Dabi vs Emilia (MHA vs Re:zero)

[Nico-v11]

Hello! This is quite the interesting fight here. Massive flames vs absolute zero. Let’s keep this speed equalized (unless it can be made not a stomp without it, doubt it).

Both are in their strongest keys. Dabi is in his strongest key but is starting at base. Both are in-character. Dabi is creating chaos and Emilia shows up.

Dabi: 0

Emilia: 0

Inconclusive: 0

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Something something Flow Method equals stomp.

 

[Nico-v11]

Something something Flow Method equals stomp.

Flow Method?

 

[AThe1412]

Flow Method?

Re:Zero: Warriors and The Flow Method

vsbattles.fandom.com

Very lengthy explanation.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Re:Zero: Warriors and The Flow Method

vsbattles.fandom.com

Very lengthy explanation.

Emilia don't scale to 80% of the feats in the blog trought.


Ok, this fight is kinda stupid, Dabi have the AP advantage, so he can't be harmed by Emilia normal attacks, and he can one-shot.

On the other hand, for Emilia to win, she would need to freeze him over so he can't do anything. Her absolute Zero would be a Instant Win, but is rare for her to pull of so early. Trought, she is way more skilled than him, so avoiding his attacks would not be a problem, until she uses AZ.

 

[Nico-v11]

Emilia don't scale to 80% of the feats in the blog trought.


Ok, this fight is kinda stupid, Dabi have the AP advantage, so he can't be harmed by Emilia normal attacks, and he can one-shot.

On the other hand, for Emilia to win, she would need to freeze him over so he can't do anything. Her absolute Zero would be an Instant Win, but is rare for her to pull of so early. Trought, she is way more skilled than him, so avoiding his attacks would not be a problem, until she uses AZ.

So who do you think would win?

 

[Bruhtelho]

Emilia don't scale to 80% of the feats in the blog trought.


Ok, this fight is kinda stupid, Dabi have the AP advantage, so he can't be harmed by Emilia normal attacks, and he can one-shot.

On the other hand, for Emilia to win, she would need to freeze him over so he can't do anything. Her absolute Zero would be a Instant Win, but is rare for her to pull of so early. Trought, she is way more skilled than him, so avoiding his attacks would not be a problem, until she uses AZ.

Dabi doesn't hold back at all in this key, he has no reason too anymore so he opens with massive AOE flames that cover Hundreds of Meters and if Dabi sees her using ice attacks at him, he can simply activate Phosphor and cancel any ice attack out just like Shoto's, and once Phosphor is out then Dabi just becomes a walking ball of fire thats Kilometers wide. her best win-con is pulling out Absolute Zero but thats not in character and Dabi is gonna just continue to grow in power the more fire attacks her throws out and her resistance to heat is pointless since Dabi's flames are hot enough to harm/burn characters with heat resistance already such as Endeavor

 

[Nico-v11]

Bump

 

[Fezzih_007]

Dabi doesn't hold back at all in this key, he has no reason too anymore so he opens with massive AOE flames that cover Hundreds of Meters and if Dabi sees her using ice attacks at him, he can simply activate Phosphor and cancel any ice attack out just like Shoto's, and once Phosphor is out then Dabi just becomes a walking ball of fire thats Kilometers wide. her best win-con is pulling out Absolute Zero but thats not in character and Dabi is gonna just continue to grow in power the more fire attacks her throws out and her resistance to heat is pointless since Dabi's flames are hot enough to harm/burn characters with heat resistance already such as Endeavor

Well, Emilia probally not gonna survive long enough to pull her wincon then against AoE attacks.

 

[Nico-v11]

Bump

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

idk what fezzih was cooking but Emilia literally STARTS with freezing her opponents in the latest episode of ReZero
I dont see why she wouldnt just insta freeze her opponent if he becomes too challenging, especially if his attacks get so hot they could actually cause her to burn up like she did when volcanica used his breath attack that would have instantly burnt her to death

A white vacuum instantly sweeped conquest over the world, accompanied with such strength that even the impossible to halt flow of time would be stopped, impossible of being described as meagrely as the atmosphere being frozen.
Even the breath of the dragon who was supposed to have been met by inevitable『Death』, was no exception.

The blue light clashing from the front and an absolute null, their collision yielded a vacuum in the world.

“ーーーー”

That moment, the two maximal potencies, with not the slightest delay, opposed and extinguished each other.
A truly astounding extinguishment accompanied with no sound or impact, and once the time that had supposedly been halted began to flow again, Emilia readied an ice lance and flew towards the front.

Also i need a value to how hot Dabi's flames are because i looked it up and:
Blue fire can reach temperatures upwards of 2,552 to 2,912 degrees Fahrenheit (1,400 to 1,600 degrees Celsius)
whereas Sirius's flames who Emilia fought against:
Violet fires can burn upwards of 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit (1,650 degrees Celsius)

So Emilia actually has SUPERIOR Resistance to fire than what Dabi can output and she can also extinguish anything he does instantly with her ice attacks

 

[Phoenks]

Emilia was able to survive against Volcanica for an extended period of time and then use Absolute Zero.

