DBZ movies chronologically speaking

[PaChi2]

When are the dbz movies supposed to take place and what shouldnt be in there if they were canon?

For example:

1) The World's strongest: Goku knows kaioken and genki dama therefore it must have happened between Saiyan Saga and Namek. However, piccolo is alive and Im not sure if more Z warriors who should be dead are alive. If piccolo were dead the movie couldnt have taken place because no dragon wish would have melted the ice of the evil lair.

Next:

The Tree of might.

 

[Amexim]

Tree of Might has Goku going more than Kaio-Ken x4, like, up to ten. Meaning this Goku is the Goku flying to Namek at that point in the story. Except Yamcha and the others are STILL ALIVE.

How do these things even come about in their AU? We would have to manipulate the situations so much that it doesn't even seem possible from the perspective of the canon.

Cooler's Revenge could be canon with very few problems. It can take place after Trunks showed up— though I don't know why Cooler wouldn't show up with his dad and brother, except for if he just hated him that much.

His Return doesn't make sense at all though. Somehow, Goku and Vegeta are both Super Saiyans, and not in any compromised position, but aren't fighting or training to fight the androids. Everything literally happens back to back in the cell saga.

The Super Androids can't really make sense either. Trunks has no reason to be in the past unless he knew about them. If we ignore that, it could be an inbetween when Gero and 19 show up. Still, Trunks would have to have not known about these ones at first.

Broly could make sense if it takes place between the 10 day period. Only problem is that Goku and Gohan aren't always in SS.

The Second and third Broly movies could take place before the tournament that Goku came to.

Wrath of the Dragon should also be canon. There's, like, no problems as far as I remember.

 

[PaChi2]

You forgot Slug's, Janemba's and Bojack's movie.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

To be fair, the Earlier DBZ movies are harder to squeeze in the canon of the Anime, but the more recent ones are easier to place. The Dead Zone seemingly takes place before Raditz and after Dragon Ball, but Krillin seems to know Gohan already. World's strongest appears to take place after Goku trains with King Kai, but before the Battle of the Saiyans, but Goku and the others are back on Earth, so that seems contradictory as well. Tree of Might seems to take place after that battle with Vegeta, be before going to Namek, but all the Z fighters are alive for some reason. Lord Slug I simply have no idea, it seems really difficult to squeeze in. Goku has a Pseudo Super Saiyan form, so before Frieza most likely, and Piccolo isn't considered a Super Namek, so he doesn't appear to be merged with Kami, but they're PL's all seem stronger than the Ginyu Force.

Coolers Revenge and Return of Cooler seem more linear. After the Battle with Frieza, but before the battle with the Androids. Unsure about Super Android 13, but should be before they fight Cell or use the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and around the same time 17 and 18 are awake. Though Goku has recovered from Heart Virus it seems. Broly, most likely during the 10 day gap while waiting for the Cell games. Bojack would be after the battle with Perfect Cell but before Future Trunks returns to his timeline.

Broly 2nd coming could be before Goku visiting Earth, but it would have to be after Videl met Goten. Bio Broly seems to be shortly after the tournament Goku entered; it starts with 18 demanding the money Hercule promised, but Goku doesn't appear and neither does Majin Buu. Could take place while Goku fights Majin Vegeta or Majin Vegeta fights Majin Buu, but before Goten and Trunks arrive. Fusion Reborn seems to take place after Goku returns to the afterlife, but Gohan is back home for some reason. Buu's Fury's version makes a lot more sense, but the movies have stuff to make Buu's Fury's lineage controversial. Wrath of the Dragon is obviously between battle with Kid Buu and well before GT; it's where Trunks got his sword.

 

[HST_Master]

Bojack could fit seeing as how it's after the Cell Games and Goku is dead

Fusion Reborn seems to be a what if Goku beat Buu when he could've.

Bio Broly couldn't fit since it seems to be a what if Buu never showed in the 1st place with 18 wanting her money post WT.

Wrath of The Dragon, 1st Broly movie, Second Broly movie, Bojack,and the 1st Cooler movie are the only ones that could be comfortably canon.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Though, All of these villains make cameo appearances in both GT and in a Buu saga filler where the villains in Hell are watching Goku fight Kid Buu. Hard to squeeze these movies into the canon, but somehow it is canon to GT.

