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Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Discussion Thread

darkphantom9805 said:
Deadpool is no world implied to be that strong from any of the films bruh and TvA agents are basically regular humans plucked from their time

So that’s not really that impressive
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TVA Agent are considered Loki tier here. So unless you make a crt changing that, they scale to this
 
Emerald said:
TVA Agent are considered Loki tier here. So unless you make a crt changing that, they scale to this
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Yeah because it specifically it ignores the fact the nerf Loki I think there was even a wog statement somewhere saying he was nerf

And Brad or that guy name literally got scared of human street thugs just like a normal human in that situation would do in no world does that imply They could take a thrashing from the hulk like Loki did

It doesn’t even make sense for them to be Loki tier we are told TvA agents were just regular humans plucked from their time not asgard/frost giant tier bruh
 
What is all this Wanda talk? Is obviously that Wanda’s hax doesn’t reach all the way to the Void at the end of time. Is a separate dimension with its own space-time.
 
It could be that the TVA agents armor is made of adamantium making their stats equal to Loki.
 
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AppleLord said:
What is all this Wanda talk? Is obviously that Wanda’s hax doesn’t reach all the way to the Void at the end of time. Is a separate dimension with its own space-time.
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That's right, and it shouldn't even be a surprise that the darkhold that Wanda destroyed isn't related to the wundagore 616 universe alone. They were disconnected from each other, not connected as was previously thought to be the original, and she destroyed the rest of the original as well
 
oh brother, why dont all you people just watch the movie when it comes out for you instead of wanting to be spoiled on a vsbw thread
 
sanicspood said:
oh brother, why dont all you people just watch the movie when it comes out for you instead of wanting to be spoiled on a vsbw thread
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If myself and others don’t have a problem with it, why is it an issue? 🤔 I already have tickets. I’m going to see it over the weekend but knowing the spoilers doesn’t affect my enjoyment of the overall content.
 
There is no actual fight shown between Wolverine and Hulk, the montage cuts away before it can actually start.
 
For not being one for Wolverine, in general, having super soldier level strength, I enjoyed these super soldier level Wolverines. That first throw of Wade throw a wall was epic.

Did I miss Wade breaking adamantium?
 
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Reyne said:
For not being one for Wolverine, in general, having super soldier level strength, I enjoyed these super soldier level Wolverines. That first throw of Wade throw a wall was epic.

Did I miss Wade breaking adamantium?
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I think people are referring to Wade using Logan's skeleton in the intro? But I don't think he was snapping the actual bones in half, just the decayed ligaments, cartilage, etc.
 
So either everyone scales to Fox mutants, which would be High 8-C, or they scale to TVA goons, who are Low 7-C scaling off of Variant Loki.

Either way, Blade upgrade
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Do we know what hulk that Deadpool took a hit from also I wonder if this could be used as intent that Wolverine could fight hulk?
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From the reflection on Wolverine's claws, it was 2018 Hulk from Thor Ragnarok, or they just didn't want to waste money on a reflection and used an old scene. Probably the second one is the answer and it was a completely different Hulk since it was a different timeline. But we could take it as it was Thor Ragnarok version of Hulk from the reflection i guess.
 
Bernkastelll said:
can someone explain to me since when Deadpool was retcon?
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IIRC

X-Men Movies 1 to 3, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, The Wolverine, and X-Men First Class are considered the original timeline

Deadpool in X-Men Origins: Wolverine
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X-Men: Days of Future Past is what created the new timeline

X-Men Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Logan, and New Mutants are part of the new timeline

And because the cast of the new timeline X-Men have an appearance in Deadpool 2: @0:50


And also because he traveled to the other timeline and killed the original version of Fox Deadpool:


Deadpool 1 & 2 are also considered part of the new timeline.

Deadpool in the new timeline
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Okay, saw the movie yesterday.

TVA soldiers were not retcon to match Deadpool in strength. Every time TVA Agents fought Deadpool Deadpool was trolling and slicing them like butler. He even held one by the neck and shock him to death.

Anyone else saw Deadpool pull a She-Hulk at the end during the post-credit scene? Deadpool went to the TVA and changed a part of the movie to have Human Torch say everything he said to make himself look good by controlling the K.E.V.I.N. robot inside the cage and changing the “lens” hence that part of the movie to Deadpool’s vision.

She-Hulk couldn’t control the K.E.V.I.N. robot right?
 
Wait Wade controlled K.E.V.I.N.? I don't remember that.
 
Nope, that didn't happen. Johnny already has said all those things, they just cut the scene right before he does. I just rewatched the movie to see more details since i was kinda hyped on the cinema. Deadpool doesn't control kevin or anything and he can't.

Anyway, i wanted to mention that Cassandra Nova was able to suck all the matter and anti-matter from the Time Ripper, which was strong enough to erase a timeline. Cassandra's aim was not to use the Time Ripper but suck its energy and kind of become it. Being strong enough to erase timelines on her own and destroy the multiverse. She should have multiversal+ durability to host the energy to erase a timeline. I mean, yeah a few regular bullets from Pyro pierced her but it was because of Juggernauts helmet blocking her every kind of abilities, even weakening her physically, as we can understand from how she fell. Before that, the only thing to harm her was Deadpool's little knife and Wolverine's Claws. All of those weapons are Adamantium so i don't see anything thats aganist her durability. Wolverine's claws have cut through Molecule Man's and Beyonder's skin in the comics. Adamantium is simply one of the strongest if not the strongest material you could have.

So, the explosion of the Time Eraser killed Cassandra Nova, that would mean its explosion had a higher destructive power than directly erasing a timeline. And the reason it doesn't blew up the Timeline withit is because Deadpool, Wolverine and Cassandra were taking all the energy in them.

Deadpool's and Wolverine's costumes were somehow fine after the explosion... Of course i am not giving them multiversal+ durability for that but its kind of interesting.

The only one from the movie getting 2a tier is probably Cassandra.

I wonder if Allioth could kill Deadpool or Wolverine.
 
Casandra didn't absorb all the energy. She absorbed some of it and, as you say, that made her stronge. And as she got stronger and stronger, eventually she would be strong enough to handle all the energy. So she didn't have 2-A durability at the beginning.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
Wait Wade controlled K.E.V.I.N.? I don't remember that.
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Yes, at the end post-credit scene. Deadpool told Human Torch to go and keep talking and immediately move his hand and the K.E.V.I.N. robot in the bag moved his “lens” from the film to another one. The whole point of the scene was Deadpool changing the movie to favor him and make him be right.
 
Please stop with the Cassandra wank and fan made feats. She didn’t absorbed any energy. She used the machine while the other characters were trying to conduct the energy backwards to overload the machine. Her goal was to use this machine to destroy the timeline and the other timelines one by one. But she didn’t even knew how this machine work until she went on Paradox mind and surely was gonna be erased with this universe and never accomplished her said goal to erase any other timeline. The machine requires someone to be there and get erased with the universe as shown with the spaghetti affecting the machine. Paradox never used this machine himself. Even at the beginning of the movie he mentioned something about this machine been something created it. By its content, the machine seemed to hold a lot of those machines that Silvy collected in season one.
 
AppleLord said:
Yes, at the end post-credit scene. Deadpool told Human Torch to go and keep talking and immediately move his hand and the K.E.V.I.N. robot in the bag moved his “lens” from the film to another one. The whole point of the scene was Deadpool changing the movie to favor him and make him be right.
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Nope, go rewatch him they cut the scene right before Johnny says the things he said about Cassandra. In the end Deadpool just shows the scene to us to prove himself right.
 
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