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Connie fights a psychopathic kid (0-0-0)

Attack Potency: Wall level (Able to block and deflect the Training Robot's attacks which were capable of destroying cars, managed to injure a Gem Monster who tore down a wall and ruined most of a school over time. Easily cut a car in half), Mountain level with Swords (Able to one shot a Holo-Pearl and matched a bloodlusted Pearl), can bypass conventional durability against Gems with her Sword and Rose's Sword (Able to one-shot low level Forced Fusion Gems. Dispatched Corrupted-Fused Gems, who were strong enough to almost overpower Steven)

Durability: Wall level, Island level with her Sword and Rose's Sword (Able to block hits from Topaz, Holo-Pearl, a bloodlusted Pearl, and a bloodlusted Jasper. Rose Quartz was able to use it for millennia without it being damaged by the force of her attacks and was able to clash against Hessonite with it)


....Ah yeah. That is a problem. If Connie's blocking & attacking with her sword & Speed is Equal.... Well, I think Connie AP stomps unless there's evidence that Brandon's heat vision is too hot for the sword. (& supposedly, it has Heat Resistance feats.)
 
Brightburn needs some proper calcs, then we'd have more solid values.

That said, he doesn't ENTIRELY lack a win condition; Even if Connie were more durable, he'd only have to hit her with his heat vision, as opposed to her blocking it with her sword.
Of course, having a win condition doesn't mean it's a RELIABLE win condition. Still, AFAIK, an achievable win condition, even if it's one you can't achieve reliably, is basis for a match to not be a stomp, right? Is it in the realm of reasonable possibility he could win that way?
(Though, not sure how soon he uses his Heat Vision.)
 
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Imaginym said:
Brightburn needs some proper calcs, then we'd have more solid values.

That said, he doesn't ENTIRELY lack a win condition; Even if Connie were more durable, he'd only have to hit her with his heat vision, as opposed to her blocking it with his sword.
Of course, having a win condition doesn't mean it's a RELIABLE win condition. Still, AFAIK, an achievable win condition, even if it's one you can't achieve reliably, is basis for a match to not be a stomp, right? Is it in the realm of reasonable possibility he could win that way?
(Though, not sure how soon he uses his Heat Vision.)
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ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
I haven't seen Brightburn, but I assume his heat vision is portrayed the same as Superman's, at which point it's almost impossible the Connie won't be able to block it with her sword, allowing her to get in close and win.
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Are these votes?
 
Imaginym said:
This match feels so wrong.
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Steven Universe: The Feat Connie Scales To

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3,423,483.48983 joules

Powers and Abilities:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight (As shown here), Stealth Mastery (Was capable of hiding from his uncle Noah), Heat Vision (Can blast heat out of his eyes), Technology Manipulation (Can turn off and manipulate technology; causing a car to stop and be unable to start again, light bulbs to flicker and explode, radios and phones to be unable to call, etc), Can hover above the ground for long periods of time. Telekinesis (Ripped open a metal door in half), Limited Fear Manipulation and Animal Manipulation (Caused chickens to go crazy at his presence), Resistance to Diseases (Has never been sick), and possibly Regeneration (Low), Dream Manipulation (Appears in the nightmare of his dad)

(Tore a metal freezer door open, violently smashed through several walls in his house, Slams Sheriff Deever so hard that he exploded into paste), likely higher (Destroyed an airplane, in the ending credits he destroys a building complex casually and creates a large forest fire. This is likely not his peak strength)
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Brightburn Speed Feat

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(Easily lifted a truck)
(Used this to rip a metal door in half)
(Tanked getting shot in the head with a shotgun, a lawn mower blade broke against his arm)
Human level to his ship's metal

If you read all of that, you might've noticed something!

NONE OF BRANDON'S FEATS HAVE CALCS!
(Except for the Speed Calculation, which is useless here, lol.)

[Screams in frustration]


In theory, this should mean he's baseline.
Baseline Wall Level is 15,000 Joules. Which would make Connie, scaling above a 3,423,483.48983 joules feat, roughly 228.23x stronger.

....But Brandon is mentioned as being able to splatter humans, leaving nothing of them but blood.
Slams Sheriff Deever so hard that he exploded into paste/Killed Sheriff Deever by hitting him while flying at super speeds, splattering his body everywhere. (Dunno which of those links is better, & dunno if it works here because it was done by the Speed of his ramming.)
Killed an female police officer by slamming her up and down through the house, leaving nothing of her left only blood. (Dunno if this is a different feat.)