 

[PaChi2]

I want theories on when Lord Slug's movie takes place ovo

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

That's probably the hardest movie to squeeze in...

 

[Amexim]

Dead Zone also doesn't make sense. Because then Goku would probably want to train Gohan himself. Or something. Point is, that new power of Gohan's is no longer surprising. Oh, and who the hell is Gohan. Goku has a KID!!!?

And, you're right, I did forget about those. Janemba's can't fit because it needs to exist in a scenario where Vegeta and Goku are both dead— where Gohan and Videl are together/he possibly has his ultimate power— where Goten and Trunks have Gotenks available— all without Buu...? My guess is it can be if Vegeta has successfully killed Buu with his self destruct..?

Lord Slug could also take place after the Saiyan Saga but before the Namek saga...?

But now, to make it make sense. We can do this 2 ways. Change the movies to fit Canon, or change the canon to fit movies. I'm gonna do what I think is cool, flip flopping between my headcanon where the other humans are relevant and when they're weak?

Obviously, Dead Zone takes place before Raditz. Krillin just met Gohan in the movie and doesn't know he's Goku's kid until the end of the movie. Then, after Goku and Krillin agree to meet at the reunion. Piccolo makes a mental note of the Kid's power.

Goku and Gohan go to the reunion, and the only one not there is Bulma— sick of Yamcha's stuff. The entire group is there, Tien and Chaotzu included. They get stomped by Raditz. They team up with Piccolo. Get stomped by Raditz again. Gohan Headbutta Raditz. Goku full Nelson's. Everyone has to watch Goku get Makan-capped in the ass, powerless to do anything. Raditz gloats as Goku dies. All of them shuffle over and stomp him to death after he chokes out that in two years, 2 more Saiyans will show up. Someone meantioned the Dragon Balls before killing them. Starting up the issues with the Saiyans. 2 years gives Goku enough time to train. Hops back to earth within a year and continues there. Either they stomp Nappa or both of them are still strong enough to give them a challenge, but Nappa dies, Vegeta loses, everyone lives. Then they die against Turles. Then Lord Slug comes here and they learn about Namek as he monologues or something? Goku gods false super Saiyan or taps into the real thing for a hot second. That's when Namek takes place.

Goku Beats Frieza using Super Saiyan. Cooler finds out. After Frieza comes back, Cooler appears in the middle of the gap before androids 17 and 18 come out. At some point before that, they already wished everyone back and for new Namek btw. Goku kills Cooler, Cooler comes back, Goku kills him again on New Namek, along side the new and improved Super Vegeta, who came to new Namek after sleeping with Bulma.

Comes back, and Trunks was waiting for them. Turns out he forgot to mention, like, 3 more Androids that they defeated. Trunks wanted to help anyway. So that explains why he's there with them. He was just waiting for the Androids to show up. Left to go check on his time again though— maybe to have that Trunks be killed by Cell and another Trunks come by, ignorant of what the last one did. Fights Cell, who only needed the stronger ones, 17 and 18. Things proceed as normal until the Cell Games. In that 10 Day period, either cell went off planet to some place else to cause some destruction— went into a hybernation mode that made him miss Broly and Hatchiyak. In both of those movies, Goku and Gohan were in constant SS training, except for when they lost consciousness.

Cell Games. Then Bojack. Gohan stops training because school. Picked it up before the tournament. Trained Videl. In that gap, Broly 2 happens. Tournament. 18 wins. The Kais do show up, as does Spopovitch and Yamu. Everything plays out normally, except the whole process Babidi was on required more prep. So when they tried to go to the Ship, they were too late. It flew off planet again. The Kais stay on earth, knowing that they have to absorb Ki to summon Buu, and there's no efficient way to do it other than to use Earth.

