Danganronpa Potential Downgrade?

[Queen_Dasania]

I’m not entirely sure if this would be a downgrade. So this is both to ask, and just start a discussion here in general

In the prologue of Trigger Happy Havoc, Monokuma mentions this:

“It can withstand an impact force of up to ten tons.” This is in reference to the e-handbooks

would this place a limit on how powerful the characters are?

Keep in mind that this would downgrade pretty much the whole verse. Given that 1, he’s confident that this limit would make it so that nobody can break them (aside from the weak point of heat), and this includes Sakura. And 2, Mondo, who should be somewhat relative to Sakura, opted to use the heat weak point to break the tablet.

It’s really just dependent on what exactly this means. Obviously if this meant ten tons of tnt, that would limit the verse to large building level at most, but I don’t think that’s what it meant.

It directly says “impact force.” So I’m assuming it must mean ten metric tons. Is there any way we could convert this to joules?

 

[StrymULTRA]

This is just a random anti-feat like Goku unable to lift 40 tons without Super Saiyan when the feats are much more than that and vastly outnumber them. Nothing more and nothing else.

Plus 10 tons here means force, meaning it's a LS thing here mostly.

 

[Queen_Dasania]

This is just a random anti-feat like Goku unable to lift 40 tons without Super Saiyan when the feats are much more than that and vastly outnumber them. Nothing more and nothing else.

Plus 10 tons here means force, meaning it's a LS thing here mostly.

That makes sense. I was mainly just curious if that would do anything. And the “impact force” makes me think it isn’t lifting strength. But looking it, this would be like wall level. So it’s a wild anti feat that would make a lot of other things not make sense if we apply

 

[Queen_Dasania]

I think this feat almost shows that Kodaka originally planned for Danganronpa’s cap to be much lower, but then had fun with crazy feats later

 

[Just a Random Butler]

It could be possible if there were enough anti-feats in the series. Though, at this point, it's just that the story wasn't as crazy yet.

 

[Queen_Dasania]

It could be possible if there were enough anti-feats in the series. Though, at this point, it's just that the story wasn't as crazy yet.

That makes sense! Was mainly just curious if it was something worth noting

 

[Sparkive]

It could be possible if there were enough anti-feats in the series. Though, at this point, it's just that the story wasn't as crazy yet.

Believe me when I say, there are anti-feats.
I don't know if there are enough to downgrade this part of the verse, but there are some. In the past I collected several, but I'd have to look for the document (although yes, Danganronpa 1 clearly wasn't that crazy in terms of power levels).

Oowada's brother and Celestia literally died after being run over, and in Danganronpa 3 Souda survives being hit by a truck (although badly injured and in the morning, so probably slower).

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Believe me when I say, there are anti-feats.
I don't know if there are enough to downgrade this part of the verse, but there are some. In the past I collected several, but I'd have to look for the document (although yes, Danganronpa 1 clearly wasn't that crazy in terms of power levels).

Oowada's brother and Celestia literally died after being run over, and in Danganronpa 3 Souda survives being hit by a truck (although badly injured and in the morning, so probably slower).

The anti feats are kinda crazy. As you said, Daiya and Celeste die from being hit by a car. Kazuichi gets injured by being hit by a truck. Sakura fails to punch down a wall (although it is implied to be heavily reinforced.) Mechamaru dies from a fall. Pretty sure Kyoko pretty directly says that she can’t break down a wooden door, or through an ice cube. And obviously there’s the fact that bullets are treated as dangerous, and even draw blood from Izuru

That being said, I think these are all just examples of danganronpa being inconsistent

 

[Sparkive]

The anti feats are kinda crazy. As you said, Daiya and Celeste die from being hit by a car. Kazuichi gets injured by being hit by a truck. Sakura fails to punch down a wall (although it is implied to be heavily reinforced.) Mechamaru dies from a fall. Pretty sure Kyoko pretty directly says that she can’t break down a wooden door, or through an ice cube. And obviously there’s the fact that bullets are treated as dangerous, and even draw blood from Izuru

That being said, I think these are all just examples of danganronpa being inconsistent

Sakura is top tier, so you can't really combine her anti-feats with the rest, same with Mechamaru

The case of the weapons is strange; they are clearly deadly to all tiers, but Mechamaru is the only one who has withstood a bazooka wound because he was a robot.

Trying to speak based on memory, other anti-feats:

• When they discover Sakura's body, when they basically say it doesn't matter if they damage the door, but Naegi has to resort to breaking the window to try to get whatever was blocking it out from the inside
• or Hajime hitting the helicopter that killed Hanamura and all he got out of it was a sore hand
• or Komaru ending up unconscious from the shockwave of one explosion twice in Despair Girl (just the shockwave) or the fact that she ended up trapped before Despair Girl, telling us that her routine included banging on the door asking to be let out, which doesn't make sense if we say it's 9-A or 8-C
• the explosion created by Nagito in chapter 5 damages Hajime even though he wasn't directly hit, and that explosion couldn't even damage everything in its blast radius; if you look at the aftermath, there are things that survived or were simply turned upside down, the same with Souda in the same feat
• Asahina's brother dies in an explosion, clearly not 9-A
• In IF, Mukuro, after escaping everyone, blocks the door to delay them
• etc

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Sakura is top tier, so you can't really combine her anti-feats with the rest, same with Mechamaru

The case of the weapons is strange; they are clearly deadly to all tiers, but Mechamaru is the only one who has withstood a bazooka wound because he was a robot.

Trying to speak based on memory, other anti-feats:

• When they discover Sakura's body, when they basically say it doesn't matter if they damage the door, but Naegi has to resort to breaking the window to try to get whatever was blocking it out from the inside
• or Hajime hitting the helicopter that killed Hanamura and all he got out of it was a sore hand
• or Komaru ending up unconscious from the shockwave of one explosion twice in Despair Girl (just the shockwave) or the fact that she ended up trapped before Despair Girl, telling us that her routine included banging on the door asking to be let out, which doesn't make sense if we say it's 9-A or 8-C
• the explosion created by Nagito in chapter 5 damages Hajime even though he wasn't directly hit, and that explosion couldn't even damage everything in its blast radius; if you look at the aftermath, there are things that survived or were simply turned upside down, the same with Souda in the same feat
• Asahina's brother dies in an explosion, clearly not 9-A
• In IF, Mukuro, after escaping everyone, blocks the door to delay them
• etc

I was just listing a bunch in general

But yeah, you are right. I do think it would be a debatable case to lower the average humans from Small Building level. But that would have to be a whole discussion

Lifting strength has always felt weird to me too. It’s hard to imagine Chihiro having above average human lifting. There was the anti feat of Kyoko being handcuffed to the wooden bed in Kyoko: Kirigiri, and being unable to lift it to get her hand free