Dark Samus vs False Madoka

[Kaltias]

Speed is equal, 5-B Dark Samus (second key) is used.

False Madoka:

Dark Samus:

Inconclusive:

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Madoka one-shots, 'cause Dark Samus scales to a baseline 5-B, while False Madoka... well...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dosnt 2nd key Dark Samus have Low-Godly regen?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Oh, okay then...

Madoka paradoxes instead

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Already check it,yeah DS have low godly regen there.....

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How does her paradoxing work? Im pretty sure Low-Godly can save her from that...

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

How exactly does Low-Godly save you from paradoxing? Isn't it synonymous with Existence Erasure, which negates said level of regen regardless of the mechanic?

And there are a lot of other options Madoka has to put Samus down

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Madoka....or the wraith version in this case, paradoxing via arrows that can travels through time.

FM can also BFR.

Or pulled out a Novel Kars.

 

[Schnee_One]

Can't Samus just blast her with an ABZ Cannon as well?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

What does it do?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

FM can just timestop to dodge or something.

 

[Schnee_One]

It freezes something to nigh-Absolute Zero.

@Homu and what if it doesn't?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Nah, FM has shown to stop time when needed. Her mindset is similar to most PM characters in general: Do whatever it takes to win.

 

[Schnee_One]

How does it know it needs to Time Stop instead of Dodging or shielding itself?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I mean....

False Sayaka did it to dodge Kyoko attack. False Madoka has the similar mindset too.

 

[Kaltias]

>Low-Godly negating a paradox

 

[Kaltias]

Bump

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Bump

 

[Kaltias]

Bump

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Voting Not-Madoka for paradox and time stop

 

[DodoNova2]

False Madoka FR of Homu

 

[Kaltias]

I wonder if using Samus herself would be more fair tbh

 

[Schnee_One]

Isn't she less haxed then Dark?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Hold up, people are kind of downplaying Dark Samus for various reasons. One, Dark Samus is wayyyyyyyyy above baseline Planet level, she should be at least Captain Ginyu's level in terms of AP; this doesn't include speed or hax though and albeit speed is vanity in these threads due to equalization. Dark Samus > Phazon Suit Samus > Metroid Prime base form > Gravity Suit Samus > Varia Suit Samus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power Bombs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tallon Metroid who are 73 Zetatons.

Also, Samus has both the ability AND Resistance to all of the following, Soul Manipulation, Biology manipulation, Technology manipulation, Mind Manipulation, and Reality Warping. DS also has Low-Godly Regenerationn and Spacial Intangibility. Those are also going to help her a lot. Won't vote yet, because I busy IRL, plus I'm waiting for SomebodyData to come here to back me up.

 

[Kaltias]

False Madoka is 97 degrees of "immensely superior" compared to baseline people. I can write the full scaling if you want but trust me, she isn't being outmuscled.

What's the scale of the soul resistance? And why it isn't on the profile?

 

[Schnee_One]

^Isn't she technically superior to someone who is 97 degrees of superior to baseline?

 

[Scarletmoon56]

DS doesn't have ways from being paradoxed to death or coming back from being BFR'd into the world of the non-existent.

I vote Not-Madoka

 

[Kaltias]

No. False Madoka >>>> hypothetical timeline 100 KG >>>>>>> Timeline 100 Madoka = 95 degrees of "far superior to", at the end of this you find timeline 5 Madoka who is = timeline 4 KG whose barrier is bigger than Earth

 

[SomebodyData]

Just wanna point put Paradox Arrows would only get False Madoka corrupted, not voting here.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Shouldn't False Madoka be 5-A if that's true?

 

[Kaltias]

We decided to go with the "super duper high end of whatever tier she is in due to the highest feat" method for Madoka and people scaling from her, given that sheer scaling would place them outside of tier 5 otherwise, and we obviously can't make them tier 4 just by virtue of superiority compared to 5-B people

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Welp,voting Creepy-Madoka FRA.

 

[Theglassman12]

You guys do know that Phazon would **** up False Madoka immensely right? Her trying to paradox DS is going to corrupt her, as well as the fact that Phazon itself is like a bunch of high level hax into one.

 

[Kaltias]

I'm still not getting the "Trying to paradox corrupt her" tbh.

False Madoka herself doesn't time travel, her arrows do

 

[Theglassman12]

Because chozo beings that tried to use their clairvoyant powers on Phazon got mindscrewed by doing that. The same would happen with False Madoka

 

[Kaltias]

But she is using soul hax, not clairvoyance

Can DS do that from a different point in time?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Oh yeah, I know what Glassman's trying to say. Medoka can't really time paradox Dark Samus without going to Planet Phaaze; the homeworld of all Phazon and a planet entirely composed of Phazon. Even a tiny particle of Phazon is like immense level of mind, soul, body, and tech hacking, imagine what an entire planet made of that shizz can do.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Kal considering MP originated from Phaaze, a planet made up entirely of Phazon, she can.

 

[Kaltias]

But False Madoka herself remains in the 21th century.

The arrows simply time travels.

And killing DS something like 6 hours before the match start is enough to paradox.

False Madoka is also made to resist corruption, can copy Dark Samus' powers, BFR her to nonexistence etc.

And does DS have resistance to soul hax or not? You guys said that she does, but it's not on the profile

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It's being discussed ATM, but entities made of Phazon should also have resistance to their own Phazon hax, which includes resistance to Soul manip, Bio manip, Tech manip, and mind manip.