an equation that gives him god-like powers which is just too OP.

I hope I haven't come across as a jerk BTW. I feel like I have talked like a complete horrible person for which I apologise if I have done so.

yeah the big factor in this fight will be the tech, can the doctor build a nuke in just a year? if he can then my team loses on the expense of millions of japanese people dying lol

but if we add the other department (cqc & assualt), even if the tech that the doctor will provide i think my guys can still win it, i didnt saw any fighter in your team that can contend in mine even if its 1 v 1

in conclusion, if the doctor can build a nuke/or anything similar in a just 1 year my team loses but if not my team wins it

i thought i was the one who is being a a-hole lol

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Some of the Doctor's prep feats:

The Doctor built a device that can fry everyone's minds on one side of the Earth with scrap. Albeit this was in a satellite in the year 200,100.

He also built a Tardis using junk Tardis parts

He built a computer virus using nothing but an ordinary phone.

I honestly think that building a bomb is easy given the resources. Even giving the Doctor a weeks prep time is enough let alone a year! Lol

Not sure if this matters but the Doctor is an alien, but there is a human incarnation (the human meta crisis)

I'm hope we can be friends!