Concerning Frost Tier from Universe 6

[Alexcar3000]

Well, if your argument is more that Goku is currently on a similar scale of power in both his SSJ and SSG forms then that is a very different thing from claiming that he has powered up several millions of trillions of times since fighting Beerus.
What do the rest of the staff members think? Should we consider Goku as Multi-Galaxy level even in regular SSJ form?

Yeah, they implied that he is on a similar scale of power through all of his forms as he absorbed the SSG powers and made it his own, and as others have said, all of his recent training made him possibly stronger than what he was in the BoG arc.

 

[Busti]

Time and the next episodes will tell I guess :3

 

[Victor2]

Current SSB>SS1>Base>Limits surrpassed base goku>SS1>SSG. in order so it`s pretty much safe that even SS1 goku would be least 3-B, hell iirc even OBD consideres Base goku 3-B atleast

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Current SSB>SS1>Base>Limits surrpassed base goku>SS1>SSG. in order so it`s pretty much safe that even SS1 goku would be least 3-B, hell iirc even OBD consideres Base goku 3-B atleast

I checked and they don't actually that would be like updating all of Narutos stats from base to multi continental for six paths power wacky scaling..

 

[LordAizenSama]

@Victor Well I always assumed his base form absorbed godly ki, and that it was the same level of power as the original red super saiyan god form, But SuperSaiyan Blue is the Super Saiyan ki with Godly Ki, right? so if it's blonde does it mean hes not using god ki? because that Godly Ki was what made him Multi-Galaxy in the first place. but it doesn't make any sense for god ki to be switched off and on like that it ..

If you can understand where i'm coming from, you're doing pretty good. DBS has made its SSJ powers even more confusing.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Btw Goku in SSGSS is probably several times stronger than SSG I'm not suggesting a baseless 3-A tier but "potentially higher" could be added given the circumstances?

 

[Alexcar3000]

Current SSB>SS1>Base>Limits surrpassed base goku>SS1>SSG. in order so it`s pretty much safe that even SS1 goku would be least 3-B, hell iirc even OBD consideres Base goku 3-B atleast

I checked and they don't actually that would be like updating all of Narutos stats from base to multi continental for six paths power wacky scaling..

Nope, checked this and he is at least 3-B in his current base and SSJ and SSG... but that's another wiki so it doesn't matter. For me it's like this: SSB (U6 arc) > SSJ (U6 arc) > New Base (SBG) (U6 arc) <= SSB (RoF arc) > New Base (SBG) (RoF arc) > SSJ-post God (BoG arc) > SSG >>>>>>>>>>>>> (...) >>> Base (pre-God). *dat power-scaling*

He absorbed the SSG powers when fighting Beerus and was giving a better fight as a SSJ post-God (BoG arc) than he did as a SSG, then his training with Whis (RoF arc) + a new transformation (RoF arc) + 3 years in the RoSaT (U6 arc). So "at least 3-B" seems the right Tier IMO. When we have more statements/feats about his current state of power, then and only the we could add "at least 3-B, likely/possibly 3-A".

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Battle of gods was rectconned ages ago...

 

[Antvasima]

Well, all of this seems very uncertain and speculative. We need something concrete to go by before we set definitive tiers to any characters. Sorry.

 

[Alexcar3000]

Well, all of this seems very uncertain and speculative. We need something concrete to go by before we set definitive tiers to any characters. Sorry.

I agree, we should wait at least a couple episodes more, we still don't know why Goku transformed into SSJ instead of SSB.

 

[Victor2]

when goku turned back to regular SS1 he was at the same level he was when he had SSG form up (refer to Goku`s statement and beerus`s) later in episode 14 it`s implied his base/SS1 surrpassed that level of power however goku lerned to controll his Ki and switch between god ki and regular Ki. SSG is like any other forms it powers varies on the battle power of the saiyan (refer to toriyama`s interview).

 

[Mister_Death]

Base goku should probably be atleast Galaxy level and scale frost from there


but we need moar proofs

 

[Victor2]

so imho anybody whos a match for current base goku should be 3-B in the least since his base is superior to his SS1 after absorbing God Ki and made it equel to his SSG form

 

[LordAizenSama]

I also agree with Ant.

 

[Victor2]

but then again, it`s best if we wait till the tournament-arc is over

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Just... leave Frost in Unknown...

 

[AidenBrooks999]

And base Goku is obviously not Star Level

He is FAR away from that

 

[Antvasima]

Well, since this is going nowhere, I am closing this thread now.