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Connie fights a psychopathic kid (0-0-0)
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This match feels so wrong.
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3,423,483.48983 joules
NONE OF BRANDON'S FEATS HAVE CALCS!
(Except for the Speed Calculation, which is useless here, lol.)
[Screams in frustration]
In theory, this should mean he's baseline.
Baseline Wall Level is 15,000 Joules. Which would make Connie, scaling above a 3,423,483.48983 joules feat, roughly 228.23x stronger.
....But Brandon is mentioned as being able to splatter humans, leaving nothing of them but blood.
Slams Sheriff Deever so hard that he exploded into paste/Killed Sheriff Deever by hitting him while flying at super speeds, splattering his body everywhere. (Dunno which of those links is better, & dunno if it works here because it was done by the Speed of his ramming.)
Killed an female police officer by slamming her up and down through the house, leaving nothing of her left only blood. (Dunno if this is a different feat.)
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By necessity, if Brandon reduced a person's body to nothing but paste, he probably didn't just break, but DESTROYED all their bones as well. So what does that feat yield?
Low End: 1.77078.486850515432e5 Joules, Wall level
Mid End: 3.56902376598e5 Joules, Wall level
High End: 5.83398115592783e5 Joules, Wall level
For those who don't speak Scientific Notation, that's 177,078.486 (Low), 356,902.377 (Mid), or 583,398.116 (High) joules.
Connie's rating is way above that, being about 5.86x higher.
But the calc is for Fragmentation of Bones. I haven't checked the clip, but I assume Brandon at least violently fragmented them, in addition to destroying flesh, so he's likely above the high end.
There's also this:
Lifting Strength: At least Class 5 (Easily lifted a truck), possibly higher with telekinesis (Used this to rip a metal door in half)
'course, whether or not he could Telekinesis Connie is.... Questionable, when considering her rating:
Lifting Strength: Class 50 (Able to physically contend with various Gems throughout the series without being overwhelmed strength-wise, should scale to Seasons 4-5 Steven based on various feats when they fought in tandem)
Dunno how much higher than his physical LS Brandon's TK is, & Connie's LS is only via scaling, but Baseline Class 50 LS begins at 25,000 kg while Class 5 ranges from 1,000 to 5,000 kg, so Connie's scaling puts her LS roughly 5x above Brandon's LS, but it could be a lot closer. (A truck could definitely weigh more than 5,000 kg, for example.)
Brandon also has this:
Destroyed a large building in the credits sequence. (This video was removed, but another link on his profile to 1 second later in the video says building complex, so presumably, it was a building or building complex.)
& this: Killed 268 people by destroying a passenger jet.
Reference for Common Feats says, for destroying a plane:
Total Fragmentation = 1.6246502e10 Joules, or 3.88300717 Tons = Large Building level
We see chunks of the plane still in-tact, & the profile claims a body count of 268 (Presumably there was in-universe body count, maybe from a news report or such?), so it could be even higher. 16,246,502,000 Joules. Compared to Connie scaling to 3,423,483.48983 joules, this would be roughly 4,745.6x stronger than her.
Brandon also has Flight, & Stealth Mastery (For hiding from his uncle Noah in circumstances that I don't know.).
Intelligence?
Intelligence: At least Gifted (He is incredibly knowledgeable about multiple subjects, being above anyone in his school, even though he is just a kid)
Weaknesses: Is weak to the metal of the spaceship he came in. Easily angered and has no remorse or feelings towards humans, viewing himself as superior
Brandon is the more mobile, I dunno when or why he uses Stealth, & he has a superior complex.
Intelligence: High (Due to being personally trained by Pearl, Connie is a highly-skilled fighter and swordsman, capable of holding her own against high-level Holo-Pearls, trained Gem soldiers such as Topaz, and even a possessed Pearl. She is able to efficiently fight in tandem with Steven, seamlessly combining her offense with his defense. She was even able to pull off complicated sword-based techniques in her battles against Corrupted Fusions without a hitch.)
Weaknesses: None notable
I don't know well Connie does academically, but Brandon is a prodigy. Unfortunately, Connie is the one with classical training as a swordfighter & experienced fighting Gems & such, & used to fighting with a partner & using "complicated sword-based techniques" (Which techniques?) "without a hitch".
So yeah.
Brandon has lots of feats & lots of scans & that's great!
It's just a shame most of them aren't calculated, & they range from stuff like breaking someone's hand to shaking houses to destroying buildings/building complexes, making forest fires & fragmenting planes.
So it's really unclear where in Wall Level he falls; Heck, he could be solidly into Large Building Level, considering his plane feat.
