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Being bigger than the current 2-A structure, as 2-A is proof of low 1-C bro?
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Chronos (Chrono Clock) Low 1-C downgrade
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The last link does not work.
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you should remove the "bigger than 2-A" parts and put this explanation instead
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Yap, so add this in OP thread
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Ya this is important otherwise this is literally the definition of low 1-C
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Done
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If the perception stuff isn't about her perceiving infinite timelines as small, her justification would need to be rewritten.
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Specifying that each of the Timelines is too small for her, making her comparable in size to the multiverse should do the job.
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BTW, if I have not properly clarified it above, "World" is not a 2-A structure.
To elaborate, Cro/Chronos states in the scan that "to communicate with this World/such as Tiny world as that of you humans" ergo singular "World" which is then explained by her own self as "the limits of the Universe which humans are capable of observing" which is just a 3-A structure. In addition, there is also the plural "Worlds" as mentioned here where "there are other worlds where time flowed freely" aka Timelines or Low 2-C structures, and as per my scans above, there are Infinite Worlds.
Therefore,
which is mainly due to the fact that she is all alone and isolated in the realm). Even if we state that World here refers to a single Low 2-C structure, it would not make her something qualitatively superior as she could perceive worlds with their own flow of time through peepholes, ergo not at all Bigger than 2-A.
To elaborate, Cro/Chronos states in the scan that "to communicate with this World/such as Tiny world as that of you humans" ergo singular "World" which is then explained by her own self as "the limits of the Universe which humans are capable of observing" which is just a 3-A structure. In addition, there is also the plural "Worlds" as mentioned here where "there are other worlds where time flowed freely" aka Timelines or Low 2-C structures, and as per my scans above, there are Infinite Worlds.
Therefore,
- World = 3-A structure.
- Timeline/World with Flow of Time = Low 2-C structure.
- Worlds = 2-A structure.
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Lmfao, tbh I was confused and could not decide to disagree or agree, now that you have explained it perfectly. Yap, add this to the OP thread, and then it is not any more controversial.
Also nice work tho! This summed up
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Agree with the downgrade FRA.
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This is okay with me.
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No unless you can elaborate it well. The mere difference between 2-A and infinite baseline Low 2-C resides on the space defined as a 5-dimensional block between universes that have unquantifiable amount of distance, for the former. Which means, if you're only taking the 4D measurements an infinite amount of universes would have the same magnitude of size as one infinite universe (because infinite times with something is still infinite anyway). It doesn't make the 4D spacetimes bigger at all. Which means again, by applying the same logic somethings which go beyond High 3-A and infinite baseline Low 2-C will become 4D and 5D respectively, because there is no such thing as a size corresponding to a larger infinite that cannot be defined without higher dimensions with the current standards.
Which is a terrible idea. That's why I said the standard should be revised and can only be implemented on a case by case basis (like the verse treated is as so), or either it's getting abused. That's what I know at least.
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Till you create CRT and revise the standards, we go by these standards. Don't stonewall, if you don't mind.
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Never said to any of you to stop following the current standards. Learn to read and not strawmanning. That's usually the thing people said when they are unable to argue against at all lol.
All I did was blowing my mind out.
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What was the point then if you did not mean to stop us following the current standards? Like seriously, what was the point of your comment if this was not your intention. Drop the topic
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By telling that I disagree with the standards? Who are you to restrict me from doing so. You're literally no one, know your place.
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You can derail somewhere else if you disagree with standards, or create staff thread. Stop derailing and drop the topic.
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Go vent on a staff thread if the standards hurt your feelings that much
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It's either me derailling the topic or your reading comprehension ability is just lacking. If you know the context, you will understand that my comment was still correlated with the arguments of sen_ and StrymULTRA above, regarding the 2-A standards in the Tiering System FAQ.
If you're too afraid about the standards change when all I did was releasing my thought here, then I guess you're the one who got hurt by the comment of mine.
If you're too afraid about the standards change when all I did was releasing my thought here, then I guess you're the one who got hurt by the comment of mine.
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ohh very nice explanation.
Question. Do you play Censored one or the Uncensored one ? Because i believe there will be some context missing.
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I played uncensored.
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so is it same or something missing ?
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well yeah, because steam ver is definitely censored ver....
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I'll cook up a justification soon
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Thanks. I played the uncensored one where all the girls get pumped by MC raw no lube with no censor whatsoever.
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Off the top of my head one of Cro's abilities is mentioned like during or straight after an H scene.
It was some sort of time manipulation or something.
It was some sort of time manipulation or something.
