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CW Flash Revision

Harming someone is Striking Strength, not Lifting Strength
there are both Striking Strength and Lifting Strength on the stage.

the part I was talking about . The part where Despero pushes the car towards the flash and counteracts the lifting force with the lightning created by the flash.
 
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To me, something like Class G with Speed Force aura seems better.

As for striking strength, he already scales.
removed some ends as of some input from @Andytrenom , are we still wanting the Iris feat calculated even if we have better feats?
Honestly, I doubt her tidal wave would be higher than Barry's whirlpool, so I'd say no.
 
To me, something like Class G with Speed Force aura seems better.

As for striking strength, he already scales.

Honestly, I doubt her tidal wave would be higher than Barry's whirlpool, so I'd say no.
Okay then are we just gonna work out the AP stuff now since we have calcs to back then now
 
Sort of.

New ratings (pending some calculations, obviously).

Attack Potency: Wall level physically, Large Building level+ with the Speed Force (Faster than Rival, who can generate F3 tornadoes). At least City Block level with amp (Severely injured Zoom, even after he added Barry's speed to his own) | Wall level physically. At least Large Building level+ with the Speed Force (Superior to his early Season 2 levels of speed. Consistently defeated the Rival) to at least City Block level (Appears to have regained his previous levels of speed by the Dominator Invasion. Increased his speed enormously throughout the Season) | Wall level physically, Large Town level+ with the Speed Force (Destroyed DeVoe's satellite after he increased its mass a thousand-fold), Higher at full power (Curbstomed Cicada). Continent level+ with Environmental Destruction (Comparable to Eobard Thawne) | Wall level physically, Small City level with the Speed Force (Increased his power significantly since his fight with the Reverse Flash. Fought and defeated Despero, who was stated to have power on par with Kryptonians. Contained the Flame of Py'tar, which would have destroyed Central City). Continent level+ with Environmental Destruction | Wall level physically, Large Town level+ with the Speed Force (Comparable, though somewhat inferior, to the Reverse Flash). Continent level+ with Environmental Destruction (After disconnecting himself from the Speed Force, his wake placed immense pressure on the Earth's mantle, causing earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunami and melting the polar ice caps)

Speed: High Hypersonic, Massively Hypersonic+ after his amp | Relativistic, Higher after his amp (After increasing his speed naturally, he eventually outclassed Zoom even with Barry's speed) | Relativistic (Somewhat faster than his Season 2 self) to at least Relativistic (Outclassed Supergirl during the Dominator Invasion. Could keep up with Wally and Savitar by the end of the season; Julian Albert previously suggested that Barry would need to surpass his current speed by the same level that he eclipsed his early season 1 self) | FTL (Blitzed Wally. Moved so fast that lightning appeared to stand still. Lapped the world several times in quick succession), Higher at full power (Easily blitzed the Reverse Flash), far higher with Electricity Absorption (Managed to run across an entire corridor before DeVoe's portal closed, despite previously being unable to even approach it from a much shorter distance) | At least FTL (Significantly faster than before) | FTL

Durability:
Wall level physically, Large Building level+ with Speed Force Aura (Can withstand his own lightning, which is generated from the energy he produces while running). At least City Block level with amp | Wall level physically. At least Large Building level+ to at least City Block level with the Speed Force | Wall level physically, Large Town level+ with the Speed Force, Higher at full power | Wall level physically, Small City level with the Speed Force | Wall level physically, Large Town level+ with the Speed Force (Withstood a lightning blast from the Reverse Flash)

Key: Season 1 | Late Season 1/Season 2 | Season 3 | Season 4-7 | Season 8 | Armageddon Timeline
Suppose I'll bump this and we can work from here
 
I was just about to do that myself, thanks.

Basically, everything is the same AP-wise (speed's another thing), but DeVoe's feat is now Town level. Plus, we have the whirlpool at Large Building level.
I suppose that's really about it for the changes in the AP I'm glad I found that again to see what we had before
On another note, should we translate speed to AP?
For like KE?
 
Just curious, what AP and Speed Rating is Thawne gonna be?
Haven't worked that out yet plus we still have to come to a overall conclusion on the speed but we haven't had staff here to give opinions on it for the final verdict
 
An F3 tornado is 9.5403 tons of TNT.

9.5403 x 5 (Barry + Zoom) = 47.7015 tons of TNT.

47.7015 x 5 (S4) = 238.5075 tons of TNT.

So, yeah, I guess it's not worth it.
 
An F3 tornado is 9.5403 tons of TNT.

9.5403 x 5 (Barry + Zoom) = 47.7015 tons of TNT.

47.7015 x 5 (S4) = 238.5075 tons of TNT.

So, yeah, I guess it's not worth it.
Ah okay I see then yeah nah not worth it at all
 
Is it the meteor calc or more?
and we're treating it like a meteor calc I suppose since it was going to crash like one due to its mass increasing 1000x making it crash and impact earth from space in 3 minutes but I also had to calc the weight of the thing prior so its partially me doing that as well
 
Suppose I'll bump this and we can work from here
I believe we're still goinf by this but Large Town level will be city level and I'd have to find the other calcs to seenif any ratings aside from that will be changed
 
I'll make a sandbox, I guess.
Set it up and I could help also I forgot to mention that as of Crisis on Infinite Earths Superman Flash and Supergirl will downscale Donnerverse Superman and will be Mountain+ from then on


This was decided in another crt
 
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