I think she has this in the bag with her superior skill tbh. She was capable of dodging Volcanica's stuff, which is like exponentially crazier than Dabi's things considering that dragon can manipulate space and concepts with its attacks—on top of them just vaporizing everything they touch.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Emilia was able to survive against Volcanica for an extended period of time and then use Absolute Zero.

I think she has this in the bag with her superior skill tbh. She was capable of dodging Volcanica's stuff, which is like exponentially crazier than Dabi's things considering that dragon can manipulate space and concepts with its attacks—on top of them just vaporizing everything they touch.

Range of the the dragon's flames, are they omnidirectional? Dabi just sets everything within his range on fire and it'll keep spreading. There's no dodging to be done neither can you fight outside the reach of his flames unless you can outrange him.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Also i need a value to how hot Dabi's flames are because i looked it up and:
Blue fire can reach temperatures upwards of 2,552 to 2,912 degrees Fahrenheit (1,400 to 1,600 degrees Celsius)
whereas Sirius's flames who Emilia fought against:
Violet fires can burn upwards of 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit (1,650 degrees Celsius)

So Emilia actually has SUPERIOR Resistance to fire than what Dabi can output and she can also extinguish anything he does instantly with her ice attacks

Dabi flames are comparable to Endeavors, who can burn characters like Bakugo, Deku, and Todoroki each of whom have resistance to heat that varies from
1. Bakugo withstanding his own explosions that reach 5,000 °C
2. Deku is comparable to All Might who can punch beings made of super heated plasma (10,000 degrees) and natural cloud to ground lighting WELL in mid-air (15,000° C to 60,000 °C)
Dabi's flames are constantly stated to be hotter and more powerful than Endeavor and Todoroki's both of whom have heat resistance and he could burn them without any problem, his flames only get hotter to the point that not even Burnin or Todoroki were able to approach him anymore (a more knowledgeable member could correct me tho but thats what I gathered from multiple threads)

his flames are gonna melt any of the ice thrown at him almost instantly including Emilia, her resistance is not allat compared to him

 

[Fezzih_007]

idk what fezzih was cooking but Emilia literally STARTS with freezing her opponents

I din't say she don't start freezing her opponent, I said she don't start with Absolute Zero, with is what she would need to win.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Emilia was able to survive against Volcanica for an extended period of time and then use Absolute Zero.

I did think account for the Volcanica fight, but since he is kinda in a hibernate state, and have only 10% of his original power, we can't fully compare to Dabi, who is smarter.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Dabi flames are comparable to Endeavors, who can burn characters like Bakugo, Deku, and Todoroki each of whom have resistance to heat that varies from
1. Bakugo withstanding his own explosions that reach 5,000 °C

source for that?

2. Deku is comparable to All Might who can punch beings made of super heated plasma (10,000 degrees)

you do know there is a thing called heat transferal speed? humans can touch lava and be completely fine because of it

and natural cloud to ground lighting WELL in mid-air (15,000° C to 60,000 °C)

once again, humans can survive lightning simply because they dont get heat up fast enough even if the actual lightning is enough to vaporize them

Dabi's flames are constantly stated to be hotter and more powerful than Endeavor and Todoroki's both of whom have heat resistance and he could burn them without any problem, his flames only get hotter to the point that not even Burnin or Todoroki were able to approach him anymore (a more knowledgeable member could correct me tho but thats what I gathered from multiple threads)

his flames are gonna melt any of the ice thrown at him almost instantly including Emilia, her resistance is not allat compared to him

Simply comparable without further proof
also dont his flames only grew hotter because of his anger? that wouldnt be the case here

 

[Robo432343]

bro who is that bunny girl in MHA

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

bro who is that bunny girl in MHA

mirko

 

[Bruhtelho]

source for that?

Heat (Trained his body to take the immense temperature of his nitroglycerin explosions)

you do know there is a thing called heat transferal speed? humans can touch lava and be completely fine because of it

All Might's case isn't just a quick one and done thing, its done several times on multiple beings of superheated plasma without any scratch (Can directly hit)

once again, humans can survive lightning simply because they dont get heat up fast enough even if the actual lightning is enough to vaporize them

and you ignored the part where I said "in mid air", he tanked the heat and force of the lightning bolt for a pro-longed period of time in mid air which is accepted on the profile, not on the ground which is different circumstances

Simply comparable without further proof
also dont his flames only grew hotter because of his anger? that wouldnt be the case here

"without proof" Endeavor literally stated that Dabi's flames were hotter and stronger than his at a young age and its on the profile, no its not simply from "getting angry" Dabi can increase the heat of his flames freely its something all Todoroki's can do with flashfire fist being hotter than just regular blueflame or hellflame

 

[Phoenks]

Btw Emilia's in-character kill-move is creating ice crystals that blow you apart from the inside-out using your blood as fuel. How can Dabi deal with that?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Btw Emilia's kill-move is creating ice crystals that blow you apart from the inside-out using your blood as fuel. How can Dabi deal with that?

