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David Martinez Vs Chisato Nishikigi (Cyberpunk: Edgerunners Vs Lycoris Recoil)

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David Martinez Vs Chisato Nishikigi

Post-Timeskip David will be used
Attack Potency: 419,500 Joules
Durability: 419,500 Joules
Lifting Strength: Peak Human


Chisato Nishikigi
Attack Potency: 1,895,449 Joules (0.02022 Tons of TNT Post CRT)
Durability: 1,895,449 Joules (0.02022 Tons of TNT Post CRT)
Lifting Strength: Peak Human

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Speed is equalized
Fight takes place near Arasaka Tower
Chisato has prior knowledge on Sandevistan and it's speed


Fight OST:

 
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since David is the faster of the 2, his Hypersonic and Massively Hypersonic+ with Sandevistan are all brought down to Chisato's combat speed which is Subsonic+

essentially meaning she'll retain her Supersonic reaction speed likely means she'll have no problem avoiding most of, if not all of David's shots esp given he can only use the Sandevistan a limited number of times before it starts to put strain on his body.

David also lacks any real proper combat skills, something Chisato has in strides due to her former training in warfare likely making her the far better shot alongside her Analytical Prediction and far superior intelligence reading David like an open book

as for stats, Chisato is 4.5x stronger, likely higher given she upscales from her value, than David meaning her bullets, despite being non-lethal per her Standard Tactics and equipment means they'll pack more punch against David well he has to rely on getting past her predicting all his shots since Chisato is a genius at recognizing trajectories of projectiles and shot timings, to the point where aiming specifically at her would be a detriment.

She has the reaction speed needed to avoid Sandevistan due to speed equal, the real formal training to land her shots more consistently, and AP needed to take this far more often than David could.
 
But then again it’s nigh difficult to land a shot onto her even if you have a point blank shot at her at very close distance
 
its a really good amp and would likely cover her reaction speed being far higher than her combat speed but her Analytical Prediction is smth David just has no true answer towards in conjunction with her reaction speed, just by looking at the movement of his clothing and/or muscles, she'll be able to predict his next move and where he's moving to insure her shot lands where it needs to despite his amp.

imo she's just has the skill, Ap, analytical prediction, and reactions needed to win the shoot-out far more often than David could
 
He looks to have enough firearm skill to use the Kang Tao L-69 Zhuo that have smart homing projectiles. Just a start, since his trump card is his Sandy.
 
he's not unskilled with firearms just no where near what Chisato could do with her basic M1911 given her real training in the field and dealing with people just as skilled as she is. As a child, she single-handedly stopped a massive terrorist event and when she grew up, she fought against an entire group of armed mercenaries and defeated them non-lethally, its to the point shes regarded as a genius in combat alongside how intelligent she is at recognizing trajectories of projectiles and shot timings, to the point where aiming specifically at her would be a detriment hard countering the fact they home in since well thats aiming AT her

David is decent at best but the fact he has no actual training with firearms compared to Chisato, who's been doing it since she was a child, puts the advantage massively in her favor

as for the Kang Tao L-69 Zhuo, they may home but that doesn't insure they'll actually hit her, she has a bulletproof/impact-proof backpack which comes with a bulletproof airbag, both of which she could use to defend herself against the Kang Tao L-69 Zhuo after predicting the trajectories and shot timings
 
following this thread but Ill just open by saying Sandevistan's speed boost should allow David to fill her with lead in that time period given it snails people comparable to him (And is Hypersonic to MHS+ as an amp while Chisato's reactions are just Supersonic above her Subsonic+. Way smaller gap. And the gaps of speed amps are maintained.
 
following this thread but Ill just open by saying Sandevistan's speed boost should allow David to fill her with lead in that time period given it snails people comparable to him (And is Hypersonic to MHS+ as an amp while Chisato's reactions are just Supersonic above her Subsonic+. Way smaller gap. And the gaps of speed amps are maintained.
Should still be hard to hit her right?
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since David is the faster of the 2, his Hypersonic and Massively Hypersonic+ with Sandevistan are all brought down to Chisato's combat speed which is Subsonic+

essentially meaning she'll retain her Supersonic reaction speed likely means she'll have no problem avoiding most of, if not all of David's shots esp given he can only use the Sandevistan a limited number of times before it starts to put strain on his body.
Do you realize how much faster Sandevistan is than her even in speed equal? David's Sandevistan is 403.505191961x faster than his base speed. If David got decreased to her speed, he'd be hundreds of times faster than her reactions (Specifically 221.34x faster than her reactions)

He would statue her and dump 500 bullets directly into her head from every angle around her.
 
