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Well here it is. I told myself I was going to do this and I'm sticking to it regardless of how bad it turns out. I'd like to everyone to read through this with open minds and not instantly assume that I'm wanking or because it's a cartoon the verse can't get this strong. Lastly I'd like to thank my brother for actually bringing this to my attention because I was likely not going to actually think about doing this, anyway, here we go.
Importent Not: I will only be aiming for a possible upgrade meaning "Possibly" will go in front of the rating. I repeat, this will not be a solid Upgrade.
Tier 2 Stuff
Ok so first I'll be discussing why tier 2 Danny Phantom stuff isn't ridiculous. For one it already exists. We've already had a thread a short while ago about the Ghost Writer and his tier 2 with his Keyboard was accepted. Now their is also The Reality Gauntlet aka the discount Infinity Gauntlet. What does this half to do with anything you ask, well that's simple. The Reality Gauntlet should actually be Low 2-C to possibly 2-C and I say this because it's repeatedly stated that the gauntlet at full power allows you to control all reality. Now it hasn't shown it's full capabilities how this is a ghostly artifact but the Guys in White state that they believe that it has enough power to wipe out ghosts forever. The Ghost Zone is infinite in size and the Guys in White don't possess a ghost portal of their own meaning the gauntlet would half to have Low Multiversal range to be able to get all the ghosts in the Ghost Zone from the Human World. The gauntlet has also been shown to effect space and time so with that knowledge, repeated statements of it being stated to be capable of controlling all reality the gauntlet should be Low 2-C or 2-C given it can likely effect the Ghost Zone as well as the human world given it's originally from the Ghost Zone so it should count in the "all reality" statements.
Lastly the Guys in White also reveal that they have a missile that can wipe out the entire Ghost Zone which is the plot point of the episode Livin Large. If they had a Low 2-C missile why would that have wasted their time with a gauntlet. Unless said gauntlet could actually control all reality. It also should be noted that the Guys in White are actually trying to destroy the Ghost Zone completely, which would mean even they believe the gauntlet has the power to destroy an entire universe.
So I know you guys are like "Okay Griffin, you got a 2-C Keyboard, a Low 2-C to possibly 2-C gauntlet, and a Low 2-C missile. How does this scale to any character?." Well it's because of two more objects that go hand in hand and the person that possesses them.
Ring of Rage and the Crown of Fire
These two objects together are the strongest ghost artifacts period. This is backed the the creator of the show Butch Hartman who stated that when wearing both objects they give you Omnipotence, Skulker who stated when wearing both Pariah could do anything, and Vlad Plasmius stated they give you power unimaginable. Not only this but it should be noted that the Reality Gauntlet which I stated above should be Low 2-C to 2-C is actually a ghost artifact and originated from the Ghost Zone. However Pariah Dark decided to go for a crown and ring that as far as we are aware give him a boost but nothing else, over a gauntlet that can control all reality?. Yeah it's highly likely the ring and crown hold more power than the gaunlet.
Also Pariah ruled over the Ghost Zone and was so powerful that no ghost could defeat him. Every single ghost lived in fear of him which also includes the Ghost Writer who has a 2-C keyboard!, and it's not like Pariah has any hax to counter him, he's just stronger than him. However the Ghost Writer could have just haxed him from his home but nope. Even without the Crown and the Ring Pariah made all the ghosts in the Ghost Zone flee in fear upon his return from his coffin. Again, I know you're saying "but Griffin, it's just another object, doesn't scale to anyone". This is not true, it's specifically stated that only Pariah I'd strong enough to control the energy contained inside the two objects. Meaning he can control and his body can handle the power from these two objects.
Inconsistencies
Obviously Danny Phantom is no stranger to mess ups. However nothing goes against the Crown and Ring being the strongest weapons in the verse. No one has even stood up to Pariah with the exception of the Ancient Ghosts who are stated to be powerful and they only could knock him out and it took six of them. They couldn't destroy him even after removing the two objects and their only option was to seal him. They never were seen again so it's not like they have any feats that go against them being on his level. The only other person to stand up against him was Danny Phantom using the Ecto Skeleton suit. Now said suit was not only stated to be able to beat back any ghost, it was amped when Danny transformed.