But I don't actually know what we consider most consistent for him, considering his Calc-less "At Least 9-B, likely higher" rating for him.
Even heat vision might be ambiguous because I dunno if Connie has any heat resistance (Especially focused heat since it's heat vision.) feats.
Heck, in theory, they might be close to even. But in practice, it seems like ONE OF THEM should annihilate the other.
I just don't know who.
Is "One of the participants' scaling point is unclear & lacks calculations", a valid reason to vote Inconclusive?
Steven Universe: The Feat Connie Scales To
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Powers and Abilities:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight (As shown here), Stealth Mastery (Was capable of hiding from his uncle Noah), Heat Vision (Can blast heat out of his eyes), Technology Manipulation (Can turn off and manipulate technology; causing a car to stop and be unable to start again, light bulbs to flicker and explode, radios and phones to be unable to call, etc), Can hover above the ground for long periods of time. Telekinesis (Ripped open a metal door in half), Limited Fear Manipulation and Animal Manipulation (Caused chickens to go crazy at his presence), Resistance to Diseases (Has never been sick), and possibly Regeneration (Low), Dream Manipulation (Appears in the nightmare of his dad)
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight (As shown here), Stealth Mastery (Was capable of hiding from his uncle Noah), Heat Vision (Can blast heat out of his eyes), Technology Manipulation (Can turn off and manipulate technology; causing a car to stop and be unable to start again, light bulbs to flicker and explode, radios and phones to be unable to call, etc), Can hover above the ground for long periods of time. Telekinesis (Ripped open a metal door in half), Limited Fear Manipulation and Animal Manipulation (Caused chickens to go crazy at his presence), Resistance to Diseases (Has never been sick), and possibly Regeneration (Low), Dream Manipulation (Appears in the nightmare of his dad)
(Tore a metal freezer door open, violently smashed through several walls in his house, Slams Sheriff Deever so hard that he exploded into paste), likely higher (Destroyed an airplane, in the ending credits he destroys a building complex casually and creates a large forest fire. This is likely not his peak strength)
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(Easily lifted a truck)
(Used this to rip a metal door in half)
(Tanked getting shot in the head with a shotgun, a lawn mower blade broke against his arm)
Human level to his ship's metal
Brightburn Speed Feat
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(Used this to rip a metal door in half)
(Tanked getting shot in the head with a shotgun, a lawn mower blade broke against his arm)
Human level to his ship's metal
- Breaks Caitlyn’s hand, with his Super Strength.
- Easily burned through a diner freezer door with his heat vision.
- Killed Noah McNichol, his uncle, by lifting his car into the air, and dropping it.
- Killed Kyle Breyer, his father, by blasting a hole through his head with his heat vision.
- Easily flies through walls and shakes his house to terrorize his mother, Tori.
- Killed Sheriff Deever by hitting him while flying at super speeds, splattering his body everywhere.
- Killed an female police officer by slamming her up and down through the house, leaving nothing of her left only blood.
- Kills his mother Tori by flying with her to the sky’s and let her fall to her death.
- Killed 268 people by destroying a passenger jet.
- Destroyed a large building in the credits sequence.
- He also created a forest fire in the credits.
NONE OF BRANDON'S FEATS HAVE CALCS!
(Except for the Speed Calculation, which is useless here, lol.)
[Screams in frustration]
In theory, this should mean he's baseline.
Baseline Wall Level is 15,000 Joules. Which would make Connie, scaling above a 3,423,483.48983 joules feat, roughly 228.23x stronger.
....But Brandon is mentioned as being able to splatter humans, leaving nothing of them but blood.
Slams Sheriff Deever so hard that he exploded into paste/Killed Sheriff Deever by hitting him while flying at super speeds, splattering his body everywhere. (Dunno which of those links is better, & dunno if it works here because it was done by the Speed of his ramming.)
Killed an female police officer by slamming her up and down through the house, leaving nothing of her left only blood. (Dunno if this is a different feat.)
References for Common Feats
Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...
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Low End: 1.77078.486850515432e5 Joules, Wall level
Mid End: 3.56902376598e5 Joules, Wall level
High End: 5.83398115592783e5 Joules, Wall level
For those who don't speak Scientific Notation, that's 177,078.486 (Low), 356,902.377 (Mid), or 583,398.116 (High) joules.
Connie's rating is way above that, being about 5.86x higher.
But the calc is for Fragmentation of Bones. I haven't checked the clip, but I assume Brandon at least violently fragmented them, in addition to destroying flesh, so he's likely above the high end.
