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Darkseid vs Dormammu

Dormammu has more abilities but how big is the difference in AP?
 
Dormammu has merged several Universes, the number is unspecified. Darkseid was destroying 52 Universes while weak and dying, at first glance, I'd give the AP advantage to Darkseid.
 
I give it to Darkseid, Dormammu only has reality warping in his own dimension, Omega Beams should kill Dormammu and Darkseid generally leads with them, he also seems to have a higher AP. Dormammu's powers also vastly weaken when he's outside the Dark Dimension.
 
I'll give it to Dorm here.

Low Godly tanks pretty much anything Darkseid does except for Omega Beams which are dodgeable anyway, and he has multiple ways to kill Darkseid.

Dorm via versatility.
 
Pretty sure that's a outlier

I mean, absorbing stuff much higher then your tier isn't an outlier.

Look at Homu
 
Ah well, from what I've seen they aren't, or are at least hard enough to Dodge to give Darseid the will over the bargain bin
 
Yobobojojo said:
Are Omega Beams even dodgable tho?
They are, if you're fast enough, very hard though. But they've consistently shown to be much faster than Superman and capable of even keeping up with the Flash, the Omega Beams are hard to dodge because they home in on the target until they hit them.
 
Hard to tell, Dormammu really outmatches Darkseid in a few areas but i think Darkseid could outsmart Dormammu also the omega argue.

Not sure though but would say Darkseid (maybe because i like him more who knows..).
 
@Raffney

You need to specify what they outmatch each other in so I can count your vote, and why you're leaning towards Darkseid (liking him more isn't a valid reason)

@Guhhhhhh1

For what reasons?
 
Dormammus reality warping is limited to his own realm. His warping abilities however usable outside his realm such as matter-dream-fire-energy and soul manipulation, while incredible powerful, can't do much against high tier Darkseid.

His absorbtion ability against energy can defend him maybe a while but i'm not sure that it is able to absorb the omega effect over time going by the fact that Darkseid can drain all sorts of godly beeings with it and has durability negation plus void manipulation.

Also it's kinda Darkseids thing to outsmart other super intelligent opponents, such a Brainiac for example. Don't see Dormammu doing that often. In fact he is mostly relying on his raw power and arrogance and is the one mostly to be outsmarted in the end (by Strange and others).

Darkseids space time manipulation can weaken Dormammu even further. Dormammu can counteract it with time travel but at cost of his stamina.

For Dormammu to unleash his full power effectivly and counteract any of Darkseids moves he had to drag him somehow in his own dimension. Even when an Avatar of Darkseid does that it would not kill him. Only when Dormammu is able to either extract Darkseid from the entirety of the multiverse or Dormammu dragging the entire dc multiverse into it would make him able to match any of Darkseids high tier powers.
 
Darkseid takes it. First of all he's at least 2C, likely 2A. Dormammu is just normal 2C. I'm not convinced dodging Omega Beams would be so easy for Dormammu, and Darkseid could always choose to use AoE anyway if the beams don't work. If he uses Omega Sanction it's over. Darkseid also has the edge in intelligence, he's played chess with a Monitor and created eons-spanning schemes. Dormammu honestly isn't all that intelligent.
 
Just an FYI for this thread, the fact that Darkseid is "likely 2-A" doesn't matter for this fight. For this he isn't 2-A and there is no way that he could get close to 2-A without being 2-A. That said, he can destroy 52 universes while mortally wounded, so he still has the AP advantage.
 
Darkseid FRA, esp. by being harder to kill, has larger AP and is smarter.
 
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