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References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...
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By necessity, if Brandon reduced a person's body to nothing but paste, he probably didn't just break, but DESTROYED all their bones as well. So what does that feat yield?
Low End: 1.77078.486850515432e5 Joules, Wall level

Mid End: 3.56902376598e5 Joules, Wall level

High End: 5.83398115592783e5 Joules, Wall level

For those who don't speak Scientific Notation, that's 177,078.486 (Low), 356,902.377 (Mid), or 583,398.116 (High) joules.
Connie's rating is way above that, being about 5.86x higher.
But the calc is for Fragmentation of Bones. I haven't checked the clip, but I assume Brandon at least violently fragmented them, in addition to destroying flesh, so he's likely above the high end.
Dunno what meterial the freezer door was made of (Some kind of metal obviously.), but I don't know if Connie has any resistance or durability against heat. I also don't know how likely Brandon is to use this In-Character, but there's a good chance he could just burn through her flesh with heat vision, & when he uses it on humans, he apparently aims for the head. (Dunno the circumstances of him heat visioning his dad, though; He may have had an easy shot.)

There's also this:
Lifting Strength: At least Class 5 (Easily lifted a truck), possibly higher with telekinesis (Used this to rip a metal door in half)

'course, whether or not he could Telekinesis Connie is.... Questionable, when considering her rating:

Lifting Strength: Class 50 (Able to physically contend with various Gems throughout the series without being overwhelmed strength-wise, should scale to Seasons 4-5 Steven based on various feats when they fought in tandem)

Dunno how much higher than his physical LS Brandon's TK is, & Connie's LS is only via scaling, but Baseline Class 50 LS begins at 25,000 kg while Class 5 ranges from 1,000 to 5,000 kg, so Connie's scaling puts her LS roughly 5x above Brandon's LS, but it could be a lot closer. (A truck could definitely weigh more than 5,000 kg, for example.)

Brandon also has this:
Destroyed a large building in the credits sequence. (This video was removed, but another link on his profile to 1 second later in the video says building complex, so presumably, it was a building or building complex.)
& this: Killed 268 people by destroying a passenger jet.

Reference for Common Feats says, for destroying a plane:
Total Fragmentation = 1.6246502e10 Joules, or 3.88300717 Tons = Large Building level

We see chunks of the plane still in-tact, & the profile claims a body count of 268 (Presumably there was in-universe body count, maybe from a news report or such?), so it could be even higher. 16,246,502,000 Joules. Compared to Connie scaling to 3,423,483.48983 joules, this would be roughly 4,745.6x stronger than her.


Brandon also has Flight, & Stealth Mastery (For hiding from his uncle Noah in circumstances that I don't know.).

Intelligence?

Intelligence: At least Gifted (He is incredibly knowledgeable about multiple subjects, being above anyone in his school, even though he is just a kid)
Weaknesses: Is weak to the metal of the spaceship he came in. Easily angered and has no remorse or feelings towards humans, viewing himself as superior

Brandon is the more mobile, I dunno when or why he uses Stealth, & he has a superior complex.

Intelligence: High (Due to being personally trained by Pearl, Connie is a highly-skilled fighter and swordsman, capable of holding her own against high-level Holo-Pearls, trained Gem soldiers such as Topaz, and even a possessed Pearl. She is able to efficiently fight in tandem with Steven, seamlessly combining her offense with his defense. She was even able to pull off complicated sword-based techniques in her battles against Corrupted Fusions without a hitch.)

Weaknesses: None notable

I don't know well Connie does academically, but Brandon is a prodigy. Unfortunately, Connie is the one with classical training as a swordfighter & experienced fighting Gems & such, & used to fighting with a partner & using "complicated sword-based techniques" (Which techniques?) "without a hitch".



So yeah.
Brandon has lots of feats & lots of scans & that's great!
It's just a shame most of them aren't calculated, & they range from stuff like breaking someone's hand to shaking houses to destroying buildings/building complexes, making forest fires & fragmenting planes.

So it's really unclear where in Wall Level he falls; Heck, he could be solidly into Large Building Level, considering his plane feat.

But I don't actually know what we consider most consistent for him, considering his Calc-less "At Least 9-B, likely higher" rating for him.
Even heat vision might be ambiguous because I dunno if Connie has any heat resistance (Especially focused heat since it's heat vision.) feats.

Heck, in theory, they might be close to even. But in practice, it seems like ONE OF THEM should annihilate the other.
I just don't know who.

Is "One of the participants' scaling point is unclear & lacks calculations", a valid reason to vote Inconclusive?
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Bro
 
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