- Killed Kyle Breyer, his father, by blasting a hole through his head with his heat vision.
- Easily burned through a diner freezer door with his heat vision.
There's also this:
Lifting Strength: At least Class 5 (Easily lifted a truck), possibly higher with telekinesis (Used this to rip a metal door in half)
'course, whether or not he could Telekinesis Connie is.... Questionable, when considering her rating:
Lifting Strength: Class 50 (Able to physically contend with various Gems throughout the series without being overwhelmed strength-wise, should scale to Seasons 4-5 Steven based on various feats when they fought in tandem)
Dunno how much higher than his physical LS Brandon's TK is, & Connie's LS is only via scaling, but Baseline Class 50 LS begins at 25,000 kg while Class 5 ranges from 1,000 to 5,000 kg, so Connie's scaling puts her LS roughly 5x above Brandon's LS, but it could be a lot closer. (A truck could definitely weigh more than 5,000 kg, for example.)
Brandon also has this:
Destroyed a large building in the credits sequence. (This video was removed, but another link on his profile to 1 second later in the video says building complex, so presumably, it was a building or building complex.)
& this: Killed 268 people by destroying a passenger jet.
Reference for Common Feats says, for destroying a plane:
Total Fragmentation = 1.6246502e10 Joules, or 3.88300717 Tons = Large Building level
We see chunks of the plane still in-tact, & the profile claims a body count of 268 (Presumably there was in-universe body count, maybe from a news report or such?), so it could be even higher. 16,246,502,000 Joules. Compared to Connie scaling to 3,423,483.48983 joules, this would be roughly 4,745.6x stronger than her.
Brandon also has Flight, & Stealth Mastery (For hiding from his uncle Noah in circumstances that I don't know.).
Intelligence?
Intelligence: At least Gifted (He is incredibly knowledgeable about multiple subjects, being above anyone in his school, even though he is just a kid)
Weaknesses: Is weak to the metal of the spaceship he came in. Easily angered and has no remorse or feelings towards humans, viewing himself as superior
Brandon is the more mobile, I dunno when or why he uses Stealth, & he has a superior complex.
Intelligence: High (Due to being personally trained by Pearl, Connie is a highly-skilled fighter and swordsman, capable of holding her own against high-level Holo-Pearls, trained Gem soldiers such as Topaz, and even a possessed Pearl. She is able to efficiently fight in tandem with Steven, seamlessly combining her offense with his defense. She was even able to pull off complicated sword-based techniques in her battles against Corrupted Fusions without a hitch.)
Weaknesses: None notable
I don't know well Connie does academically, but Brandon is a prodigy. Unfortunately, Connie is the one with classical training as a swordfighter & experienced fighting Gems & such, & used to fighting with a partner & using "complicated sword-based techniques" (Which techniques?) "without a hitch".
So yeah.
Brandon has lots of feats & lots of scans & that's great!
It's just a shame most of them aren't calculated, & they range from stuff like breaking someone's hand to shaking houses to destroying buildings/building complexes, making forest fires & fragmenting planes.
So it's really unclear where in Wall Level he falls; Heck, he could be solidly into Large Building Level, considering his plane feat.
But I don't actually know what we consider most consistent for him, considering his Calc-less "At Least 9-B, likely higher" rating for him.
Even heat vision might be ambiguous because I dunno if Connie has any heat resistance (Especially focused heat since it's heat vision.) feats.
Heck, in theory, they might be close to even. But in practice, it seems like ONE OF THEM should annihilate the other.
I just don't know who.
Is "One of the participants' scaling point is unclear & lacks calculations", a valid reason to vote Inconclusive?
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I don't remember how much time it took, but I think I started analyzing shortly before or while the 2 preceeding comments were made.
Still, happy to help, wasn't that hard. I just hope it proves useful in this deciding this match.
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The thing about the plane feat is that we don't see how he actually destroyed it. As an off-screen feat, it should be unquantifiable.
His Telekinesis should be able to lift Connie from the ground but he would be unable to take Rose's Sword away from her. From this point, he can try two things:
1. Fly towards Connie to punch her, which would be a bad idea given that she still has the Sword and knows how to use it.
2. Spam Heat Vision at her, but Connie can protect herself with the Sword since it has 6-C (Island level) durability and Resistance to Heat.
However, this are still valid wincons for Brandon. The problem is if he does that in character. If he goes to close range he will get wrecked by Connie's skill.
His Telekinesis should be able to lift Connie from the ground but he would be unable to take Rose's Sword away from her. From this point, he can try two things:
1. Fly towards Connie to punch her, which would be a bad idea given that she still has the Sword and knows how to use it.
