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i can't find any examples of dbs recaps being false but thats not a good source for gohan being ssb level
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DBS gohan
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Matthew the majority didn't agree with you the first time and I'm not sure if a lot of people will agree with using the recap as a justification to upgrade Gohan. Maybe that's why there wasn't a content revision thread?
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It's not the only source. Read his AP carefully and watch / read every link to learn why.Debunking101 said:
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again rivaled means equal. no way the little scuffle they had is justification
he only beat after ssbk because gohan asked for full power goku. ssb isn't his full power goku still had ssbk and in order for gohan to be pleased he changed to ssbk. kinda like with majin vegeta
no it doesn't the narrators voice is just a voice over its not in sync with the scenes so it could be any scene and it wouldnt matter
there was no stomp. infact look at goku's body after the fight no indication of injury at all, all the "stomping" in ssj2 didnt show and we know goku doesnt heal after transforming so we can't say going ssb healed him.
he only beat after ssbk because gohan asked for full power goku. ssb isn't his full power goku still had ssbk and in order for gohan to be pleased he changed to ssbk. kinda like with majin vegeta
no it doesn't the narrators voice is just a voice over its not in sync with the scenes so it could be any scene and it wouldnt matter
there was no stomp. infact look at goku's body after the fight no indication of injury at all, all the "stomping" in ssj2 didnt show and we know goku doesnt heal after transforming so we can't say going ssb healed him.
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Once again, Debunking, you are not being reasonable.
Once you have to dismiss what actually happened and invent headcanons you are drinking too much kool-aid. We need to accept what goes on screen.
Once you have to dismiss what actually happened and invent headcanons you are drinking too much kool-aid. We need to accept what goes on screen.
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headcanon is saying "gohan ragdolled goku" when that didnt happen. saying "gohan equals a full power ssb goku" because of their little scuffle. and using the narrator as evidence
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>didn't happen.
Are you going to ignore the scans again? Wow.
What does this look like to you?
Are you going to ignore the scans again? Wow.
What does this look like to you?
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and on his ap its the same gifs you showed me already
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Yeah, I show you again because you deny reality.
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again you're showing me a clip of a 2min fight what do you expect me to do
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7LPtIcD8qI
watch from the 1:20 mark and tell me gohan ragdolled goku
watch from the 1:20 mark and tell me gohan ragdolled goku
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He did.
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I reopened the thread because I have something to say and this topic of gohan being placed universal even though we SAID we wouldn't do anything until the arc was over.
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who opened it
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He's 3-A.PaChi2 said:
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@Matt you know how you keep ranting to everyone about using out of context scans, you're legit doing the exact same thing.
Also why are you ignoring the fact before the fight even began gohan told Goku at SS2 he was fighting at full power. It's tedious to repeat oneself from the previous thread
Says it right here before the fight and than after Goku starts beating him dow
You keep telling everyone that gohan was ragdolling Goku at SS2 but failed to mention how previously in the beginning gohan was getting manhandled by SS2 Goku.
This legit the next thing he says after he was beating on Goku with the scan you provided.
I'm not assuming absolutely anything. Goku was ragdolled by suppressed Gohan while a SSJ and got repeated demands to go all out, turning SSB and clashing with Gohan. The later was later stated to rival Goku in power. There is no argument to be had
Again if you are honest when you said you watched the full episode you would see BOTH gohan and Goku at SS2. Were beating each other down, just proving to us that gohan at full power=SS2 Goku, heck the second half where gohan is beating down Goku is when gohan starts telling Goku to get serous cause he was starting to hold back
Says this Goku and than Goku gets caught off guard and is parryed and thrown further in the air.
Honestly I thought we all agreed after the last thread that we wouldn't do anything to go hand profile until AFTER the universal Survival arc but their it is gohan being placed universal without anyone noticing.
Also why are you ignoring the fact before the fight even began gohan told Goku at SS2 he was fighting at full power. It's tedious to repeat oneself from the previous thread
Says it right here before the fight and than after Goku starts beating him dow
You keep telling everyone that gohan was ragdolling Goku at SS2 but failed to mention how previously in the beginning gohan was getting manhandled by SS2 Goku.
This legit the next thing he says after he was beating on Goku with the scan you provided.
I'm not assuming absolutely anything. Goku was ragdolled by suppressed Gohan while a SSJ and got repeated demands to go all out, turning SSB and clashing with Gohan. The later was later stated to rival Goku in power. There is no argument to be had
Again if you are honest when you said you watched the full episode you would see BOTH gohan and Goku at SS2. Were beating each other down, just proving to us that gohan at full power=SS2 Goku, heck the second half where gohan is beating down Goku is when gohan starts telling Goku to get serous cause he was starting to hold back
Says this Goku and than Goku gets caught off guard and is parryed and thrown further in the air.
Honestly I thought we all agreed after the last thread that we wouldn't do anything to go hand profile until AFTER the universal Survival arc but their it is gohan being placed universal without anyone noticing.
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"Also why are you ignoring the fact before the fight even began gohan told Goku at SS2 he was fighting at full power."
