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Death Thirteen Expansion

Promestein

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Mannish Boy's page is bad and basically useless, telling nothing about how Death Thirteen uses its powers and what it can do with them. It doesn't even list standard Stand powers, and misses several fundamental parts of how Death Thirteen operates.

Death Thirteen should have;

  • Hair Manipulation (Turned Polnareff's hair against him)
  • Memory Manipulation (When a victim wakes up, they lose their memory of the dream world and forget that Death Thirteen is after them)
  • Metal Manipulation (Caused the metal of a Ferris wheel cart to become pliable and amorphous, trapping Kakyoin in it)
  • Weather Manipulation (Drew together clouds in the dream world and controlled them)
  • Duplication (Duplicated itself, and one of its clones shapeshifted into Star Platinum)
  • Healing (Healed Kakyoin's injuries)
  • Immersion (The Stand introduced itself by exiting a tarot card)
  • Limited Power Nullification (Stands cannot be summoned inside the dream world because the sleepers' spirits are off-guard and cannot defend themselves)
It should also be Wall level physically, as it was able to pummel Jotaro while shapeshifted into Star Platinum.

I can get scans if needed. I just read through the chapters and I'm too lazy to go back and get all the relevant scans right now.
 
I agree. Also, powers done within the dream world should be listed separately in the profile.
 
Death Thirteen has only been shown to be active in the dream world and is probably powerless in the real world. There's no point in dividing them when it hasn't been shown doing anything anywhere else.
 
Well, the "Immersion" into the dream world is done from the real world, the Memory Manip only affects there as well.
 
No, that was in the Dream World, the first time Kakyoin fell asleep.
 
With "Immersion" I meant trapping others into the dream world, which he does from reality. Meanwhile he can't do the same twice within the dream world or erase memories of others while they are still there.

Although I don't feel that much confident over the idea anymore, it's nothing a good elaboration wouldn't achieve.
 
That's just Dream Manipulation
 
I agree with all of this.

Though, wouldn't it better to say: "with Dream Manipulation, he can..." and then add all the stuff he did in the dream world?

It fits with the description of Dream Manipulation:

"The greatest users of this power can completely control the world of dreams as another plane of reality, toying with it and altering dreams according to their whims"
 
I dunno how I feel about that, Death Thirteen is portrayed to be physically weak and I don't think we can scale everyone who injures Jotaro to Building level. His durability is inconsistent.

I'll update the page and leave Death Thirteen's stats unknown physically.
 
This seems fine to me as well.
 
Is there anything left to do here?
 
Well, I can close this thread if it is finished.
 
You can politely ask Promestein to comment here again if you wish.
 
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