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DBS gohan

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Unfortunately the majority agreed to downgrade the profiles. No need to throw a hissy fit because you didn't get your way. Grow up. The edit shouldnt have been made in the first place.
 
@Matt

directly from the discussion rules:

"Avoid creating Dragon Ball Super upgrade threads until the end of the Tournament of Power/Universe Survival Arc. Characters have showed wildly varying power levels over the course of this arc and it would be best to postpone any statistics revisions until it is completed."

The gohan upgrade ocurred after that rule was in place.
 
@matt on what grounds gave you permission to make gohan 3-A when we ALL agreed from the last thread we would not touch gohans profile until the arc was over. Than you go and make the changes anyway without anyone noticing.
 
LordAizenSama said:
Unfortunately the majority agreed to downgrade the profiles. No need to throw a hissy fit because you didn't get your way. Grow up.
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Aizen, it's not a hissy fit. Yeah, a wrong majority is salty that Gohan is as strong if not stronger than Blueberry Goku. It's the equivalent of illiterate people in 300 BC Greece arguing that the Earth is flat and thinking they are right because of numbers.
 
Grudgeman1706 said:
@matt on what grounds gave you permission to make gohan 3-A when we ALL agreed from the last thread we would not touch gohans profile until the arc was over. Than you go and make the changes anyway without anyone noticing.
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Grudge.

First of all, on the same thread it was agreed that it could be placed at 3-A if say, the narrator literally stated that Gohan = Goku, which he did.

Secondly, the downgrades were bullshit then and are bullshit now.

Thirdly, if you people have to lie, argue with numbers instead of arguments, deny what happens on screen and show 0 understanding of Ki control, you are not being legitimate.
 
I'm looking at the scans, and here's what I see.

-Gohan asking his father to fight at full power

-Goku turning Super Saiyan Blue

-Gohan and Goku exchanging punches at that point

-Goku using Kaio-Ken to win the fight

If Gohan were so inferior to SSJB Goku, the last two things wouldn't have happened.
 
@Debunking

"No, u"

Great argument. Now show any evidence that Gohan isn't as strong as Blueberry because we're 90 posts in and you haven't shown a single one.
 
Matt, Ever, you don't get to decide what happens based on your opinions of the fight. Just saying it's fact when clearly many have been interpreting it differently shows it is not clear cut. Wait until the arc is over.
 
@Debunking

Have you see Seth's videos? There's a difference between me saying Gohan is 3-A and Seth saying that Xenoverse Goku is High 2-A.

Also, insulting users (Much less staff) won't get you anywhere in a debate.
 
matt i don't think you even watched the fight. gohan went full power once with ssj2 goku and the ki he gained was insane. then he says see my full power and just flys at goku ssb. the first power up is the only power up.

ssj2 goku=ultimate gohan

ssb goku>>>>>>>>ultimate gohan

ssbk goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ultimate gohan
 
Just wait until the arc is over before upgrading anyone, just like the discussion rules suggest:

Avoid creating Dragon Ball Super upgrade threads until the end of the Tournament of Power/Universe Survival Arc. Characters have showed wildly varying power levels over the course of this arc and it would be best to postpone any statistics revisions until it is completed.

Its not big deal to wait and then upgrade gohan to 3-A based on whatever happens in that tournament.
 
Pikachu942 said:
Matt, Ever, you don't get to decide what happens based on your opinions of the fight. Just saying it's fact when clearly many have been interpreting it differently shows it is not clear cut. Wait until the arc is over.
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You guys are literally the only people arguing with opinions and numbers.

I am arguing with factual and contextual analysis of the scene, am not using any headcanons, am showing gifs and screenshots.

You people seem to forget that.

  • Gohan regained his Hidden Potential which Vegeta admitted was stronger than he and Goku.
  • The entire purpose of the episode was to show the return of Gohan as one of the strongest Z Warriors much like in the Buu Saga, with the return of Ultimate Gohan
  • Gohan constantly grows in strength during his fight with SSJ2 while constantly demanding his father to fight serious.
  • Goku goes Blueberry as a result and Gohan visibly powers up, and announces four times that he is fighting at full strength (Which makes all the arguments that he was at 100% from the get go laughable)
  • The two clash. Gohan dashes again with even more strength, blocks a punch from Goku and punches Goku many feet away.
  • Goku is forced to use Kaioken to defeat Gohan
  • Gohan is stated by the narrator to be Goku's equal
 
Please explain me HOW Gohan went full power against SSJ2 if he only used full power against Blue?