Because he wasn't. If he was he wouldn't repeat himself about using his full power. Goku even asks him to fight seriously mid-fight which proves that he wasn't at full power in the beginning. It is you who is ignoring context now.
"You keep telling everyone that gohan was ragdolling Goku at SS2 but failed to mention how previously in the beginning gohan was getting manhandled by SS2 Goku"
Because he was even more suppressed at that point. Odd that you put a scan saying that Gohan was at full power but contradict yourself a paragraph later.
"Again if you are honest when you said you watched the full episode you would see BOTH gohan and Goku at SS2. Were beating each other down, just proving to us that gohan at full power=SS2 Goku, heck the second half where gohan is beating down Goku is when gohan starts telling Goku to get serous cause he was starting to hold back"
No, if you are honest you would admit that Gohan was suppressing himself against SS2 and only used 100% of his power against SSB, as he visibly powers up before charging against SSB and announces that he's using his full strength four times.
Because he wasn't. If he was he wouldn't repeat himself about using his full power. Goku even asks him to fight seriously mid-fight which proves that he wasn't at full power in the beginning. It is you who is ignoring context now.
"You keep telling everyone that gohan was ragdolling Goku at SS2 but failed to mention how previously in the beginning gohan was getting manhandled by SS2 Goku"
Because he was even more suppressed at that point. Odd that you put a scan saying that Gohan was at full power but contradict yourself a paragraph later.
"Again if you are honest when you said you watched the full episode you would see BOTH gohan and Goku at SS2. Were beating each other down, just proving to us that gohan at full power=SS2 Goku, heck the second half where gohan is beating down Goku is when gohan starts telling Goku to get serous cause he was starting to hold back"
No, if you are honest you would admit that Gohan was suppressing himself against SS2 and only used 100% of his power against SSB, as he visibly powers up before charging against SSB and announces that he's using his full strength four times.
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Because people got triggered Gohan was matching Goku even though his AP proves he does, really.
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with your argument we could just say goku was supressed in ssb.
goku ragdolls gohan. you : he was supressed
gohan ragdolls goku. you : goku was at full power
gohan literally lands one punch on ssb goku. you : gohan is ssb level
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goku ragdolls gohan. you : he was supressed
gohan ragdolls goku. you : goku was at full power
gohan literally lands one punch on ssb goku. you : gohan is ssb level
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"with your argument we could just say goku was supressed in ssb"
No it couldn't.
We have evidence that Goku and Gohan were both under various levels of suppression when the former was at SSJ2, and the later's intention was for his father to fight him at full power and that was what he kept demanding of him, and what compelled Goku to go Blueberry. The two do clash and Goku needs Kaioken to beat Gohan. If he was so suppressed he wouldn't need it, he'd just stop being suppressed under Blueberry. Add the narrator statement and there's no argument that Gohan scales.
No it couldn't.
We have evidence that Goku and Gohan were both under various levels of suppression when the former was at SSJ2, and the later's intention was for his father to fight him at full power and that was what he kept demanding of him, and what compelled Goku to go Blueberry. The two do clash and Goku needs Kaioken to beat Gohan. If he was so suppressed he wouldn't need it, he'd just stop being suppressed under Blueberry. Add the narrator statement and there's no argument that Gohan scales.
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Because he wasn't. If he was he wouldn't repeat himself about using his full power. Goku even asks him to fight seriously mid-fight which proves that he wasn't at full power in the beginning. It is you who is ignoring context now.
You mean how gohan kept repaying he was at full power to Goku Wwhile he was at SS2, no Goku never asked him to fight seriously mid fight unless your referring to how they collided their kamehamehas and Goku said to put more power into his kamehameha which is NOT the same as saying he wasn't fighting seriously. The only person holds back mid fight was
Because he was even more suppressed at that point. Odd that you put a scan saying that Gohan was at full power but contradict yourself a paragraph later
Contradict what m8, gohan was by no means suppressing himself at all, the only person suppressing himself was Goku and in fact if you watch the second half of the fight when gohan starts beating down on goku, gohan tells Goku to start for fighting seriously which just proves my case that gohan isn't above SS2 Goku.
No, if you are honest you would admit that Gohan was suppressing himself against SS2 and only used 100% of his power against SSB, as he visibly powers up before charging against SSB and announces that he's using his full strength four times
That isn't called honesty, I'd be lying if I said that. So he's gathering the already established full power he had into his fist and managed to get two blows that did squat to SSB goku.
You mean how gohan kept repaying he was at full power to Goku Wwhile he was at SS2, no Goku never asked him to fight seriously mid fight unless your referring to how they collided their kamehamehas and Goku said to put more power into his kamehameha which is NOT the same as saying he wasn't fighting seriously. The only person holds back mid fight was
Because he was even more suppressed at that point. Odd that you put a scan saying that Gohan was at full power but contradict yourself a paragraph later
Contradict what m8, gohan was by no means suppressing himself at all, the only person suppressing himself was Goku and in fact if you watch the second half of the fight when gohan starts beating down on goku, gohan tells Goku to start for fighting seriously which just proves my case that gohan isn't above SS2 Goku.