The only problem here is the statement of the suit being capable of increase the users power 100fold. However we already had a thread about this and it was agreed not to use the multiplyer because it would make the far faster then they are now but make Pariah weaker that Vortex and even Princess Dorathea which is completely ridiculous considering even she ran away when Pariah showed up and even Vortex can't make all the ghosts flee in terror. So that stated multiplyer can't be used as it makes all scaling completely wack. The second problem is similar to the first, Pariah's army holding back Danny. This also can't be used because it messes up scaling. When his army appeared, Normal Danny Phantom was obliterating them with no difficulty and even the other ghost like Skulker, Ember and a few more could fight them no problem. Even then it should be noted that Danny was destroying them in hordes while in the Ecto Skeleton but the suit was draining him like a battery so they used that as an excuse even though he goes on to fight Pariah an put up some form of challenge, he couldn't visually injury the Ghost King but he could stagger him. All in all the the "Inconsistencies" can easily be ignored due to multiple feats against them. I know some people are going to say "How in the world did Jack and Maddie build a possible Low 2-C to 2-C battle suit" well it isn't ridiculous considering the Guys in White who aren't as smart as them built a missile that could destroy the Ghost Zone which would be Low 2-C.
Scaling
Ok so if this is accepted the scaling would go.
The Reality Gauntlet
Tier: Unknown, Possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: Unknown, Possibly Universe level+ (The Guys in White wanted to use the gaunlet to wipe out all Ghosts forever by destroying the entire Ghost Zone even though they already possessed a missile capable of destroying the entire Ghost Zone, the gaunlet is repeatedly stated to be powerful enough to control all reality)
Pariah Dark
Tier: At least Low 6-B, possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Small Country level (Even without the ring and crown he is stronger than Vortex), Possibly Universe level+ (Stated to be the only ghost capable of controlling the energy within the Crown of Fire and the Ring if Rage which are the strongest ghost artifacts and should at least be comparable to The Reality Gauntlet which is repeatedly stated to have the power to control all reality and was believed to have the power the destroy the entire Ghost Zone)
Ancient Ghosts
Tier: At least Low 6-B, Possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Small Country level, Possibly Universe level+ (6 of them fought and defeated Pariah Dark while he was wearing the Ringof Rage and the Crown of Fire)
Danny Phantom (Ecto Skeleton)
Tier: At least Low 6-B, Possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Small Country level, Possibly Universe level+ (Fought Pariah Dark and put up somewhat of a challenge and was able to hold him inside the Sarcophagus of Forever Sleep but was still weaker than the Ghost King)
Note: Jazz Fento in the Ecto-Skeleton will be ranked Unknown considering Danny Amped the suit by transforming it and we can't use her fight against Danny to downplay because the two weren't trying to kill each other because if she was she would have vaporized him no difficulty.
Well that's everything, thoughts?.
Importent Not: I will only be aiming for a possible upgrade meaning "Possibly" will go in front of the rating. I repeat, this will not be a solid Upgrade.
Tier 2 Stuff
Ok so first I'll be discussing why tier 2 Danny Phantom stuff isn't ridiculous. For one it already exists. We've already had a thread a short while ago about the Ghost Writer and his tier 2 with his Keyboard was accepted. Now their is also The Reality Gauntlet aka the discount Infinity Gauntlet. What does this half to do with anything you ask, well that's simple. The Reality Gauntlet should actually be Low 2-C to possibly 2-C and I say this because it's repeatedly stated that the gauntlet at full power allows you to control all reality. Now it hasn't shown it's full capabilities how this is a ghostly artifact but the Guys in White state that they believe that it has enough power to wipe out ghosts forever. The Ghost Zone is infinite in size and the Guys in White don't possess a ghost portal of their own meaning the gauntlet would half to have Low Multiversal range to be able to get all the ghosts in the Ghost Zone from the Human World. The gauntlet has also been shown to effect space and time so with that knowledge, repeated statements of it being stated to be capable of controlling all reality the gauntlet should be Low 2-C or 2-C given it can likely effect the Ghost Zone as well as the human world given it's originally from the Ghost Zone so it should count in the "all reality" statements.
Lastly the Guys in White also reveal that they have a missile that can wipe out the entire Ghost Zone which is the plot point of the episode Livin Large. If they had a Low 2-C missile why would that have wasted their time with a gauntlet. Unless said gauntlet could actually control all reality. It also should be noted that the Guys in White are actually trying to destroy the Ghost Zone completely, which would mean even they believe the gauntlet has the power to destroy an entire universe.
So I know you guys are like "Okay Griffin, you got a 2-C Keyboard, a Low 2-C to possibly 2-C gauntlet, and a Low 2-C missile. How does this scale to any character?." Well it's because of two more objects that go hand in hand and the person that possesses them.