GohanVsBlue
GohanForces
These statements (And Gohan clashing) both make no sense if Gohan was at 100% during the beginning of the fight, mmm...
 
I'm sorry to say this Matthew, but you should be not disrespectiful against other users just because they don't agree with your opinion and showing to react in a agressive and not polite way. You were warned several times about this and if you continue like this you will lose your position.
 
Jeez, stop insulting each other. I won't hesistate to close this thread. No exceptions.

I agree with Ever and Matt, however Dark649's idea is the best solution. Wait for the damn Tournament of Power. It's that simple. Goodness...
 
The majority of people in the last topic, including multiples mods and admins IIRC, said to keep the downgrades. The fact this was even changed is completely ignoring the conclusion reached last time, and also goes against our rules. Honestly, a suspension or demotion should be a punishment for this.
 
the last 4 are your headcanon

goku went ssb because gohan asked him to

he punched ssb goku many feet away absolutely doesn't equate to "force goku to ssbk" goku went ssbk to show gohan his full power.

narrator as evidence is like saying toriyama is a good source for evidence, not to be mean but the guy is not fine mentally.
 
The Everlasting said:
If SSJB Goku were that far superior, he wouldn't have used Kaio-Ken in the first place.
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Errr, 3-A krillin then?

Gohan ASKED for goku to transform. He was not forced to by any means. You think Gohan forced Goku to ssb in two punches?
 
@Pikachu

Numbers don't matter if they are wrong.

@Debunking

Goku went SSB to show his full strength, 100%, as Gohan demanded and Gohan was winning against SSJ2. Gohan straight up tanked a punch from SSB and punched him away. Goku needed Kaioken to win. In-Universe omniscient narrators are acceptable.

@Dark649

Yes, I was disrespectul, but so were a ton of people here towards me.
 
@Aizen

Gohan asked Goku to use his full-strength, which Goku responded by going SSB.

Obvious conclusion is that Goku wasn't suppressed while in Blue mode, and the fact that Gohan could tank punches from Goku and stagger Goku away, force Goku to go Kaioken to win and the narrator statement all confirm it.

Using the Kuririn argument is a hilarious false equivalency and you know it. Kuririn is weaker than Base Gohan (Pre-Ultimate Form).
 
Vegeta himself did admit that Gohan's potential is stronger than them. Gohan has always been stronger than Goku and Vegeta, potentially or otherwise.

In any case, one little skirmish isn't going to sway many people. Okay cool...whatever. We can simply wait. I'm a patient man.
 
The fact is, no one has showed any proof that Gohan doesn't scale to Blue Goku. And you people disliking it isn't an argument to revert the upgrade when it is legitimate.
 
Im having the same conversation with my brother lol.

Anyway its pretty clear they want Gohan this high and there are this that support this and I can agree with 3-A Gohan but I agree on waiting because people are getting real heated about Gohan in general.
 
I'm not arguing one side or the other, Matt, I'm arguing you shouldn't have gone against majority rule or the rule to the site that was added SPECIFICALLY because of this
 
goku's full strenght isnt ssb its ssbk thats why he went into ssbk

he didnt need kaioken to win thats an assumption

andd you were disrespectful first
 
@Debunking

That makes absolutely no sense, and involves headcanons.

You people say that Goku didn't even need SSB, and yet try to justify him needing to use Blueberry Kaioken to defeat Gohan.

lol

The only logical explanation if the one supported by the narrative: That Gohan matched Super Saiyan Blue Goku.
 
plenty people have debunked your headcanons but you keep repeating them.

god ki is far beyond mortal ki. you can't use the potential excuse anymore as long as goku and vegeta have god ki gohan is inferior to them.

gohan went full power when he transformed into his mystic form. ssj2 goku then manhandled gohan and gohan turned it around getting hits in then it went back to trading punches till gohan asks goku to go full power.

goku then enters ssb and flies at gohan with gohan blocking and landing a punched that moved goku (which is what you're trying to say FORCED GOKU INTO SSBK) then goku then ackowledges gohan and shows him his true power one shottting him.

THATS HOW THE FIGHT WENT THERE WAS NO POINT IN TIME IN WHICH GOHAN ONESIDEDLY BEAT GOKU
 
First of all, it is imperative that anyone makes a Content Revision thread before upgrading/downgrading anything.

Second of all, the Narrator and Vegeta have already given us statements that indeed lean more towards Gohan being 3-A.

Finally, it's best to wait for the end of the arc unless blatant and obvious evidence is presented.
 
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