Should still be hard to hit her right?
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tbh yeah if when he's running around her he shoots lots of bullets expecting them to skewer her once he turns off sandevistan. But on a second speed boost if he just does it point blank in several locations she should still be cooked cause there's only so much skill can do against that kind of speed gap
 
Time to dissect this.
They start by shooting bullets
David also does have the tendency to go CQC (albeit shown only once), but he will spam the shit out of his Sandy.

David also lacks any real proper combat skills, something Chisato has in strides due to her former training in warfare likely making her the far better shot alongside her Analytical Prediction and far superior intelligence reading David like an open book
So here's the thing, David's considered not as skilled in the cyberpunk universe in comparison to other legends due to his overreliance on cyberware (namely his iconic Sandy), but keep in mind that in a world like cyberpunk, you're dead meat if you aren't able to hold your own even for a day as a merc. Pre-Timeskip David was lucky af, but in this key, he's seasoned enough to take on a good number of maelstrom gangoons, who mind you are borged out with a good amount of combat cyberware. Pairing what he has with the speed of the sandy, he's able to catch Arasaka soldiers offguard, which have their own can of cyberware to pull up, beyond skill. As I've said, David's skill in his own series might not be the likes of Morgan Blackhand, but against Chisato, he's giving her a run for her money.

as for stats, Chisato is 4.5x stronger, likely higher given she upscales from her value, than David meaning her bullets, despite being non-lethal per her Standard Tactics and equipment means they'll pack more punch against David well he has to rely on getting past her predicting all his shots since Chisato is a genius at recognizing trajectories of projectiles and shot timings, to the point where aiming specifically at her would be a detriment.
Dead links.
Anywho, this is where David's projectile launch arm comes in handy. Not only is this monster able to oneshot a Maelstrom Brute (should be around his level), but a 20% boost to this thing isn't anything to scoff at. Also, has Chisato dodged explosions before? If not, she's going to get hit with a big explosion, and even if David doesn't make it out unscathed, he's still going to be in better shape than her if he ever so chooses to shoot it point-blank.

Analytical Prediction is smth David just has no true answer towards in conjunction with her reaction speed, just by looking at the movement of his clothing and/or muscles, she'll be able to predict his next move and where he's moving to insure her shot lands where it needs to despite his amp.

imo she's just has the skill, Ap, analytical prediction, and reactions needed to win the shoot-out far more often than David could
I don't think AnPr alone is going to help with someone who spams Sandy and be a statue in his pov. Barring Smasher himself, others who have the same Sandy as him even struggle to tag him. She has to see him to even deduct something. Not to mention some of his guns won't translate to what she has learnt (mainly the Zhuo).

he's not unskilled with firearms just no where near what Chisato could do with her basic M1911 given her real training in the field and dealing with people just as skilled as she is. As a child, she single-handedly stopped a massive terrorist event and when she grew up, she fought against an entire group of armed mercenaries and defeated them non-lethally, its to the point shes regarded as a genius in combat alongside how intelligent she is at recognizing trajectories of projectiles and shot timings, to the point where aiming specifically at her would be a detriment hard countering the fact they home in since well thats aiming AT her
This is impressive, but she's got to pull her weight if she's going to fight against someone who can go toe-to-toe with borged out gangoons and corpo soldiers on a regular basis. The translation isn't really 1-1 here since most mercs suit up with the necessary combat cyberware to gain any available advantage. David in this key is reasonably chromed to where he has leg chrome to jump high to avoid a maelstrom hammer attack (said maelstrom had a sandy to try and counter his sandy however).

as for the Kang Tao L-69 Zhuo, they may home but that doesn't insure they'll actually hit her, she has a bulletproof/impact-proof backpack which comes with a bulletproof airbag, both of which she could use to defend herself against the Kang Tao L-69 Zhuo after predicting the trajectories and shot timings
Will address the backpack in a bit, here's how the average smart weapon works.