Emilia don't usually kill people or go for the kill, and she also never try to use Ice Flower.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Dabi is creating chaos and Emilia shows up.

Well actually, If Dabi is destroying and killing people, she might be inclined to use Ice Flower, but still not that likely.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Btw Emilia's in-character kill-move is creating ice crystals that blow you apart from the inside-out using your blood as fuel. How can Dabi deal with that?

Emilia doesn't really go for her kill moves right out the gate tho esp with something like Ice Flower well Dabi does and his willpower is so high that he can casually keep fighting well being burnt to nothing but a crisp and blowing his own arm off not being fazed by it in the slightest alongside him not even being able to feel pain at all. his body had no trouble staying together for an incredible long period of time well practically breaking apart from the build up of heat within him just so he can get his true revenge against Endeavor.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Emilia don't scale to 80% of the feats in the blog trought.


Ok, this fight is kinda stupid, Dabi have the AP advantage, so he can't be harmed by Emilia normal attacks, and he can one-shot.

On the other hand, for Emilia to win, she would need to freeze him over so he can't do anything. Her absolute Zero would be a Instant Win, but is rare for her to pull of so early. Trought, she is way more skilled than him, so avoiding his attacks would not be a problem, until she uses AZ.

I guess it's about whoever makes the first move to kill taking the win. Knowing Emilia doesn't go for the kill from the start, Dabi has a higher chance of killing her before she uses AZ.

 

[Emerald]

once again, humans can survive lightning simply because they dont get heat up fast enough even if the actual lightning is enough to vaporize them

This happens cause lightning occurs so fast that the heat doesnt transfer properly. Nine’s lightning hit them while they were mid air and they were being shocked for seconds, also funnily enough Nine’s lightning can like pulverize rock and takes down buildings when it hits the ground, it loses almost no energy when it hits the ground

 

[TheRustyOne]

Either Dabi stomps with overwhelming AP or Emilia stomps with her hax/abilities.

I don't see this being a fair match nor do I have any interesting in finding out who'd one shot/stomp the other.

 

[Nico-v11]

Either Dabi stomps with overwhelming AP or Emilia stomps with her hax/abilities.

I don't see this being a fair match nor do I have any interesting in finding out who'd one shot/stomp the other.

Ironically many fights are like that in My Hero Academia. Overhaul vs Shigaraki are essentially boiled down to whoever touches the other first. Yet, they are still even and fair to debate on.

There are arguments for both Dabi and Emilia winning. They both are capable of beating the other. So I wouldn’t say one stomps the other, if it can’t be determined then it would just be inconclusive.

 

[Fezzih_007]

There are arguments for both Dabi and Emilia winning. They both are capable of beating the other.

Emilia wincons are out character for her to use in a fight, so Dabi kinda wins way more with AoE.

 

[Nico-v11]

Emilia wincons are out character for her to use in a fight, so Dabi kinda wins way more with AoE.

You say out of character but she goes for the kill in every fight she’s been in season 1 and 2. It’s something she would have to get to eventually but it’s not out of the picture.

Dabi also essentially is never at his most powerful unless Endeavor or Shoto are there. He will NOT be going all out from the beginning and has been defeated numerous times before doing his best.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Dabi also essentially is never at his most powerful unless Endeavor or Shoto are there. He will NOT be going all out from the beginning and has been defeated numerous times before doing his best.

Dabi throws out massive attacks no matter who you are, he did so against Geten multiple times without any care cause he'd rather just get it done and over with and not waste more time on something he doesn't have too esp against someone like Emillia who looks very similar to his mother AND uses Ice would only really fuel that even more.

 

[Fezzih_007]

You say out of character but she goes for the kill in every fight she’s been in season 1 and 2

I din't say is out of character for her to go for the kill. I said is OOC for her to use Absolute Zero or Ice Flower in a battle without reason. Which is kinda the only wincons she have.

Trought, even if you like bloodlust her, she probally wins.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Ironically many fights are like that in My Hero Academia. Overhaul vs Shigaraki are essentially boiled down to whoever touches the other first. Yet, they are still even and fair to debate on.

Chisaki vs Tomura is a stomp for Chisaki if we use Pre-Awakening Tomura, as he has no ranged attacks and Chisaki's attacks are Low 7-B versus Tomura's 8-A Durability. Awakened Tomura stomps with Decay spread as Chisaki has no counter to it. That is not a fair fight at all. Post-Surgery obviously stomps all versions of Chisaki.

Either Dabi kills Emilia with his first attack or she kills him with her first attack.

This is a stomp because one of them will kill the other the very second the match starts. If Dabi and Emilia could dodge or avoid each other's attacks then it would be fair since it's a matter of who's more skilled at landing their attack. IDK Emilia that well yet, but I don't see how Dabi can avoid her dura negating abilities.

I don't know if she can avoid his AOE or not, but I don't care. If she can't than Dabi stomps, if she can than she stomps. (Although her attack could reach first?)

I don't see how this isn't a stomp.