Darkseid vs Homura Akemi

[GalaxianAegis]

Two dark entities batlle it out to see who'll own the multiverse.

2-A versions for both

Darkseid

Homura Akemi

Rules: Speed Equalized

 

[SomebodyData]

That speed tho

 

[GalaxianAegis]

Oh, should I equalize the speed to make it fair?

 

[SomebodyData]

Ye

 

[GalaxianAegis]

Aight, it's updated

 

[Nsmch]

If Homura defeated Spectre this should be a stomp.

 

[GalaxianAegis]

Pretty sure you can't powerscale across matches in that manner.

Use both of their profiles and arsenals to make a decision.

 

[Kaltias]

If this version of Darkseid only has the abilities of the last key, Homura wins easily and possibly stomp.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I don't even see how he can kill her.

Destruction, even erasure of the physical body won't kill her.

She doesn't have a soul to target.

She mindhaxed a multiversal+ nigh-omniscient goddess, so I don't know if something like the anti-life equation, even buffed to 2-A, could stop her.

 

[Kaltias]

Mindhaxing Madoka doesn't give her resistance to mindhax.

Also pretty sure that Darkseid's has Multiversal+ AoE, so defeating her should be possible

 

[Chaospaladin15]

I think homura wins this for several reasons 1) The intelligence gap

2) The overconfidence of darkseid ( will he really use his full potential against a 14 year old girl ? )

3) Homura's conceptual manipulation ( i know i have said it again but this ability is op in her tier )

4) power drain + memory manipulation combo ( it worked on madoka so is will work just fine in darkseid...)

i will not vote just yet so to hear more arguments

 

[Akumura]

Homura wins because Darkseid has absolutely 0 resist to mindhax which means power drain + memory manip combo instawins.

For that matter, could 7-B Homura have a chance to win? Her mindhax was shown to be potent enough to affect a Mind Manip-resistant 2-A, and if Darkseid's overconfidence kicks in as a 2-A vs 7-B...

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Would power drain work on a conceptual embodiment? And darkseid has his own mind control.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

If the presence purposefully keeps darkseid alive I don't think Akemi can kill him.

 

[Kaltias]

Pretty sure that immortality via the presence is restricted (incapacitation still works anyway).

Aso, it works pretty well o conceptual embodiments

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Dang. Changing vote to homura for reasons above.

 

[GalaxianAegis]

Here are votes so far, let me know if I missed you.

Darkseid: 0

Homura: 4 (ZacharyGrossman373, Akumura, Kaltias, Monarch Lachiel)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Chaospaladin15]

Yea i think i will vote now ..since noone seems to present legit counter arguments about darkseid's superiority or something..

i will vote Homura for the reasons i have already listed above!

note#1 : i would like to see matches that are a real chalenge for Homura not borderline stomps like that. one..

 

[GalaxianAegis]

@Chaospaladin15 I'm actually testing the waters to see where she might be a good match. Only way you can find out is if you test it. Thought Darkseid's abilities would make this closer though rip.

Darkseid: 0

Homura: 5 (ZacharyGrossman373, Akumura, Kaltias, Monarch Lachiel, Chaospaladin15)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Peter1129]

Also voting Homura for reasons above. Is she ever going to lose. She has like 6 wins 0 losses if this gets added.

Edit: Almost forgot she's also winning against Kagutsuchi which would make it 7 wins 0 losses.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Lucemon.

 

[Peter1129]

Wasn't it declared a stomp? I'm talking about actual fair losses. Not stomp loss.

 

[Kaltias]

As Fate said, Homura has the luck to be strong enough to beat a fair amount of 2-A, but weak enough to be stomped by the heavy hitters so she wins decisively but loses being stomped lol

 

[GalaxianAegis]

Darkseid: 0

Homura: 6 (ZacharyGrossman373, Akumura, Kaltias, Monarch Lachiel, Chaospaladin15, Peter1129)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I love how Homura exists in that perfect sweet spot for getting lots of wins and no losses

 

[Schnee_One]

^Meanwhile, Lavos

Homura FRA

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Homura FRA.

• noticed Gar called out Lavos

...haven't I suffered enough? ovo

 

[Schnee_One]

Did I do something wrong?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh, not in the slightest. I'm just screwing around.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Akemi unanimously won.

 

[Newendigo]

What does means acausality only in a 3-D scale? Does that means 4-D causality affects her?

I know, it sounds obvious but I'm just curious.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

It's something that's being done away with because it's too complicated for the average joe, but basically, a higher dimensional being works on higher dimensional time, and thus causality. For example, if someone destroyed the entire space-time continuum of the universe, there is no "before the universe was destroyed" by the normal understanding of time, because that universe never existed in the first place.

However, a being working by higher dimensional time would be able to perceive the "before" and the "after" of "when" the universe was destroyed. Hence they work on a higher dimension of time.

So a being that is acausal on a 3-D scale is not acausal on a 4-D scale. They are beyond the flow of time and cause and effect on their level of reality, but not a higher level.

 

[Kaltias]

HomuraGargoyle did nothing wrong

Lavos doesn't exist in any kind of sweet spot, it's just OP lol. If you meant Lavos vs Homura, the flea probably stomps after all those upgrades

Also I think that this can be added, we reached 7 votes

 

[Newendigo]

Calm down Kal, we go first with the grace period...

 

[Kaltias]

II mean, we have added unanimous fights right away since i joined. But ok

 

[Chaospaladin15]

I love how Homura exists in that perfect sweet spot for getting lots of wins and no losses

well who am i kidding? i love that too

 

[Schnee_One]

HomuraGargoyle did nothing wrong

Lavos doesn't exist in any kind of sweet spot, it's just OP lol. If you meant Lavos vs Homura, the flea probably stomps after all those upgrades

Also I think that this can be added, we reached 7 votes

He kinda does...Since him vs Madoka wasn't removed.

It's no bigger of a stomp then Ragyo vs Beast

 

[Kaltias]

That's because we are waiting for Fate's last revision to decide if it's a stomp or not, actually. Also no, Madoka vs the TD is much more one-sided than Ragyo vs the Beast

 

[Schnee_One]

I was kinda being sarcastic in the second comment but whateva

 

[GalaxianAegis]

Final votes are:

Darkseid: 0

Homura: 7 (ZacharyGrossman373, Akumura, Kaltias, Monarch Lachiel, Chaospaladin15, Peter1129, The real cal howard)

Inconclusive: 0

I'll see about getting it added.