DBZ Toei: Lifting Strength Upgrade

[Quantu]

Small lifting strength update.

Anime Cell physically stopped the momentum of an asteroid, before blowing it to pieces.



According to the Lifting Strength page, "The weight of small moons or small asteroids" is Class P.

So Perfect Cell tier characters and above from DBZ Toei and DGBT should have their lifting strengths changed from Class G to Class P (Also, the "at least Class G, likely higher/much higher" characters will be changed to "at least Class P, likely higher/much higher").

 

[SamanPatou]

That's way too small though, they don't all weight that just for the sheer virtue of being small asteroids regardless of their size.

Besides, I believe that stopping something floating around in zero gravity would require much less strength than what's needed to sustain its entire mass.

 

[Quantu]

Is there any lowball calculation that just takes the size values from the on screen segment (in comparison to Cell)?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

That's way too small though

We do not see its full size. The only shot of the asteroid in its entirety is a faraway shot.

 

[StekFence]

U could at least use the amount shown with cell stopping it, tho it would prob be super low with the zero gravity and all

 

[SamanPatou]

Is there any lowball calculation that just takes the size values from the on screen segment (in comparison to Cell)?

I doubt that, but the rock thrown by Frieza seems to be bigger, ot at the very least not that far from this one.

We do not see its full size. The only shot of the asteroid in its entirety is a faraway shot.

The part stopped by Cell doesn't seem to be an infinitesimal piece, but the fact we don't see how big it really is makes the feat even more unrealiable.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

We do not see its full size. The only shot of the asteroid in its entirety is a faraway shot.

Flower man, you had a whole lifting strength CRT that you abandoned for some reason it had feats that go from class P to class Y. You should just use that instead.

 

[Quantu]

Class Y? say what

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Class Y? say what

Yeah namek saga Goku lifted a planet or something.

 

[Quantu]

Could be Vegeta's hallucination of Goku, followed by a planet moving towards him. This would be a very dubious "feat"

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Yeah Vegeta was definitely tripping balls there

 

[Quantu]

I'll try and get a lowball calc of the Asteroid feat based on on screen sizes asap. Doubt it actually leads something above Class G but eh

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Vegeta sensed a ki signature that felt like Goku, then a whole planet starts moving out of no where in a completely impossible unnatural way, then asteroids start getting thrown specifically aimed at vegeta then an aura is visible where vegeta sensed the ki.
I believe this at the very least warrants a "possibly" rating considering there's no other explanation.

 

[StekFence]

Why would goku do that tho

 

[StekFence]

He does a little trolling?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

He does a little trolling?

Testing out instant movement.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Testing out teleportation by throwing a planet at vegeta, damn

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

A minuscule amount of tomfoolery

 

[Quantu]

I mean, if Goku was practicing IT, it could make sense if you say that Vegeta was the only large Ki signature he could lock on too that wasn't Cold or Frieza at the time

But I don't know tbh

 

[Quantu]

I gave the asteroid calc a quick attempt.... lowballs left and right...

Perfect Cell halts an Asteroid

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[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Do we have Cell to scale the size in the second shot?

Also, Goku is stated to be 5'9 I think, so you can scale Cell's height from that

 

[Quantu]

Pointless. Cell's been drawn differently scale to scale, panel to panel and scene to scene in the anime. It's been a heavily contested issue for a while.

6*8 was the most common concensus I found while just browsing the height thread on Kanzenshuu.

Plus, I doubt it would make a difference anyway to the result

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Pointless. Cell's been drawn differently scale to scale, panel to panel and scene to scene in the anime. It's been a heavily contested issue for a while.

6*8 was the most common concensus I found while just browsing the height thread on Kanzenshuu.

Plus, I doubt it would make a difference anyway to the result

Do you have the exact scan saying Cell is 6'8?

And if Cell don't appear in the second shot at all then I don't think you really can scale that

 

[Quantu]

There isn't a scan saying Cell is 6*8, there's no official heights for him from my search. I browsed a lot of DBZ height threads and forums and this was what I found most people thought Perfect Cell's height would be.

And yeah the feat is unusable unless extremely lowballed to compensate, and such a lowball doesn't give good results

 

[Quantu]

What's the consensus on here about Gohan's Deadzone feat? that should still be an upgrade

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

There isn't a scan saying Cell is 6*8, there's no official heights for him from my search. I browsed a lot of DBZ height threads and forums and this was what I found most people thought Perfect Cell's height would be.

And yeah the feat is unusable unless extremely lowballed to compensate, and such a lowball doesn't give good results

Then this cannot be used. We do not calculate size based on people's opinion with no scans to support it.

Goku do seems to have a canon height of 175 cm according to Daizenshuu 7, so you can scale Cell's height from there

 

[Quantu]

This calc is not meant to be used but just a fun estimated lowball. There's not enough close ups of Cell and the whole Asteroid

Yes, and even ignoring that Cell's height is drawn inconsistent in relation to Goku from panel to panel, taking any height from 6*0 to 9*0 wouldn't yield better results than Class M based on the lowballs