Darkrai vs NiGHTS (speed equalized) who wins?

[The_Pink_God]

Drakrai starts with Dark Pulse and NiGHTS starts with Energy Manipulation

Darkrai

Darkrai (Japanese: ダークライ, Daakurai) is a Dark-type Mythical Pokémon. Cresselia is Darkrai's counterpart and rival, and together they form the Lunar Duo. Tier: 2-B, likely 2-A Name: Darkrai Origin: Pokémon Gender: Genderless Age: Unknown Classification: Mythical Pokémon, Nightmare Pokémon Powers...

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NiGHTS

NiGHTS is a first level Nightmaren from the Night Dimension and the main protagonist of the NiGHTS franchise. Created by Wizeman to serve under him, NiGHTS rose up against their master and, teaming up with multiple children who stumbled upon their realm, defeats Wizeman and raises the children's...

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Darkrai: 7
NiGHTS: 0
Inconclusive: 0

 

[00potato]

Wow this is thematic as all hell.

She might resist sleep going off of the profile so this might work.

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

Could someone from an dream fall asleep?

 

[The_Pink_God]

In question of pure power i think Darkrai is with the upper hand since he did fight 2 poke gods while NiGHTS only fight 1 god

 

[The_Pink_God]

But overall ill vote on NiGHTS since she has things such as immortality 1 and 8 and also resist mind control
And evem if Darkrai puts her to sleep it wouldnt matter since she is a "dream" character and has dream manipulation

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

You can't vote on your own threads unless it's Fun and Games

 

[The_Pink_God]

Oh my bad
I didnt know that
Fixed

 

[00potato]

You can still argue though, your point about type 8 still stands.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Yeah i still think NiGHTS takes this because of her hax and immortality
The only way of Darkrai really killing her is if he would be able to destroy the concept of darknes
Since NiGHTS will always exist as long as there Darkness in the hearts of man

 

[Everything12]

Type 8 shouldn't matter as Darkrai will always go for Sleep Manip before anything else. NiGHTS being a dream being shouldn't matter, as Darkrai Passively causes Nightmares it has complete control over in any being who sleeps in its presence causing damage to them, this affected Palkia who has a Mind Hax resistance of Countess Minds × 2, which is above anything NiGHTS' Verse has.

 

[The_Pink_God]

But what about the immortality?
Darkrai cant really kill NiGHTS cause he cant destroy the concept of darkness

 

[Everything12]

Like I said, being unable to kill them doesn't matter, as incapping NiGHTS by trapping it in permanent nightmare Darkrai has complete control over is still a win condition.

 

[00potato]

How do you stick a dream in another dream?

 

[The_Pink_God]

Yeah good question
Is that even possible and also NiGHTS has resistance to Pocket Reality Manipulation is thats help

 

[Everything12]

If they're a Dream then Darkrai's far superior and Passive Countless×2 Dream Manipulation which turns dreams into permeant nightmares it has complete control over should grant it the win, as from what I can tell NiGHTS (Verse) highest potency is only Countless×1.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Hmmm
Makes sense

 

[00potato]

I don’t see how that wins.
All that does is make the area around them a nightmare.
I don’t think DarkDark over here has outright controlled his dreams much anyway, it was more just causing nightmares.

 

[Everything12]

Nope, Darkrai has repeatedly shown the ability to control what appears in its Nightmare's, such as when in the Darkrai Movie it controlled Ash's Nightmare to warn it of Palkia or in Mystery Dungeon it tried to trick Palkia by appearing as someone else and making the players look more evil then they were.

 

[The_Pink_God]

And again NiGHTS has resistance to Pocket Reality Manipulation

 

[Everything12]

Why would that matter? Darkrai isn't controlling a Pocket Reality, it's controlling their mind.

 

[00potato]

Mystery Dungeon and the anime are entirely different canons.
Which one are you using?

 

[00potato]

Why would that matter? Darkrai isn't controlling a Pocket Reality, it's controlling their mind.

Also to nights a dream would be a pocket reality.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Can't Darkrai just use Dream Eater to eat the Dream? GG lol.

No but seriously, Darkrai should have this in the bag.

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

How does Nights powers work? Nights may be able to get a gun or something

 

[The_Pink_God]

A gun against a pokemon that survived god like hits
Yeah really helpfull

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

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[Gilad_Hyperstar]

(Ps: can someone taught me how to put images here? Idk how to)

You do it this way:

You press on the picture symbol in the comment, which is located near the smiles button

Then, you post the link of the picture. You get the link by pressing on the picture so your tab opens on the picture. Here is the link for NiGHTS's picture: https://alchetron.com/cdn/nights-character-70ccbb21-1ba6-478d-9579-a5eb8b41434-resize-750.png

Then you add the link there and get the picture like this:

 

[The_Pink_God]

It worked

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Now it would also be great if you link the profiles so it will be easier to decide who to vote for

 

[The_Pink_God]

Ok so the winner is Darkrai
Soo can someone close this thread

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Pretty sure no one actually voted, just argued.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Yeah i diont know why i make the vote things
But the discussion favors Darkrai soo yeah

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Just because a Character is being Favoured doesn't mean you immediately cease all arguments and close the thread.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Unless it's a complete stomp that is.

 

[The_Pink_God]

I didnt mean that type of favored, i mean that the discussion has shown that Darkrai overall is superior and would win in this battle

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

You still need 7 votes for a character in order for them to win

 

[The_Pink_God]

Hmm i see
So who yall vote?

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

Scary Pokemon FRA

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Darkrai. His sleep hax is thought based and it seems NiGHTS can't really resist that

 

[00potato]

Nope, Darkrai has repeatedly shown the ability to control what appears in its Nightmare's, such as when in the Darkrai Movie it controlled Ash's Nightmare to warn it of Palkia or in Mystery Dungeon it tried to trick Palkia by appearing as someone else and making the players look more evil then they were.

Also neither of those feats seem to be super effective in combat. I don’t see how it will be a problem.

The sleep is confusing in this case. Can a being like nights even sleep?