Udlmaster
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>But it affects everyone and everything. Immortals, Mortals, Demons, Devils, Outsiders, etc cannot pierce the barrier. The only thing allowed through it are ascended Immortals and things the Old Ones allow
To quote Bambu: "It is clearly mentioned. Outside Mystara? No such thing."
And we've been shown multiple times that the LoP isn't anything Normal like the Gods or Immortals.
Even if we assume when she takes on her True form that she only affects below the Dimensional Vortex, then she's still destroyed multiple 5-D planes of exist as noted in said book that they exist.
> She just said the multiverse. The multiverse in this context could easily just be the 4-Dimensional construct rather than a High 1-B thing.
Actually, again Assuming below the Dimensional Vortex, it's 5-D.
5-D planes of Existence.
Additionally even below the Dimensional Vortex there are potentially some Higher Dimensions.
Also, To Affect ALL creation you need to affect ALL creation. Stop walking around the issue of It clearly says All Creation, no matter what way you slice it, Mystara and it's Higher Dimensions are apart of Creation.
>They are, but the core D&D world is a seperate multiverse from the Mystara one. Both exist on the 4th Dimension but you can't travel from one to the other without using special stuff.
You mean like Sigil? A City disconnected from Reality and is also stated to be able to reach anywhere? Apparently even the Far Realm can be accessed through Sigil if you're unlucky enough to get the wrong portal.
>She repaired the damage Vecna did to the multiverse, which would only be a 2-A thing. She also did that in his restricted state, not her true form and needed to be in the Sigil itself to even accomplish such a thing.
See above, already disproved it's 4-D. As for her Restricted State, yeah, she did it in her restricted state, but she also cast a Spell for the first and last time. It changed the entire verse beyond measure.
And the center of Sigil part was highly likely to be range and not need for Power. Also already proved that 5-D planes exist anyway.
To quote Bambu: "It is clearly mentioned. Outside Mystara? No such thing."
And we've been shown multiple times that the LoP isn't anything Normal like the Gods or Immortals.
Even if we assume when she takes on her True form that she only affects below the Dimensional Vortex, then she's still destroyed multiple 5-D planes of exist as noted in said book that they exist.
> She just said the multiverse. The multiverse in this context could easily just be the 4-Dimensional construct rather than a High 1-B thing.
Actually, again Assuming below the Dimensional Vortex, it's 5-D.
5-D planes of Existence.
Additionally even below the Dimensional Vortex there are potentially some Higher Dimensions.
Also, To Affect ALL creation you need to affect ALL creation. Stop walking around the issue of It clearly says All Creation, no matter what way you slice it, Mystara and it's Higher Dimensions are apart of Creation.
>They are, but the core D&D world is a seperate multiverse from the Mystara one. Both exist on the 4th Dimension but you can't travel from one to the other without using special stuff.
You mean like Sigil? A City disconnected from Reality and is also stated to be able to reach anywhere? Apparently even the Far Realm can be accessed through Sigil if you're unlucky enough to get the wrong portal.
>She repaired the damage Vecna did to the multiverse, which would only be a 2-A thing. She also did that in his restricted state, not her true form and needed to be in the Sigil itself to even accomplish such a thing.
See above, already disproved it's 4-D. As for her Restricted State, yeah, she did it in her restricted state, but she also cast a Spell for the first and last time. It changed the entire verse beyond measure.
And the center of Sigil part was highly likely to be range and not need for Power. Also already proved that 5-D planes exist anyway.