No, if you are honest you would admit that Gohan was suppressing himself against SS2 and only used 100% of his power against SSB, as he visibly powers up before charging against SSB and announces that he's using his full strength four times
That isn't called honesty, I'd be lying if I said that. So he's gathering the already established full power he had into his fist and managed to get two blows that did squat to SSB goku.
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yes we could
no we don't. its just your assumptions, gohan says when goku is in ssj2 that he's going full power and he releases a massive aura, thats 100% gohan. goku still in ssj2 beats gohan to shit then gohan beats goku to shit then realizes that goku still isnt full power, then he asks goku to go full power ad goku goes into ssb (which isn't his full power) then gohan punches goku once then goku decides f**k it and goes ssbk to one shot gohan.
where in that entire fight did you see a onesided gohan beatdown
and narrator as evidence is a new low
no we don't. its just your assumptions, gohan says when goku is in ssj2 that he's going full power and he releases a massive aura, thats 100% gohan. goku still in ssj2 beats gohan to shit then gohan beats goku to shit then realizes that goku still isnt full power, then he asks goku to go full power ad goku goes into ssb (which isn't his full power) then gohan punches goku once then goku decides f**k it and goes ssbk to one shot gohan.
where in that entire fight did you see a onesided gohan beatdown
and narrator as evidence is a new low
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Matt your versions of events have so much headcanon it's not funny. two punches and Goku is forced to use SSBKK? lol.
Agree with the others who want to revert the upgrade. (That is the majority of people, fyi)
Agree with the others who want to revert the upgrade. (That is the majority of people, fyi)
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"You mean how gohan kept repaying he was at full power to Goku Wwhile he was at SS2, no Goku never asked him to fight seriously mid fight unless your referring to how they collided their kamehamehas and Goku said to put more power into his kamehameha which is NOT the same as saying he wasn't fighting seriously."
Yes it does. Goku asks Gohan to put more power. and the fact that both Goku and Gohan grow in power during the fight proves that they under various levels of suppression.
Seriously, it's obvious. You don't need everything spoonfed to you to understand.
"Gohan wasn't suppressing"
Except he was, or else he wouldn't have various levels of performance against Goku through the match as they fight, and he wouldn't state four times that he was using his full power against SSB.
>Gohan isn't above SS2 Goku
Let's see... Gohan is suppressing himself against SSJ2 Goku and ragdolls him around. Forces Goku to go SSB. Clashes with SSB. Is stated by the narrator to be equal to Goku. Goku only beats him by using Blueberry Kaioken. And he awakened his Ultimate Power which Vegeta and Goku both know and admit is stronger than them.
And yet you claim he isn't above SSJ2? What level of denial are you on?
> Did squat against SSB Goku
Pushed Goku many feet away and forced Goku to use Kaioken to win. If Goku was so suppressed as you claim he wouldn't need Kaioken..
Once again, Gohan scales to Blueberry Goku, and the evidence is that he's somewhat above SSB Goku but beneath Kaioken Blue.
Yes it does. Goku asks Gohan to put more power. and the fact that both Goku and Gohan grow in power during the fight proves that they under various levels of suppression.
Seriously, it's obvious. You don't need everything spoonfed to you to understand.
"Gohan wasn't suppressing"
Except he was, or else he wouldn't have various levels of performance against Goku through the match as they fight, and he wouldn't state four times that he was using his full power against SSB.
>Gohan isn't above SS2 Goku
Let's see... Gohan is suppressing himself against SSJ2 Goku and ragdolls him around. Forces Goku to go SSB. Clashes with SSB. Is stated by the narrator to be equal to Goku. Goku only beats him by using Blueberry Kaioken. And he awakened his Ultimate Power which Vegeta and Goku both know and admit is stronger than them.
And yet you claim he isn't above SSJ2? What level of denial are you on?
> Did squat against SSB Goku
Pushed Goku many feet away and forced Goku to use Kaioken to win. If Goku was so suppressed as you claim he wouldn't need Kaioken..
Once again, Gohan scales to Blueberry Goku, and the evidence is that he's somewhat above SSB Goku but beneath Kaioken Blue.
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The only people using headcanons are you and grudge claiming Gohan isn't above SSJ2 Goku, lmao.LordAizenSama said:
Don't care about majority if the majority is denying reality.
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Just because people are salty doesn't mean we should deny truth.Dark649 said:
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once again thats not how the fight went down
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I agree with others on reverting the upgrades.
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Gohan overpowered SSJ2 Goku, forced him to go SSB, matched 100% SSB, and forced Goku to go Kaioken to win.Debunking101 said:
You have to be on like, 4 different levels of headcanon and denial to not see this.
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It will not be reverted.Pikachu942 said:
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nope
ssj2 goku and gohan where equal. then gohan asked goku to try then goku went ssb. then went ssbk to truly show gohan his 100% an finish the fight
ssj2 goku and gohan where equal. then gohan asked goku to try then goku went ssb. then went ssbk to truly show gohan his 100% an finish the fight
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