2. Spam Heat Vision at her, but Connie can protect herself with the Sword since it has 6-C (Island level) durability and Resistance to Heat.
However, this are still valid wincons for Brandon. The problem is if he does that in character. If he goes to close range he will get wrecked by Connie's skill.
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Looking through the links, I couldn't find footage of the building destroying feat. How did you find out it was off-screen?
Some might argue sufficient LS is enough to resist Telekinesis, though I'm unsure Connie has any feats of doing that. (& also Brandon may have higher LS, depending on the truck's mass, & possibly also the strength of the throw he did.)
Also, it doesn't help here, but looking at this Easily lifted a truck, I'm confused; That WASN'T telekinesis?
It has Resistance to Heat? Basis?
Looking at the profile, it says: Resistance to fire, ice, and electricity
But these have no justification.
No idea what his in-character moves are, but I'd assume he usually goes to close range; Based only on reading his feats' descriptions, I would assume he seems to like terrorizing & being sadistic.
Also, with no calc, he should be baseline, but he has wall-busting feats, too, so I have no clue how his & Connie's stats match up. She has more skills (Though Brandon is supposedly academically accomplished & capable of stealth.), but it might not matter depending on the yield(s) for the Brightburn calculation(s).
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I might be misremembering completely, but iirc, Rose/Connie's sword's heat resistance comes from withstanding Light Warrior's attacks
Connie's Class 50 is from scaling to Season 3 Steven, who's 32,412 Kg, considering a 14 wheeler (Which is far larger/heavier than the truck Brandon lifted) is barely higher than that, I very much doubt that truck's weight be higher than Connie's LS
Also, I doubt Brandon having an AP advantage would help too much, considering Connie constantly fights/trains with 7-As (Who, y'know, one-shot her a few million times over)
Connie's Class 50 is from scaling to Season 3 Steven, who's 32,412 Kg, considering a 14 wheeler (Which is far larger/heavier than the truck Brandon lifted) is barely higher than that, I very much doubt that truck's weight be higher than Connie's LS
Also, I doubt Brandon having an AP advantage would help too much, considering Connie constantly fights/trains with 7-As (Who, y'know, one-shot her a few million times over)
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Said 7-As probably hold back as to not kill commie.
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Doesn't she also usually block their attacks with her sword? She IS rated Wall Level in Durability, but Island Level with Rose's Sword.
(Also, she has swords other than Rose's.)
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I don't know, I don't watch SU.
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Well, I congratulate you because I think you chose the bestIt was that or using this one
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As I am not very knowledge of brightburn. I am not sure because its depending what he will do. In the case he charge towards connie, i will give it to connie because of the sword's durability and connie's skills. But as I say I don't know much about brightburn.
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And please don't double post, you can quote multiple messages at once here
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Though knowing Steven Universe shooting lasers and flying is like the standard and Commie should dodge easily
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Also, Connie isn't a "somewhat good" martial artist, she was trained by a Gem with thousand of years of fighting experience and she can actually keep up with said Gem (Pearl specifically). Connie also has a sword with 6-C durability that can also one-shot Brandon. So... not a stomp by any means.
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No it isn't. You need to make a CRT for that(not to mention speed equal) and I doubt his heat vision fits The light standards
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?? How is a bloodlusted pearl mindhaxed by White Diamong holding back?
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Aight, Pearl wasnt holding back, and Connie now have 7-A Attack Potency with swords due my CRT
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Kind of is, they are reduced by the amount combat speed is.
You'd need to make a CRT and gather reliable feats to dispell the "downplay"
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He doesn't need to know a verse to say that you need to make a CRT if u want to have changes in the profiles
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It doesn't matter if I've seen the movie or not, you need to prove that his laser vision is actually light speed by our strict as **** standards for it. From what I've seen the lasers don't even meet a single criteria.
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If your not going to make one then one message for you: shut it. That means you actually have nothing but wank backing you if you can't make one.
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Those kinds of insults aren't tolerated here, and if you can make a CRT and prove me wrong, I'd ******* accept it. I've done so in the past.
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I don't think that this kind of stuff is allowed in the wiki
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Yeah, Comicvine is quite a lot... different then Vsbattles wikiTbh, my line of thinking on characters fight is still in the Facebook groups and comicvine people lol. I might need an update although, i tried but i got this:
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As far as I can tell, as it stands Connie AP stomps, but Brightburn has the potential to be a decent matchup for her if he gets a proper CRT.
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