Tbf almost no one in the series are close in skill to Chisato except for the terrorist she fought


No one in Lycoris can land a hit on her either
Should still be hard to hit her right?
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Average Gangoon feat
bulletproof/impact-proof backpack
Would say that your average chromed choom have plating like these, yet the guns and bullets most mercs sport are enough to pierce through them like cheese. This is made worse by the fact that the projectile launch system completely invalidates this from ever being useful.
 
didn't realize how substantial the speed amp was alongside increasing his perception speed to the point of statuing her tbh.

atp ion see anything Chisato can do. she has prior knowledge on Sandevistan and the speed but that doesn't exactly prevent it from being used and him proceeding to just empty bullets into her from every possible angle.
 
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I only know Chisato here (still waiting for S2, I need the yuri so bad bro)

But David's speed amp is WAYYYY to fast for her ANPR to matter here
 
Dunno how his cyberskeleton just downgraded his Class M lol
Because he loses his gorilla arms and we don't see him do something like grapple with Smasher to have the cyberskeleton scale directly to him. The calculation for gravity manipulation should put it at Class M, but it isn't for some reason.
 
Because he loses his gorilla arms and we don't see him do something like grapple with Smasher to have the cyberskeleton scale directly to him. The calculation for gravity manipulation should put it at Class M, but it isn't for some reason.
Could we at least get a possibly rating seeing as full-borg (or almost in David's case) is a really big deal, and that exoskeleton was supposed to be a replacement for Adam Smasher to upgrade or something.
Or maybe something like:
"Unknown, Likely Class 50, Possibly Class M, higher (or whatever rating) with gravity manip"
 
Could we at least get a possibly rating seeing as full-borg (or almost in David's case) is a really big deal, and that exoskeleton was supposed to be a replacement for Adam Smasher to upgrade or something.
Or maybe something like:
"Unknown, Likely Class 50, Possibly Class M, higher (or whatever rating) with gravity manip"
Make a CRT.
 
Yeah, that Sandy is brutal. The reason Chisato's APR works with bullets is because they sorta travel in straight lines so she doesn't need to react to them but the finger pulling the trigger. Maybe if David could only use the Sandy to bull charge, then Chisato could do something. And sure, I'd give it to Chisato if there was no Sandy. But the moment David activates it, he wins.

Put me for David.
 
Will chuck Agent 47 at the lovebirds, trust

EDIT: my verdict is David turns her into swiss cheese (borderline or likely stomp due to massive speed diff)
Here

Time to dissect this.

David also does have the tendency to go CQC (albeit shown only once), but he will spam the shit out of his Sandy.


So here's the thing, David's considered not as skilled in the cyberpunk universe in comparison to other legends due to his overreliance on cyberware (namely his iconic Sandy), but keep in mind that in a world like cyberpunk, you're dead meat if you aren't able to hold your own even for a day as a merc. Pre-Timeskip David was lucky af, but in this key, he's seasoned enough to take on a good number of maelstrom gangoons, who mind you are borged out with a good amount of combat cyberware. Pairing what he has with the speed of the sandy, he's able to catch Arasaka soldiers offguard, which have their own can of cyberware to pull up, beyond skill. As I've said, David's skill in his own series might not be the likes of Morgan Blackhand, but against Chisato, he's giving her a run for her money.


Dead links.
Anywho, this is where David's projectile launch arm comes in handy. Not only is this monster able to oneshot a Maelstrom Brute (should be around his level), but a 20% boost to this thing isn't anything to scoff at. Also, has Chisato dodged explosions before? If not, she's going to get hit with a big explosion, and even if David doesn't make it out unscathed, he's still going to be in better shape than her if he ever so chooses to shoot it point-blank.


I don't think AnPr alone is going to help with someone who spams Sandy and be a statue in his pov. Barring Smasher himself, others who have the same Sandy as him even struggle to tag him. She has to see him to even deduct something. Not to mention some of his guns won't translate to what she has learnt (mainly the Zhuo).


This is impressive, but she's got to pull her weight if she's going to fight against someone who can go toe-to-toe with borged out gangoons and corpo soldiers on a regular basis. The translation isn't really 1-1 here since most mercs suit up with the necessary combat cyberware to gain any available advantage. David in this key is reasonably chromed to where he has leg chrome to jump high to avoid a maelstrom hammer attack (said maelstrom had a sandy to try and counter his sandy however).


Will address the backpack in a bit, here's how the average smart weapon works.



Average Gangoon feat

Would say that your average chromed choom have plating like these, yet the guns and bullets most mercs sport are enough to pierce through them like cheese. This is made worse by the fact that the projectile launch system completely invalidates this from ever being useful.
Anyways, does David have any counter against Chisato's Small Building AP and Dura
 
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