Composite Sonic vs Composite Flash

[Huesito88]

Also saitamax how would all that count as velocity manipulation?

 

[Tonie_M._Movies_Productions]

even if you believe Flash is faster, there's no way to prove because Sonic's top speed is currently ranked as "Unknown". (and there are other characters in archie who are immeasurable like Ennerjak and Shadow)

Speedforce isn't "reality itself" it's a very small portion of "the source". THAT's reality itself. and that's what the Chaos force is in sonicverse. speed stealing would not work on Sonic due to our verse equalization rules forcing the equalization of the chaos force and the source.

Sonic has absurdly higher degree of control over the chaos force than Flash could ever hope to have of the source. Sonic can manipulate reality, restore entire universes, etc So flash would be trying to speedsteal from someone who has a much higher mastery over the speedforce than he himself.

1. Im using composite Flash.

2.here

 

[Saitamax]

@Saitamax. I agree that the dude is...misinformed to say the least, but no. There's no way verse equalization works in a way that Sonic not only has access to the speedforce, but mastery of it.

but verse equalization flat out states we have to equalize energy sources of similar description. chakra = ki = reiatsu, etc


the chaos force is literaly the exact same thing as the source. even their wikipedia descriptions are almost the same >_>

 

[Tonie_M._Movies_Productions]

@Saitamax. I agree that the dude is...misinformed to say the least, but no. There's no way verse equalization works in a way that Sonic not only has access to the speedforce, but mastery of it.

How would Sonic have mastery of the speedforce??

 

[Tonie_M._Movies_Productions]

Actually, you know what, I don't care who wins anymore. In these things, people give opinions. But, im just gonna say that Flash speedblitzes with proof to back myself up. Sadly, my revision thread is closed...

 

[Tonie_M._Movies_Productions]

Also, isn't Archie Sonic discontinued??

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah, he'd still stomp

He can't hurt something that's multiversal, eventually Sonic stops time

 

[Schnee_One]

Also, Flash is still slower then Amitabha (Touhou Project)

 

[Tonie_M._Movies_Productions]

Yeah, he'd still stomp
He can't hurt something that's multiversal, eventually Sonic stops time

Proof or wank?

 

[Tonie_M._Movies_Productions]

Also, Flash is still slower then Amitabha (Touhou Project)

UUhhhh.....no.....

 

[Schnee_One]

A 4B can't hurt a 2B. It's not wank, it's common sense

Also, still slower then who I just mentioned

 

[Tonie_M._Movies_Productions]

1. Not unless that "4B" is fast enough to hit with a force that would one-shot that 2B

2. Again, Flash has infinite speed.

 

[Saitamax]

here's the possible ways to interpret this

1) we equalize the source and the chaos force. at this point Flash can no longer affect Sonic because Sonic has greater mastery over the universe's governing energy than flash does.

2)we don't equalize them. in this case we have to treat speed stealing as generic kinetic manipulation. in which case its countered by chaos control.


either way it doesn't really work see..

 

[Huesito88]

Even if the flash had infinite speed and his striking strength increased by infinite because of his speed. He would still be high 3-A which is infinitely below 2-B

 

[Schnee_One]

1. Despite breaking his fists on 3As

2. Based on contradicted headcanon- I mean "evidence"

 

[Golden_Void]

Flash speed steals and solos the verse

 

[Saitamax]

1. Not unless that "4B" is fast enough to hit with a force that would one-shot that 2B
2. Again, Flash has infinite speed.

i don't think you understand how tiering works dude


if Flash could hit with enough force to one shot a 2B, he would be tiered in 2B himself. he can only generate enough power to destroy stars. that's why he's ranked in star level.


Flash isn't accepted as having infinite speed here. so arguing that is pointless. you'd havce to make a revision topic and get the admins to agree with you

 

[Huesito88]

He already did but thanks to lots of hostility it got closed

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I mean, Flash does win via speedsteal, but there's too much wank about everything else for me to want to say that.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes, now please for the love of God close this

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

>4-B one-shots 2-B via being faster

HAHAHAHA no...while flash bypass dura via intagibility it doesn't work on much MUCH higher and stronger characters 2-B is multiversal and a 4-B no matter how fast won't exactly damage a 2-B character or even low 2-C

 

[Bluetrekking]

Sonic stomps for reasons above.

 

[Huesito88]

What 0_0