Dante vs Mephiles the Dark

[GyroNutz]

It's in one of the cutscenes, though I couldn't tell you the context. For the last 12 years I've put a mental block on that game.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Im Right here my vote for Mephiles FRA.

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[GyroNutz]

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[NOT_OK]

Dante FRA

 

[DMB_1]

Dante FRA

I debunked the only vote for Dante.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Well, not really, I mean, I still stick to my vote and I haven't seen in any video (that i know of) mephiles regenerating from a lone molecule or scattered atoms.

The only thing that mephiles has for the win is the higher AP and time, the clones and the dura doesn't meant much since yamato is a thing with beowulf and doppelgänger.

The big problem is the regen but I still think it probably qualify as mid-high and i still doubt it, but since I'm not knowledgeable in Sonic 2006 I'm not gonna bother with the CRT. As always a scan or a video proving his regen would be perfect.

 

[Blueblur24]

I still don't think that this version of dante should have Yamoto as he gave it to Nero at the end of the game.

 

[Schnee_One]

Who says this is Dante at the end of the game and not his prime when he has it

 

[Blueblur24]

I thought we always used end game versions unless specified especially since here Dante doesn't really go through any jumps in stats or anything. And I would say dante is at his prime throughout the entire game.

But my reasoning for saying he probably shouldn't have yamoto is because he only used it for a short period of time and didn't keep it.

 

[Schnee_One]

Not sure where you got that from

 

[Blueblur24]

It wouldn't make much sense to assume that this wasn't end game dante as he is mostly the same throughout.

 

[GyroNutz]

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[Schnee_One]

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[GyroNutz]

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[ShadowWarrior1999]

Dante is around 172 petatons, Mephiles is above 511 plus has high Regenerationn. Mephiles takes this with little to no difficulty.

 

[Schnee_One]

If you're going to state how Mephilis is above 511 Pettatons you should state the same for Dante as well.

172 Pettatons is from a fodder in his verse after all

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

And again, Dante can incap with Beowulf.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

If you're going to state how Mephilis is above 511 Pettatons you should state the same for Dante as well.

172 Pettatons is from a fodder in his verse after all

Mephiles one shot Sonic (511 petatons) with an energy beam.

 

[Schnee_One]

Mephiles one shot Sonic (511 petatons) with an energy beam.

I know

That doesn't have anything to do with my post tho

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Also, timeframeless surface-bust is actually 366 petatons. Sonic's page links to an OPM blog, where the timeframe was given.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wait what?!

Did that get downgraded?!

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Pretty sure that's what Kepekley23 stated on the latest Bayonetta CRT, where she got downgraded to High 6-A.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Mephiles one shot Sonic (511 petatons) with an energy beam.

I know

That doesn't have anything to do with my post tho

Eh, I was going by the calcs and saw Mephiles has a significant AP advantage.

 

[Schnee_One]

Well shit

This may reset the votes since the AP isn't that much anymore

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

And again, Dante can incap with Beowulf.

Mephiles can also create multiple clones of himself to overwhelm Dante.

 

[GyroNutz]

Also, timeframeless surface-bust is actually 366 petatons. Sonic's page links to an OPM blog, where the timeframe was given.

CSRC's surface bust calc was timeframeless too iirc

 

[Schnee_One]

CSRC's surface bust calc was timeframeless too iirc

That's what he means

Also retract my vote if you don't mind, gotta think a bit more on this now with the AP thing

 

[GyroNutz]

Sure

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I think I found the issue. Kep used a "near-total fatalities" method, while the guy behind an OPM blog used a "total fatalities" one.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I think I found the issue. Kep used a "near-total fatalities" method, while the guy behind an OPM blog used a "total fatalities" one.

The calc is on Ifrit's page who can scorch the entire surfaces of planets. It's still listed as 511.71 petatons.

 

[Schnee_One]

Then edit it

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Yes, and it's the exact same blog that is on Sonic's page.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

You guys are forgetting Gilgamesh's Transmutation...again

Also Dreadnaught amps Dante's durability, DMC4 Dante already have this skill

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Well, not really, I mean, I still stick to my vote and I haven't seen in any video (that i know of) mephiles regenerating from a lone molecule or scattered atoms.

The only thing that mephiles has for the win is the higher AP and time, the clones and the dura doesn't meant much since yamato is a thing with beowulf and doppelgänger.

The big problem is the regen but I still think it probably qualify as mid-high and i still doubt it, but since I'm not knowledgeable in Sonic 2006 I'm not gonna bother with the CRT. As always a scan or a video proving his regen would be perfect.

Now he doesn't even have the AP advantage and we haven't seen proof of that regen. I still go with Dante.

 

[Blueblur24]

Actually there was an old thread questioning the legitimacy of sonic's high 6-A tiering. It was never truly decided what his base tier was people just stopped discussing it. I could link it if you all want me to.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Please, do it.