Ring of Rage and the Crown of Fire
These two objects together are the strongest ghost artifacts period. This is backed the the creator of the show Butch Hartman who stated that when wearing both objects they give you Omnipotence, Skulker who stated when wearing both Pariah could do anything, and Vlad Plasmius stated they give you power unimaginable. Not only this but it should be noted that the Reality Gauntlet which I stated above should be Low 2-C to 2-C is actually a ghost artifact and originated from the Ghost Zone. However Pariah Dark decided to go for a crown and ring that as far as we are aware give him a boost but nothing else, over a gauntlet that can control all reality?. Yeah it's highly likely the ring and crown hold more power than the gaunlet.
Also Pariah ruled over the Ghost Zone and was so powerful that no ghost could defeat him. Every single ghost lived in fear of him which also includes the Ghost Writer who has a 2-C keyboard!, and it's not like Pariah has any hax to counter him, he's just stronger than him. However the Ghost Writer could have just haxed him from his home but nope. Even without the Crown and the Ring Pariah made all the ghosts in the Ghost Zone flee in fear upon his return from his coffin. Again, I know you're saying "but Griffin, it's just another object, doesn't scale to anyone". This is not true, it's specifically stated that only Pariah I'd strong enough to control the energy contained inside the two objects. Meaning he can control and his body can handle the power from these two objects.
Inconsistencies
Obviously Danny Phantom is no stranger to mess ups. However nothing goes against the Crown and Ring being the strongest weapons in the verse. No one has even stood up to Pariah with the exception of the Ancient Ghosts who are stated to be powerful and they only could knock him out and it took six of them. They couldn't destroy him even after removing the two objects and their only option was to seal him. They never were seen again so it's not like they have any feats that go against them being on his level. The only other person to stand up against him was Danny Phantom using the Ecto Skeleton suit. Now said suit was not only stated to be able to beat back any ghost, it was amped when Danny transformed.
The only problem here is the statement of the suit being capable of increase the users power 100fold. However we already had a thread about this and it was agreed not to use the multiplyer because it would make the far faster then they are now but make Pariah weaker that Vortex and even Princess Dorathea which is completely ridiculous considering even she ran away when Pariah showed up and even Vortex can't make all the ghosts flee in terror. So that stated multiplyer can't be used as it makes all scaling completely wack. The second problem is similar to the first, Pariah's army holding back Danny. This also can't be used because it messes up scaling. When his army appeared, Normal Danny Phantom was obliterating them with no difficulty and even the other ghost like Skulker, Ember and a few more could fight them no problem. Even then it should be noted that Danny was destroying them in hordes while in the Ecto Skeleton but the suit was draining him like a battery so they used that as an excuse even though he goes on to fight Pariah an put up some form of challenge, he couldn't visually injury the Ghost King but he could stagger him. All in all the the "Inconsistencies" can easily be ignored due to multiple feats against them. I know some people are going to say "How in the world did Jack and Maddie build a possible Low 2-C to 2-C battle suit" well it isn't ridiculous considering the Guys in White who aren't as smart as them built a missile that could destroy the Ghost Zone which would be Low 2-C.
Scaling
Ok so if this is accepted the scaling would go.
The Reality Gauntlet
Tier: Unknown, Possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: Unknown, Possibly Universe level+ (The Guys in White wanted to use the gaunlet to wipe out all Ghosts forever by destroying the entire Ghost Zone even though they already possessed a missile capable of destroying the entire Ghost Zone, the gaunlet is repeatedly stated to be powerful enough to control all reality)
Pariah Dark
Tier: At least Low 6-B, possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Small Country level (Even without the ring and crown he is stronger than Vortex), Possibly Universe level+ (Stated to be the only ghost capable of controlling the energy within the Crown of Fire and the Ring if Rage which are the strongest ghost artifacts and should at least be comparable to The Reality Gauntlet which is repeatedly stated to have the power to control all reality and was believed to have the power the destroy the entire Ghost Zone)
Ancient Ghosts
Tier: At least Low 6-B, Possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Small Country level, Possibly Universe level+ (6 of them fought and defeated Pariah Dark while he was wearing the Ringof Rage and the Crown of Fire)
Danny Phantom (Ecto Skeleton)
Tier: At least Low 6-B, Possibly Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Small Country level, Possibly Universe level+ (Fought Pariah Dark and put up somewhat of a challenge and was able to hold him inside the Sarcophagus of Forever Sleep but was still weaker than the Ghost King)
Note: Jazz Fento in the Ecto-Skeleton will be ranked Unknown considering Danny Amped the suit by transforming it and we can't use her fight against Danny to downplay because the two weren't trying to kill each other because if she was she would have vaporized him no difficulty.
Well that's everything, thoughts?.