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Man of culture i see.
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My memory is foggy, and this is made worse due to the fact i lost all the scans i had for the visual novels i read, but didn't Cro merge several timelines into 1?
And that's how the Cro route came about, all the heroines had memories of what happen in their timeline, but again could be misremembering how that whole sequence of events came about.
And that's how the Cro route came about, all the heroines had memories of what happen in their timeline, but again could be misremembering how that whole sequence of events came about.
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I stand corrected, i do have scans saved, and it wasn't from the Cro route, but Miu route, but i don't rememebr the context behind it
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Oops. I would like to help with the context but I haven't played Miu's route (only all the others), just forgot that she existed..I stand corrected, i do have scans saved, and it wasn't from the Cro route, but Miu route, but i don't rememebr the context behind it
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I'm misremembering too and I did a quick check here and it's something something Quantum Superposition based on the Observer aka MC whose observation collapsed all timelines into one.
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So the Cro Route leads into the Miu route essentially.
Based on this, MC got with a "girlfriend" and caused Chronos to appear to kill him, Cro sends him back in time to save him, which the only way to do that is to send him to before he got a girlfriend, and as a result, the world is in a state of quantum superposition, where everyone's possibilities are existing at once.
This is also were the infinitely long branch statement about space-time comes from, that if you can back in time and change the future, space-time must be infinitely long.
At the end of the Cro route, it's again stated this all happened cause Cro tried to save Rei, every time Chronos attempted to reconnect with Cro, Cro uses Chronos power to save Rei, creating an infinite loop, which apparently results in separate timelines, the Rei we follow only experienced meeting Chronos 2x, but this same thing is implied to have happened a lot.
Then with the Miu route, it pretty much confirms Miu was the girlfriend all along, it's the starting point, and Rei ends up back at that point in time? Don't really think i am getting everything there, as idk what would lead to Chronos initially needing to kill Rei, she wanted to kill Rei because Cro was saving him, essentially putting her in an infinite time loop
Based on this, MC got with a "girlfriend" and caused Chronos to appear to kill him, Cro sends him back in time to save him, which the only way to do that is to send him to before he got a girlfriend, and as a result, the world is in a state of quantum superposition, where everyone's possibilities are existing at once.
This is also were the infinitely long branch statement about space-time comes from, that if you can back in time and change the future, space-time must be infinitely long.
At the end of the Cro route, it's again stated this all happened cause Cro tried to save Rei, every time Chronos attempted to reconnect with Cro, Cro uses Chronos power to save Rei, creating an infinite loop, which apparently results in separate timelines, the Rei we follow only experienced meeting Chronos 2x, but this same thing is implied to have happened a lot.
Then with the Miu route, it pretty much confirms Miu was the girlfriend all along, it's the starting point, and Rei ends up back at that point in time? Don't really think i am getting everything there, as idk what would lead to Chronos initially needing to kill Rei, she wanted to kill Rei because Cro was saving him, essentially putting her in an infinite time loop
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Another thing, wouldn't Chronos exists across all timelines?
When Rei mentions that it has been a month since they last met, Chronos says relative time is meaningless, though she is there before him, she is also everywhere as well.
You could says she just exist everywhere within a single timeline, but from what i posted above about Cro creating timelines due to saving Rei, Chronos shows up, and it's an infinite loop of Chronos reconnecting with Cro, Cro saving Rei and a new timeline is made, where Chronos is also there.
There is also the whole bit about how to a God the past, present and future aren't connected, time expands infinitely in every direction and every moment in time exists simultaneously. So from what i got when Rei rewinds time he isn't going back 5 minutes into the past, as that would give the same results, but he is hopping to a parallel universe.
So every moment in time is its own parallel universe is my understanding, so necessarily if Chronos exists everywhere across time, she would exist everywhere across the multiverse
When Rei mentions that it has been a month since they last met, Chronos says relative time is meaningless, though she is there before him, she is also everywhere as well.
You could says she just exist everywhere within a single timeline, but from what i posted above about Cro creating timelines due to saving Rei, Chronos shows up, and it's an infinite loop of Chronos reconnecting with Cro, Cro saving Rei and a new timeline is made, where Chronos is also there.
There is also the whole bit about how to a God the past, present and future aren't connected, time expands infinitely in every direction and every moment in time exists simultaneously. So from what i got when Rei rewinds time he isn't going back 5 minutes into the past, as that would give the same results, but he is hopping to a parallel universe.
So every moment in time is its own parallel universe is my understanding, so necessarily if Chronos exists everywhere across time, she would exist everywhere across the multiverse