Goku teaches the boys Fusion. Gohan and Videl hit it off. Ignoring the possibility that Gohan has Mystic, Janemba's movie happens as it should, except Vegeta fell into hell because of the laws of life and death being warped. The Kais had to go back to their own world to handle the issues with the Universe being warped by Janemba. Vegeta helps Goku, and at the end of the movie gets warped back to the Living World by King Yemma. The Broly 3 movie happens. A few weeks later, ya boi Babidi is back. Gohan and Vegeta go with the rest of the Z fighters to storm Babidi's ship. They fight Dabura, Pui-pui, and Yakon with no issues. Dabura fights EXTRA HARD against both Vegeta and Gohan, dying in the process of gathering enough energy to summon Buu. Vegeta and Gohan get stomped by Buu. Piccolo and the others could only watch. After Gotenks loses against Buu, Piccolo snatches up Trunks and Goten and takes them to train, bargaining with Buu for the "strong guy" to be ready in a day or so. Buu kills Babidi because he was trying to get Buu to kill Piccolo instead. Buu meets Hercule on his killing spree, and Super Buu appears. Piccolo and the rest of the crew, including Videl had to just watch on the lookout as this happened. Then Buu came to them and killed everyone but Piccolo, who almost died trying and failing to protect them. They trained and fought Super Buu, and Failed. Vice Shout scene happens. They do it too after training. Goku and the Kais had to watch as Buu and Gotenks fight. Gohan gains Mystic and saves them in the nick of time, but it's not enough. Piccolo and Gotenks get absorbed. Elder Kai gives Goku his life, and Vegeta revives too. Goku tried to fuse with Gohan, and couldn't, so he fused with Vegeta, and you know the rest. And Wrath of the Dragon happens before Battle of Gods. There we go!

 

[TurboTriangle601]

World's Strongest: Piccolo doesn't die in the battle against the Saiyans.

The Tree of Might: Nobody dies in the battle against the Saiyans.

Lord Slug: Takes place a few months or so after the Tree of Might.

Cooler's Revenge: Goku killed Freeza with the Spirit Bomb and there are no remains of him left so Mecha Freeza can't exist so Cooler takes his place.

The Return of Cooler: Goku had to be revived (due to the heart virus) and Cell was killed by Trunks right off the bat.

Super Android 13: Androids #17, #18 and Cell were killed early on and #13, #14 and #15 come into play.

Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan: After they toke care of #17 and #18 (but not Cell) they travel to the South Galaxy.

Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans: Cell is replaced with Lychee and Hatchiyack, Possibly killed.

Bojack Unbound: After the Cell Games. (obviously)

Broly - Second Coming: Takes place after the World Tournament but the Majin Boo Saga never happened. Goku's still in other world.

Bio-Broly: Takes place after Second Coming and #18 is revived by Krillin (As stated before she was dead in the first Broly movie.)

Fusion Reborn: Majin Boo is gone for good early on but they have to deal with Janemba.

Wrath of the Dragon: Takes place after the Majin Boo Saga.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

tbh the movies shouldn't be canon to the anime nor GT

just because the villains appear in GT doesn't make the movies canon

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

the only arguably canon movie for Z is Dead Zone

 

[HST_Master]

^ The filler saga does anyway

Wrath of The Dragon and Cooler's Revenge both fit perfectly

 

[PaChi2]

Tbh cooler's revenge doesnt make sense because Goku never used Kaioken again since he became super saiyan. Also random resurrection of a bird and inability to transform into a super saiyan at will.

 

[Huesito88]

Hatchiyack movie treats Cooler, Slug, Broly, and Turtles as Canon in its own movie.

 

[PaChi2]

>Slug

>Canon to anything

If anyone is capable of giving me a reasonable timeframe in which that movie took place, I concede. lol

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

each movie is only canon to their respective movie timelines

 

[PaChi2]

Then why are they canon to GT and anime.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

they shouldnt be

but because some of the villains appeared in hell in GT. "They are"

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Dark649 explained multiple reasons why; Filler characters frequently appear in movies, movie characters frequently appear in Filler, and both appeared in GT.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

only Garlic Jr appeared in the fillers

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

as is why I mentioned dead zone being arguably the most canon to the anime

 

[Amexim]

If they appeared in GT, they should be canon. You really don't need more than that. Asking for anything more is just being dismissive.